Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Down blankets
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Mad_Angler |
thew2: "I don't have specific experience with this product, but regularly layer quilts. Enlightened Equipment has a nice summary of layering insulation, including a table the estimates the combined warmth of various temperature ratings. I highly recommend EE quilts. They are much more comfortable that traditional sleeping bags. As for down, just keep the bag in its sil-nylon bag. It will be dry. |
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TRadam |
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Mad_Angler |
TRadam: "I did a winter trip a few weeks ago where the temp dipped to -19 overnight. I had a down blanket along to pull up around me and it worked good...except. Nylon on nylon slippery and when I would wake up, the down blanket had slipped off. Not sure the cure, but very frustrating!" The Enlightened Equipment quilts have little straps and clips. They are normally used to keep the quilt on top of your mat. But you could just adjust them to hold the quilt in place over your sleeping bag. |
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rdgbwca |
sns: "Lindylair, the blanket you linked to looks exactly like the famous (in UL backpacking circles) $20 Costco down throw blankets. dry." Are these Costco blankets a seasonal item? I have two of them but they are not on the Costco website at this time. I used one inside my 20 degree down sleeping bag on a night when the temp was 34F and I was nice and toasty. |
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Chuckles |
rdgbwca: "sns: "Lindylair, the blanket you linked to looks exactly like the famous (in UL backpacking circles) $20 Costco down throw blankets. dry." They seem to come and go from Costco. Not sure it is seasonal. They have also gone up in price some to like $30-35. |
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coffeetalk |
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lindylair |
Since I have some Gift Cards lying around, and don't need much I thought I would get myself a compact down blanket for the trip(and multiple other uses in the future). But I don't want to spend a fortune, I have $50 in Gift Cards and willing to spend somewhat more than that. My leading candidate at this point is this: Down Blanket I have searched quite a bit and read hundreds of reviews and this seems as good as any in that price range. Wondering if anyone has any experience with something like that and if it would add warmth to my sleeping setup? Planning on throwing it over the top of the bag or, if conditions merit, putting it inside the bag and wrapping it around me. Looks like it could have some good use in camp on a cool night as well. Thoughts or recommendations? |
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lindylair |
Just curious if this would be worth the extra money and if that seemingly small amount of extra down is enough to be noticeably better? Down blanket, 1lb 6 oz option Thanks for your patience:) |
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mgraber |
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Chuckles |
lindylair: "Not to beat a dead horse but there is another brand of blanket that seems very similar, same specs, size and price. But they offer another option that weights 5 oz. more, so in theory there is 5 more ounces of down in the blanket spread over 80" x 50". For those of you in the know, is this amount of extra down significant to make a difference in loft and warmth or not? On the down side it is $18 more expensive which is no big deal if it works better, but also a little bulkier and , well, 5 oz heavier. I'd agree that the 5 extra oz of down would be worth every penny. |
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OldScout48 |
I have a Cats Meow 20 degree bag that has served me well, but I also bring a G. I. Poncho Liner and just toss it over my bag if it gets chilly. It's also great for laying out on the rocks while watching the sky. |
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HistoryDoc |
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lindylair |
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OCDave |
Deleted lengthy original post. I re-read the original post. If I get thet gist, the $69.99 quilt is supplemental to the 20* bag not in lieu of the 20* bag. I wouldn't expect much from a $70 down quilt but, it sounds as if the quilt would fill other niches than just this trip. So, give a try and let us know what you think. Good Luck |
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Jaywalker |
The heavier quilt you referenced is 77x50 inches, or 3,850 square inches. An extra 5 ounces of 650 down should be able to give you 3,250, which would be a little less than an inch of loft. From what I remember about estimating warmth for down quilts, it seems like their stated temp improvement of 9° is in the ball park. Ideally they are adding a little extra material to allow for more loft, but even if they are just stuffing the a bit more down in the same space, it should help. |
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lindylair |
But also want the versatility of being able to wrap it around me for that crisp early morning cup of coffee or around the campfire on a chilly night. |
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sns |
I would guess they would add +20 degrees at least if you use one over your current bag. Like you I have zero concern about down because I absolutely ensure it stays dry. |
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mschi772 |
I'm a buy once, cry once type of person who waits to pay what a good product is worth. If I were to pack a *blanket* as a supplement I'd bring a 100% wool blanket--more uses, and a quality one is easily an heirloom piece. |
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thew2 |
https://support.enlightenedequipment.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002770588-How-to-layer-quilts-for-sub-zero-camping If you could estimate the temperature rating of the blanket it would give you an idea of what to expect. |
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Chuckles |
Me and two of my kids regularly use these stand-alone as summer-only bags. Not sure how cold we've gotten but I'd guess 50s. I've also used them as supplemental to a sleeping bag. They are lighter, warmer and pack smaller than my army poncho liner. I love them. Half the weight and size of my smallest sleeping bag. The poncho liners are more durable and probably dry quicker, but after getting the down ones, the poncho liner has never made another trip. My biggest problem with using these to throw over a bag is that they don't offer much warmth once they've slipped off and are laying next to you. Slippery blanket over slippery bag equals equals trouble. To combat this, I sewed a sheet of thin nylon (old tent wall) under the bag to make it into a sleeping bag with insulation on top and sides. It is sewn all the way up on one side and 2/3 of the way up on the other. I'd say this alone added 10-15 degrees warmth as no cold air sneaks in from the sides. It does, however, make it less flexible. I don't have pictures here, but could take some if you would like to see. I feel like I posted about it here once, but can't find it. I recently bought a snap pliers and snaps similar to the ones installed on the Get Out blanket. If I was doing it over, I'd make the nylon underlayer removable with snaps. That allows you to use the blanket around camp and then also use it over your bag. You'd have a blanket during the day and a tube at night. Some people also sew a footbox similar to a hammock quilt. You could accomplish this with snaps or a bungee if you wanted to. I linked to one picture below, but a google search will turn up hundreds of pictures and videos. DIY Costco Quilt I share several of the other posters concern about wet down and I keep waiting for someone to produce a reasonably priced DWR or similarly treated blanket. |
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HayRiverDrifter |
If you go with the blanket you are looking at, it would not be that difficult to add the foot box by adding a short zipper and a channel for a draw sting in the foot end. That way, whether inside your bag or over your bag, the foot end of the blanket stays put. Example top quilt: Economy Burrow Top Quilt Look down through the features. You can get different temp ratings. I would get the zipper in the foot box which also comes with a draw string to gather the end. That way you can open it up to a square quilt also. |
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Jaywalker |
The sew-through construction does not provide as much warmth as a baffle, but it doesn't to mean its poor quality. My Pategonia down sweater is also sew-through and they are rarely accused of skimping or making cheap stuff. I didn't see what the loft was, but from the few comments I did see it looks like it would add probably 10-15º warmth or so. It does say that its 650 down which is not great but is at least measured. The comments say its 80% duck down and 20% feathers. The customer ratings are quite good and there are a lot of them. I'm guessing most people buying it are doing what you are doing or using straight up as a top quilt and seem happy with it. It seems to have a couple snaps (thus the poncho type enclosure), but it looks like these could work as a foot box to help it stay on top of you as Chuckles mentions. I'd say it may not be a top quality top quilt, but it is going to probably do what you want it to do for a pretty fair price. |
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Chuckles |
" HayRiverDrifter: Looking at the temp ratings on this site, 3 oz of 800 fill down equates to 10 degrees of extra warmth. I'm sure this varies between quilts, but is a helpful metric to see how much warmth your down blanket would add. One other note about these blankets is that they're so light and small that you can throw in an extra one until you tune in your system. The first outside night I spent in my down quilt/blanket/bag, I had two more in my pack, in case it was a total bust. |
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pamonster |
4-5 years ago I did on a AEGISMAX supposed 800 fill goose down blanket/bag. Paid like $60 at the time I think. Looks like they've doubled in price. Apparently they hit the AT by storm for a bang/buck option. Had mixed reviews but I wasn't expecting the world....just a $60 bag. I've been pleased. It's nice for warm weather and super small and light when compressed for adding to the sleeping system if needed. I think it's around 1lb total. I had it (Comfort:+52° F/ Lower Limit:43° F/ Extreme:15° F) and a 45° F bag down into the 20's on a BWCA trip.....by morning I was cold but survived :) |
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Chuckles |
If you order from the mfgr, they offerred a 10% coupon code GETOUTSIDE. |
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lindylair |
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dringge |
Chuckles: "Spoke with the mfgr; they have a synthetic version that is 0.4 oz heavier but more moisture resistant. It is also about $10 cheaper.I like the sound of this. |
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lindylair |
Any more thoughts or ideas, bring em on. Otherwise i will probably order it in a week or so. With that many positive reviews I have to believe it is a decent and quality product. We shall see. Every year I like to go with one or two new pieces of equipment and it is part of the winter trip planning deciding what those items will be. Kind of fun. I research things a LOT and haven't been disappointed very often. Now to figure out what the other new piece of gear or clothing is...got my eyes on this(also have $50 in Cabelas gift cards): Bug stopper Hoodie Thoughts? |