Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Katadyn vs Platypus Gravity
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IndyCanoe |
Just as a gravity filter that you could use right out of the box without any other add-ons, I would probably go with the platypus system. One thing the platypus system gets right is the dirty bag has the large opening for easy fill. The 42mm opening on the BeFree is not the easiest to fill from the lake for the larger water bladders. It requires pouring water into the water bladder with something else to fill it to capacity. We carry a cut off water bottle but i have also used a use a pot. Purchasing the aftermarket CNOC water badder has solved that problem for me this year but it is an additional cost. Same issue we had with the Sawyer system as it has the same size tread size as the wide mouth nalgene bottles. All that said we have switched over exclusive to the BeFree when its just 2 of us. The BeFree filter is awesome with a VERY fast flow rate. I originally purchased it with the small 0.6L for day use in the kayak or canoe around home not really thinking of BWCA trips but that has changed. I like it because I have so many options with items I already had and a few we purchased since. I have since added a 2L hydrapak bag and a 2L CNOC bag so I can use it as a gravity filter. Hydrapak and CNOC also have larger sizes if you need them. The thread size on the output side of the BeFree match those of the sawyer squeeze allowing you to easily add different connections to fit any need. The BeFree is very versatile with a few accessories. The biggest reason we use it exclusively now is that it easily be used on the move during the day and not just as a gravity filter. I still use the .6L bag fill it from the side of the canoe and drink away. At portages a take a drink, empty the water, collapse it down and store it in my life jacket pocket. At camp use the larger water bladders and the same filter for a gravity system. Flow rate is so fast you can drink directly from the filter or pour directly into another water bottle. |
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mirth |
Durza: "I have the "Katadyn Gravity Camp 6L Water Filter" and it's decent but you have to pair the filter with a coffee filter and rubber band specifically in the BWCA or it will get clogged. Didn't believe the reviews the first year. By end of trip the water was a trickle/nothing. Called customer service, they sent a new filter and recommended the coffee filter trick in BWCA. 2nd year no issues. Yeah, this filter setup has been widely discussed here before. It's not the same tech as Sawyer or Platypus - uses a pleated paper & fabric filtration medium which is not field serviceable or backflushing has limited effectiveness on it. The newer filters with hollow membrane media is almost like having modern plumbing in the wilderness. There are several threads where people have discussed converting their Katadyn 6L setups by sawing off most of the OEM filter and inserting a Platy or Sawyer filter inline down the tube. |
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Zanzinger |
butthead: "eyepaddle: "I’m planning on upgrading to a gravity filter system. Lots of info on here about the Katadyn BeFree 3L and the Platypus 4L....but I’m wondering if anyone has compared the two. Which one would you buy? Any others I should be looking at? " This is what I've done. MSR Dromedary bag with a sawyer filter and some tubing and you have yourself a great gravity filter for a fraction of the price. https://www.rei.com/product/114829/msr-dromedary-bag-4-liters |
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mgraber |
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Grandma L |
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Itchymenace |
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Atom |
Durza: "I have the "Katadyn Gravity Camp 6L Water Filter" and it's decent but you have to pair the filter with a coffee filter and rubber band specifically in the BWCA or it will get clogged. Didn't believe the reviews the first year. By end of trip the water was a trickle/nothing. Called customer service, they sent a new filter and recommended the coffee filter trick in BWCA. 2nd year no issues. I just picked up this filter. Could you explain a little bit more about this filter method? Where does the coffee filter go in relation to everything else? |
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Durza |
Atom: "Durza: "I have the "Katadyn Gravity Camp 6L Water Filter" and it's decent but you have to pair the filter with a coffee filter and rubber band specifically in the BWCA or it will get clogged. Didn't believe the reviews the first year. By end of trip the water was a trickle/nothing. Called customer service, they sent a new filter and recommended the coffee filter trick in BWCA. 2nd year no issues. The idea is to pre-filter the water to keep whatever is clogging the Katadyn filter from getting in. So you take one of those bowl shaped coffee filters (not the cone ones) and just rubber band it around the Katadyn filter. I can't say I know it works forever since I only have 2 trips worth of testing. Hopefully it's fine this year though. |
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eyepaddle |
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butthead |
eyepaddle: "I’m planning on upgrading to a gravity filter system. Lots of info on here about the Katadyn BeFree 3L and the Platypus 4L....but I’m wondering if anyone has compared the two. Which one would you buy? Any others I should be looking at? " Kind of limited choices,. What about Sawyer, MSR, Lifestraw, home built from mix and match parts? They're all dirty and clean bags a filter and tubing. You could buy a no-name system and a Sawyer Squeeze Filter and have a good system with long life under well $100. butthead |
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unshavenman |
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scotttimm |
Durza: "Atom: "Durza: "I have the "Katadyn Gravity Camp 6L Water Filter" and it's decent but you have to pair the filter with a coffee filter and rubber band specifically in the BWCA or it will get clogged. Didn't believe the reviews the first year. By end of trip the water was a trickle/nothing. Called customer service, they sent a new filter and recommended the coffee filter trick in BWCA. 2nd year no issues. I used the basecamp for a few years before I finally threw up my hands in disgust. I'd throw a sawyer squeeze or mini in your pack just in case, they are super cheap. As mentioned, I cut out the useless filter inside the basecamp bag (so the nozzle/tube still fit on, you cannot just remove the filter), then added the sawyer further downline in the tube leading from the bag - the further the better. Works like a charm, and you can backflush it. If you bring a saw along on your trips, you could probably even perform this surgery in the bush - just make sure you have the ends that fit on rubber tubing (maybe the mini has that, and not the squeeze, not sure). Here's one of the numerous threads: Base camp mods |
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butthead |
Mini fits inline to hose each end. Squeeze and All In One can be fitted with Sawyer Inline Hydration Adapter ends. butthead |
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butthead |
butthead PS: Maybe I should edit my my 2 bags to "a combination of clean filtered storage and potentially contaminated source storage to be treated". bh |
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Durza |
butthead: Good point. I do usually run a few liters on the ground just in case the trees are having a hard time. Then I put my nalgene under my first bag instead of a second bag because its important to be efficient. =p Joking aside I will point out that according to testing the Katadyn systems are almost always twice as fast to fill a nalgene as a other systems. The actual difference in time is pretty negligible though. 42 seconds for Katadyn basecamp vs 80ish for Platypus. 47 seconds for a Katadyn BeFree vs 93 for a sawyer Micro. |
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Durza |
To be fair I specifically went with the Katadyn system because there's no 2nd bag which I feel is unnecessary. Filters are good enough now where you shouldn't need to wait the 2 minutes for the water to be filtered and then need to store that somewhere. |
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Durza |
scotttimm: I have a Steripen as a backup if needed. If the basecamp fails this year, even with the coffee filter, I'll do a bit more research then. Although it seems like the BeFree system might not have the same problems the basecamp does, so that might just be a seamless upgrade. |
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butthead |
Durza: " OK then you either run the water on the ground or into some other container than a bag. Nothing that other gravity systems can't do. Similar flow rates apply to MSR and Platypus. Not knocking Katadyn just nothing special ther in the field of water treatment. butthead |
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mirth |
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Durza |
If going with Katadyn I would ask customer service / DYOR on if the BeFree has fixed the BWCA water issue. |