Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: sliding tractor seat - lock in position?
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Blatz |
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sns |
However having paddled it a bunch with the seat removed (used an improvised, lower seat) I know I want to lower it 2-3 inches. The twitchiness evaporates for me... So I am going to build another minicell seat (DIY Ultralight seat build). This new one will have the ability to slide in the aluminum L brackets that are the foundation for the pedestal seat. Should save about 22-23 oz from the stock seat. |
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Banksiana |
PS: consider contacting Savage River for their padded seat, or build one of your own, as well as adding comfort it really fixes your mass to the canoe. |
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sns |
They are making me a new thwart - going to move the front one back to be able to use my UL yoke system (build in the DIY section). It will also be a tad wider than stock to allow room for Cerberus. I found trim to be more important than you seem to have - a couple of recent paddles were in 10-14 mph winds and I did have to make adjustments. But that was with 53 lb Cerberus up front, 175+ lb me in the middle, and the 25lb pack in the back. I may need to play with some additional ballast in the rear; I suspect it might do better with a heavier load. And although I am no racer, it is really fast. I've been using a tracking app and so far am coming up with about a 3.9 mph average across all conditions. 4.16 on glass over a 5 mile stretch. I'll need to run some comparisons to my Magic, but I am guessing the Blackwater has fully a half-mph in-hand with my modest paddling abilities. Oh, and of course/obviously: it does not turn as well as my other solos. PS - "Quetico Texture"...love it. |
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MReid |
What I'm talking about (and a source!) Google "Amber 1" Spring Collar PAIR" on ebay. Looks like you could go to a fitness/sport shop/WalMart and find a collar for weights. I think the Wenonah clamps are lighter duty/easier to squeeze. |
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Banksiana |
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sns |
I now have three nice solos, but I think I will need to divest one...decisions, decisions. |
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sns |
I don't like that there's no way to lock it in place, and I found myself moving back...eventually I'd notice it, move forward again, and repeat without end. Am I just doing something wrong? |
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Voyager |
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sns |
Spring clips could work...do they hold well on round aluminum tube? Here's a couple shots of the seat; no current locking mechanism but it will be simple to put spring clips on. |
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Ausable |
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sns |
I have added backbands to my canoes with fixed seats. Is that feasible with a slider? |
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Pinetree |
MReid: "The newer Wenonah seats have a wire spring clamp that locks the seat. I'd suggest contacting the manufacturer to see if they have them. I haven't seen a replacement in a hardware store, but maybe someone else has. If you don't move it, just a hose clamp will work. I only move mine when I'm dealing with wind in an empty boat--otherwise I move my gear around. My solo is 15 years old and had the spring clips |
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Banksiana |
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MReid |
Pinetree: "MReid: "The newer Wenonah seats have a wire spring clamp that locks the seat. I'd suggest contacting the manufacturer to see if they have them. I haven't seen a replacement in a hardware store, but maybe someone else has. If you don't move it, just a hose clamp will work. I only move mine when I'm dealing with wind in an empty boat--otherwise I move my gear around. My 39 yo C1W doesn't have the clips! Yours is newer! But I also have a 2017 Voyager, with clips. As Banksiana said, my old one is stiff enough to not need them, but I do lube it occasionally to help. |
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MReid |
sns: "Related question:I have added backbands to my canoes with fixed seats. It it is affixed to the seat only (not frame), should be fine |
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Cc26 |
Voyager: "The canoe manufactures use these same clips. My Savage River didn't have 1, so I added 1. You will only need 1. Place it on the tube on the right of course if you're right handed." yes - mine has two, I think the one behind the seat was factory and the one in front of the seat was added later. pretty sweet |
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mjmkjun |
sns: "Related question: On my Prism (sliding tractor style seat) the backband support is affixed to the wood gunwales but it's not been an issue because of the adjustable straps of the backband. Easy to tighten/extend each side. Foot braces help too on forward slides. |
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paddler1953 |
That's all for now. Take care and until next time...be well. snapper |
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Banksiana |
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