Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Tarp Ridgeline
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Argo |
I also learned to splice eyes and end splice as well with home made tools from this board. It's easy with 7/64s and gets a bit harder with the narrower diameters. The eye splice is probably the best option at the anchor end. Just wrap it around the tree, pull a loop of a couple of inches through the working end and insert a toggle like a stick or a tent peg. No knots and easily removable or adjustable up or down the tree if you want to adjust the height. The end splice is superior method of reinforcing the working end of the rope than burning it. Dynema isn't as supple as para but it's significantly lighter, stronger, has way less stretch, and doesn't absorb water. |
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Argo |
OldTripper: "BonzSF: "I hope this doesn’t sound like a silly question but. Agree with everything with one modification. I have gone with Nama Claws instead of Prussics on the 1.75 mm Zingit continuous ridgeling. |
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Lawnchair107 |
jillpine: "Agree on zing-it, and use CCS 1/8 cordage for the group tarp. I try to like the zing-it, and do like it a lot when I’m saving grams, but CCS cordage is just like the rest of CCS gear - no comparison. I’ve only used amsteel for suspension. Another lash-it/ zing-it fan paired with some titannium hardware (wasp, flyz & nama claws). I’m not against using hardware, but when I start cranking down on the truckers hitch I find the knots on the lash-it/ zing-it/ CCS cord are unbearable to untie (slipknot portion) gets pulled so tigh I’m unable to untie without hardware. Maybe I’m doing that simple knot wrong? But when I start tightening, my slipknot gets tight along the way. Anyone else have this issue? |
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Argo |
Lawnchair107: "jillpine: "Agree on zing-it, and use CCS 1/8 cordage for the group tarp. I try to like the zing-it, and do like it a lot when I’m saving grams, but CCS cordage is just like the rest of CCS gear - no comparison. I’ve only used amsteel for suspension. I'm confused. That's the reason why it's slippery. One tug and you're free. |
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unshavenman |
Lawnchair107: "jillpine: "Agree on zing-it, and use CCS 1/8 cordage for the group tarp. I try to like the zing-it, and do like it a lot when I’m saving grams, but CCS cordage is just like the rest of CCS gear - no comparison. I’ve only used amsteel for suspension. If I'm understanding you correctly you may be creating your cinch loop from the wrong end of the cord. Be sure you are creating the loop by using cord from the direction of the tail and you shouldn't have this issue. See Trucker's Hitch animated. |
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Blackdogyak |
campnfish: "Not a silly question, I think plenty use a split Ridgeline vs. a continuous, I just tie off to a d ring on each side of my hammock tarp. I have tried both ways, one advantage to a continuous Ridgeline is the ability to shift your tarp back and forth on the Ridgeline for easy placement between trees or over your hammock. Another advantage is that you get to hang gear from the Ridgeline under the tarp. |
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OgimaaBines |
Is amsteel too slick/smooth for some knots? |
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etuller |
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campnfish |
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OgimaaBines |
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plander |
OgimaaBines: "Good deal! What diameter dyneema/amsteel do you use? the 3/8 would be nice for tying but seems like overkill. That's what I've got on my ATV winch!" 7/64 or 1/8. Holds knots fine. |
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OgimaaBines |
plander: "Blackdogyak: "campnfish: "Not a silly question, I think plenty use a split Ridgeline vs. a continuous, I just tie off to a d ring on each side of my hammock tarp. I have tried both ways, one advantage to a continuous Ridgeline is the ability to shift your tarp back and forth on the Ridgeline for easy placement between trees or over your hammock. Thanks for the video and also thanks for the responses everyone. I picked up a ridgline stuffsack from Dan at the expo this past weekend and am having a good time messing around with the setup. |
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plander |
Blackdogyak: "campnfish: "Not a silly question, I think plenty use a split Ridgeline vs. a continuous, I just tie off to a d ring on each side of my hammock tarp. I have tried both ways, one advantage to a continuous Ridgeline is the ability to shift your tarp back and forth on the Ridgeline for easy placement between trees or over your hammock. Another reason to use a continuous ridgeline is that you can hang and take down the tarp without it ever touching the ground. Continuous Ridgeline setup and take down video |
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BonzSF |
Do you always use a ridge line for hammock tarps ‘ I have been practicing with my Hex tarp by tying off to the d-rings at the edge of the tarp ridge . Is a dedicated ridge line recommend too? I haven’t had any problems though it’s never been in storm conditions . Is it too much stress on the tarp without a ridge line? Thanks for all on this forum, it’s really been helpful to get your insights! Still gotta wait until mid August and can’t stand it! Tim |
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campnfish |
I think you need to just try both methods and see what you like. As for storms, I've been through very strong storms with a split Ridgeline, and it's been fine. |
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jillpine |
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OldTripper |
BonzSF: "I hope this doesn’t sound like a silly question but. I think you will find folks who use both methods with equal success. I suggest you try both methods and see which one works best for you. I've only gotten into hammock camping in the past year but have been out 15-20 times so far. Personally, I prefer the continuous ridgeline for a couple reasons: 1- Super fast setup using ZingIt with a Dutch Hook and Dutchware Wasp with the tarp loops floating on the taught ridgeline. 2- Adjusting the tarp along the ridgeline (to get it centered over your hammock) is very easy using prusiks and toggles. I use small twigs picked up on site. 3- You can have a very tight ridgeline for good support without putting any stress on your tarp. In the beginning I kept everything pre-rigged in a stuff sack so setup went pretty fast. Now I use a snakeskin and setup is even a bit faster. Try a couple different ways and pick the one that works best for you. |