Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Hammock suggestions
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MidwestFirecraft |
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butthead |
Dutchware Gear Chameleon for the design and options. Superior Hammock for the integrated underquilt. Will see in the coming year. butthead |
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Me2012 |
OCDave: "My preferences trend toward lighter hammocks so, I have never used an Amok hammock but, you might find this style interesting." I slept in an Amok for a week in the BWCA last summer. That was enough for me. I’ll be bringing my Hennessey up next year again. |
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moray |
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Pilgrimpaddler |
Me2012: "OCDave: "My preferences trend toward lighter hammocks so, I have never used an Amok hammock but, you might find this style interesting." What was it that you didn't like about the Amok? I've been considering getting one or a bridge hammock (side-sleeper here) and can't make a decision. I have zero hammock experience so I've even been thinking about a traditional gathered end, but I'm hoping to avoid having to get an entirely new sleep set-up; at least with the Amok I can still use my Exped Downmat. |
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user0317 |
butthead: "I don't use a hammock yet, but my knees went the way of arthritis this summer, now I have to be very careful crawling into a tent. Been seriously looking for the past few years and have 2 that interest me, My wife and I both use a Dutchware Chameleon, and it works great for us. One of us uses the 'bugnet cover' and the other uses the 'top cover'. |
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butthead |
Thanks! butthead |
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sns |
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MidwestFirecraft |
sns: "Another Warbonnet Ridgerunner user here. Like it a lot - flat lay is great. I have been using either a wide thermarest xtherm or xlite in it with good success, though I have been considering a Lynx underquilt." Just picked up a 0 degree Lynx, very happy with it. |
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GickFirk22 |
butthead: "I don't use a hammock yet, but my knees went the way of arthritis this summer, now I have to be very careful crawling into a tent. Been seriously looking for the past few years and have 2 that interest me, I'm running a Dutchware Chameleon as well. I did the double layer 1.6 hex outside and 1.0 hex inside... integrated bugnet too. I. Love. This. Thing. I have a 30 degree underquilt from HammockGear and will definitely be getting a 0 Degree winter underquilt. For the summer, I'm able to slip a thermarest inbetween the 2 layers of the hammock in order to prevent some thermal loss. I'm mostly a side sleeper and have never had a bad night's sleep in my Chameleon. Butthead, if you're in the Twin Cities and ever want to mess with one before purchasing, reach out and we can meet up. |
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coffeetalk |
Nemo also makes insulated versions of the Tensor that I have not tried but might allow you to skip the underquilt in cooler weather. As a partial-fetal-side-sleeper my knees and butt are often up against the uninsulated sides of the hammock but a top quilt keeps them plenty warm. The only issue I've had with the pad is there seems to be an air gap at the feet due to the cut of the double layer sleeve. Cold feet are my achilles heel (so to speak) so on colder nights I will hang the underquilt. I have not tried just putting the pad right in the hammock. That would fix the air gap but I don't know if it would stay put and I don't want to raise my center of gravity unnecessarily (see below). Drawbacks of the bridge hammock over the gathered-end style include: The added weight of the spreader bars. Worth it for a good night's sleep. The increased minimum distance between trees needed. I can't remember the numbers but for me and my paddle I know it's about 3 1/2 paddle lengths, more than I can get away with in a gathered-end but not a lot more. Still it can make the difference between a scenic, breezy, waterfront hang and a buggy swamp hang of last resort. I've moved on from otherwise good campsites a few times over almost-but-not-quite hammock options. Worth it for a good night's sleep. It can be a bit more tippy, especially with the Tensor pad which is stiff when fully inflated and will raise center of gravity. It's not a problem at all if you just use an underquilt, and can be mitigated with under-inflation if you use an inflatable pad. I grew up sleeping in a homemade top bunk without safety rails so I'm pretty well trained to sleep with caution. I have never tipped over and I only got the heart racing once when I was awake and trying to reach something unreachable on the ground. If you're worried just pitch it closer to the ground or put packs, pine boughs, dogs, children, etc. under you. Worth it for a good night's sleep. You'll need a wider tarp so you don't swing up and punch a hole in it with your spreader bars. Warbonnet's Cloudburst is made for it. I use the Thunderfly with pole tie-outs because I like the peace of mind of having doors available in extreme weather and I love what the pole tie-outs do for interior space. I don't bring a kitchen tarp on solo trips because with the 13' Thunderfly there's room to spare for setting up a chair, cooking and sprawling out gear even with the hammock right there. |
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OldTripper |
OCDave: "My preferences trend toward lighter hammocks so, I have never used an Amok hammock but, you might find this style interesting." My nephew has this Amok hammock, along with the tarp on top, an air mattress and quilt. He loves it. I spent one night in it and have to admit it was an awesome nights sleep. We both like the "lay flat" design. The only drawback is by the time you get the entire package it can get a little pricey. If you do a search on youtube for Shug or Shugemery he has done several reviews on this and other types of hammocks. |
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mjmkjun |
Can't go wrong with Dutchware Chameleon either. |
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Wharfrat63 |
The first one I bought was the lawson. I wanted the flat lay as I am a stomach sleeper. Well, the hammock was comfortable and I could definitely use it to sleep in the BWCA. Although, not sleeping on my stomach. My issue is with storage options. I rigged some cord and bungees around the velcro ties and hooked things to it...but it wasn't optimal. I needed to be able to have clothes, lights, phone, glasses, etc organized and within arm's reach. So not being satisfied, I figured I would try the Double layer Warbonnet Ridgerunner. I figured, I could always sell one. Well after some backyard testing, I am staying with the Ridgerunner. Maybe my wife might like the Lawson. We will see. I pair it with a WB Superfly and am using a Klymit Luxe insulated pad tucked into the double layer. It is the 30in model and it fits like it was made for the ridge runner. That is just perfect for me. Be careful as this Hammock thing is a deep rabbit hole... Wharfrat |
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MidwestFirecraft |
Wharfrat63: " My issue is with storage options. The saddle bags on the Ridgerunner are sweet! |
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yellowhorse |
Wharfrat63: " Stomach sleeper, here, too. So the ridge runner DOES allow you to sleep on stomach better than Lawson? I've been tempted to run down this rabbit hole but the stomach sleeping has me skeptical. |
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MidwestFirecraft |
OMGitsKa: "Just checked out the Chameleon, might have to upgrade for this season that looks a quality item. What's the deal with the double layer, just added durability?" Double layer does add durability, but mostly so a sleeping pad won't move on you. |
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TipsyPaddler |
I kept the RR as my wife enjoys sleeping in that now over a tent. No plans to part with either the RR or BB XLC but two are enough. |
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OMGitsKa |
Just checked out the Chameleon, might have to upgrade for this season that looks a quality item. What's the deal with the double layer, just added durability? |
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GickFirk22 |
OMGitsKa: " Great Question on the double layer option. 1. Creates a sleeve for a pad to be slipped into 2. Increases the load it can handle in case my crazy kids want to jump in with me 3. I figured it would be a bit more durable 4. Maybe the mosquitoes couldn't bite through it like the do my single layer hammocks? (that is, if I'm not running an underquilt) 5. I did a gray exterior and an orange interior...which makes it subtle with the landscape but I could use the orange inside for emergency signaling. 6. 2 tone looks cool :) |
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Wharfrat63 |
yellowhorse: "Wharfrat63: " Great question...For me and I stress for me (I am 5'9", broad shoulders and 190lb), I could lay on my stomach in the WBRR but I sleep with both my arms above or one under my head. The RR was not wide enough for me to get both arms up comfortable. One had to stay by my side. One other note on the WBRR was that this was only possible for me with the Klymit V Lux wide pad in the sleeve. I have not spent a night in it yet, but plenty of time napping in the backyard. The saddlebag storage and the small storage space at the head and foot end are genius! Each saddlebag has a deep pocket and a shallow pocket that you can place things like phone, glasses and light in the shallow pocket and clothes, shoes, etc in the deep pocket. The head pocket can hold hats and small pillows. Really well thought out. The Lawson was wider and I could put my hands above my head, only when it was strung tight. That made the center of gravity higher and makes the setup much more tippy. If I set it up with enough sag to lower the CG, I could not lay on my stomach without feeling like I was hyper-extending my back. One other point on the lawson, I would not use the rain cover. Heavy and confining for me. With all that said, I wondered what the lawson would be like with a double layer to insert a pad. Sleeping with the pad in the lawson was a pain. I move too much, so did the pad! I would have to go with an underquilt. I was able to sleep in it in a sort of "semi-side-stomach" position. It was comfortable. Might have been better night with an underquilt. Too much waking up to find half the pad touching the top of the bug net! Your mileage may vary, but I hope this helps. I am never going back to a tent unless I am forced. Have a great holiday! Wharfrat. |
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ZIMTLSA |
Sierra Madre Research |
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BearBurrito |
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hooky |
I'm 6'3" and have a few buddies a little taller, so I bought the 12' version. For $65 you get the hammock, tree straps, toggles and whoopie slings. It's a well made product and I've since bought a few other things from him and have found the owner, Jared, to be a really great guy to do business with. https://simplylightdesigns.com/collections/what-s-new/products/the-starter |
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crumpman |
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VaderStrom |
MidwestFirecraft: "Wharfrat63: " My issue is with storage options. I can't speak highly enough about the luxury that is the ridge runner. It stays in my car all summer should I ever want to set it up on a whim. If you're serious and only want to purchase a hammock once, I highly recommend you try out a RR first and maybe one or two others that are gathered end. Feel free to reach out if you want to borrow one for a test. |
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Me2012 |
Pilgrimpaddler: "Me2012: "OCDave: "My preferences trend toward lighter hammocks so, I have never used an Amok hammock but, you might find this style interesting." It’s a very comfortable hammock but you’ve got to make sure that you keep your center. I constantly was moving up or down a couple inches to keep centered. Too far one direction and your going for a ride! Just hopefully your heading feet first. |
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Farmboy88 |
My question to those of you who have hammock camping is can I improve on my hammock? What are some of the best hammocks that you have used? I think this is what I will be using for the foreseeable future so I have no problem investing some money in something that improves my trips that significantly. Thank you! |
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Gaidin53 |
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OCDave |
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ockycamper |
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R00kie |
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