Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Northstar Northwind 16
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Kermit |
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Banksiana |
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cmanimal |
One quirk about the polaris is that the gunnel is narrower than the hull, so when you pick it up to portage, it rains on your arms for awhile, instead of the water coming off of the hull hitting the gunnel and running off the stern of the canoe. |
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jillpine |
I'd like to get a tandem; I'm pretty set on Northstar. Needs to be lightweight (starlight or blacklight layup but not stealth). I consider myself an intermediate paddler - looking for a tandem as challenging, fast and playful as my Trillium solo. Savage River also on the shortlist - will paddle a custom deepcreek in a couple weeks. Thank you for your thoughts. |
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OCDave |
Despite being 3 inches longer than the Northwind 16 (16'6' vs 16'9"), the Polaris is just wee bit lighter. While still very spacious, the Polaris is slightly narrower than the Northwind 16 and has a lower sheer height. The lower sheer height I interpret as less surface available to catch the wind but, I suppose that helps with keeping weight down as well. I find the Polaris to be fun, fast and impeccably maneuverable even when I have to do most of the paddling. Given the comparable dimensions, bow and stern rockers ect., I expect you'll feel the same about the Northwind 16. I bought the Polaris 4 or 5 years ago. At that time, it was priced just a bit more than the Northwind 16. If this s still true, it would certainly be worth considering/ comparing to the Northwind 16. Good Luck, I hope something I type is helpful |
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jillpine |
PVnRT: "Have owned Polaris Starlight and 16 as Bell in Royalex. Loved, loved, loved both. Polaris a bit faster. both very stable and turn very well. Perhaps ask where you will be paddling the tandem. frequency? rivers? tripping? PVnRT (best moniker ever) - past tense? Did you part with them? Frequency: as much as possible, high water and low water, shoulder season and high summer. Rivers - yes, everything except II technical and and higher. tripping - yes, but at 56 yrs old and 125 lbs, I am not going to be able to carry or drag royalex for far and long. If the canoe can't carry it, I will do without or work around it. I cannot comfortably and safely portage a 50 lb or 17+ ft boat on a sustained trip. I can do it for a Lake One weekend, but not a wilderness paddle. Basically, I am looking for my Trillium in a tandem. Sounds like Polaris needs a second look. As I said, I overlooked it simply because somebody said they chose it because it is "dual - purpose". I'm not looking for dual - purpose. Really appreciate the thoughts and insight! |
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PVnRT |
Difficult to find a shipmate that is as hungry for frequent paddling as me, so couldn't justify the tandems taking up garage space. I'm now exclusively a soloist--in a Trillium, too. |
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MidwestFirecraft |
jillpine: "looking for a tandem as challenging, fast and playful as my Trillium solo. s. " I like the Northwind 16, but it does not fit the description above. As others have noted the Polaris or Bell Northstar canoe fits very well. I have a Bell Northstar you are welcome to try. It is in blackgold with wood gunnels so a little heavier at 44 lbs. |
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Speckled |
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jillpine |
I spoke with a person recently who paddles a newer Polaris. When asked why he chose a Polaris and not a Northwind 16, he said he wanted a tandem that could work as a solo, and he was happy with the Polaris for this purpose. Not being interested in a "dual-purpose" tandem, I suppose I overlooked it for the the Northwind 16. But it sounds like maybe I should be taking a closer look at the Polaris. Here are the specs comparison: Northwind 16: 16'6" width: 32 / 36max / 32, rocker: 2.5 / 1.5 sheerline: 21 / 14 / 19 opt. load 275-575 (wt 41 carbon, 39 aramid) Polaris Polaris 16'9" width: 31 / 34.5 max / 31, rocker: 2.5 / 1.5 sheerline: 20.5 / 13.5 / 17.5 opt. load 250-550 (wt 40 carbon, 38 aramid) Optimal load difference - not a factor. Length - minimally different. The minimally different max width and sheerline must make a notable difference in the handling. No dog, no large loads, experienced bow and stern paddlers. River and lake paddling. Maybe the Polaris. |
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justpaddlin |
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