Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Gear use you should practice
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OCDave |
YetiJedi: "Curious...recognizing the importance of being proficient with gear before venturing into the wilderness, ... Are the daughters old enough that they could set up camp on their own? Could they build a fire? Prepare a meal on their own? >> There is always a meal a kid can prepare. You could have each daughter practice the meal she will be responsible for preparing during the trip << A few car camping trips or a backyard campout with the daughters doing the camp set-up, meal prep and camp tear-down without or with minimal parental assistance would build in them a greater level of confidence before your wilderness trip. It may surprise you how much they can do and how young they can do it. |
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YetiJedi |
A few of my examples...I have four cans of bear spray. Each year we spray one to practice and then replace it with a new canister. For some reason, I always seem to get a little bit of residual spray in my eyes and nose. I am always surprised at the burn! That said, seeing the bear spray in use helps me feel at least a little better prepared for a real situation. Anyone else have suggestions? I'm looking for good ideas for activities to try with my daughters before our trips this summer. |
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MReid |
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NEIowapaddler |
Honestly, the number one thing people should practice for canoe camping is what to do if you capsize. Kinda like using bear spray, it's one of those things you hope to never need to do, but better to be prepared. |
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tumblehome |
NEIowapaddler: Unfortunately, you can never practice what to do if you capsize until you actually do. If I taught a wilderness class, I would make my paddlers capsize in less than favorable waters with a loaded canoe. It’s the only way to learn what it’s like. I’ve been in a canoe nearly my whole life and I never capsized until three years ago. It was definitely not like I thought it would be. It was far worse. Anyway, good advice, sorry to hijack a good thread. If you bring a lantern or gas stove, practice those because they often need some work in the spring to get them tuned. Tom |
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HayRiverDrifter |
New gear is like Christmas. It gets unboxed and setup right away for testing purposes. New tarps need some setup like stinging the ridge line adding lines for setup. It's also nice to practice some tarp setups. Maybe learn a new knot or two. I also plan to practice with my solo on a local lake in very windy conditions. I am very comfortable on flat water, and want to test my limits in rough water like white caps on a local lake where if I do go over, it's in a controlled setting. I am leading two trips this year with younger folks. They will be practicing with their gear. |
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Mocha |
how to string up rain fly, esp in areas without many trees. does your compass still work and do you remember how to use it? lifting the canoe properly w/o straining something. how to use the camera settings. how to administer some first aid (tourniquet, sling, immobilizing ideas) |
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MikeinMpls |
2. If you're using a major piece of gear for the first time, please practice using it or setting it up. If you get a new tent, set up a time or two in the backyard. Standing in a campsite reading the directions for the first time or figuring out that you are missing a junction bar is not the place you want to be. 3. I will echo the map and compass comments above. I think a lot of people bring in a compass for backup in case their GPS fails for whatever reason. I've encountered people who this is happened to and they had a backup compass, but no idea how it works. Sure, they know the needle points north, but they had no idea how to use the compass in relation to the map, or how to orient the map in relation to the compass. I might add others later. Mike |
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QuietSolo |
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schweady |
Reviewing essential knots Testing the stove Testing the gravity filter |
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YetiJedi |
straighthairedcurly: "Should've had my husband practice putting up our old tent before he put the fly on upside down during a rainstorm...lol! But we will be practicing tent set up for our new tents." HAHAHA!!! That's too funny. :) |
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straighthairedcurly |
I practice certain knots because some don't come easily for me. Should've had my husband practice putting up our old tent before he put the fly on upside down during a rainstorm...lol! But we will be practicing tent set up for our new tents. I always review how to use my SPOT before the start of the season. |
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jillpine |
I always have to review/add updates to my inreach technical things when activating it after a few months’ lapse. I’m always trying to dial in efficient packing, so that’s something I review over…and over. A couple years ago, I set up a little campsite - gear staging area in the yard to learn how to hang and use a hammock. That has been really helpful in acclimating to cold and wet — that can be a mind-game as well as a survival game when the stakes are higher (and real), so I pick cold, wet nights to go out there and practice. I’m kind of nerd I guess. Oh well, I’m in good company with this board. :) |
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YetiJedi |
Speckled: "I don't think I practice anything with the intent of it being practice. I get out alot in the canoe - day trips, fishing, paddling, etc... " Good way to look at it, Speckled. Makes sense to me. |
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YetiJedi |
merlyn: "PS: I tried to duplicate the fire-starting scenario under adverse conditions, it did not go well. I now have storm matches and two types of fire starters in my pfd ditch kit." Exactly this. We tried it last weekend with the ice storm and were too successful. |
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YetiJedi |
A1t2o: "Paddling is always good to practice, mostly for the exercise, but proper strokes will be more efficient and tire you less. Very good points, A1, about caring for injuries after the fact. Good to have knowledge of medicine too and how to manage pain. |
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YetiJedi |
Mocha: "PRACTICE: First aid...very important. Since I trip primarily with young children or alone, being able to administer first aid on yourself is important too. Also agree with the compass work. When I was a kid there were compass courses at a nearby state park (Farragut State Park in Idaho) and we would practice there. Have to set my own now and really should do that with my kids. Thanks for the reminder, Mocha! |
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YetiJedi |
I'm grateful to be a member of this site and for the friendly sense of community. Good people. |
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YetiJedi |
OCDave: "YetiJedi: "Curious...recognizing the importance of being proficient with gear before venturing into the wilderness, ... Hi OCDave, So I have six daughters, the oldest two are off to college, two in high school, and a 5th and 3rd grader. Love 'em to death and got it right every time with girls! The oldest two could go on a trip and do just fine even if they don't quite think so. The two in high school are not that into wilderness excursions but we do lots of other adventures. My youngest two love to camp and can hardly wait for our week to Baker Lake! We've done several BW trips already but always with their older sisters. They are both enjoying the time we spend getting ready and I am just looking for more ideas to engage them in the process. You are very correct...it always does surprise me what they can do without my help. There have been a number of really good suggestions in this thread and I appreciate the collective support and creativity. I really like your idea of having them be in charge of an entire meal for our trip and we can practice that on our gear on hikes locally - I'll report back! |
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YetiJedi |
jillpine: "Knots, for sure. Thank you, Jillpine, for your thoughts...they hit home in a good way! Your comment about a back yard campground brought back a good memory: I took one of my daughters into the wilderness when she was 6 and we had to dig a cathole to bury human waste. Well, lo and behold, she implemented the strategy in the backyard to avoid cutting into her play time! Good idea to have an active gear staging and testing area. :) |
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merlyn |
Another- one of the kids goes exploring behind camp and gets turned around (a polite way of saying lost) What should they do and what should you do? And another- not a lot of call for using an ax or hatchet at home but they are common equipment on camping trips. You can fill in all the possibilities yourself. I can think of more things that should be practiced or at least discussed before a trip, you too? PS: I tried to duplicate the fire starting scinario under adverse conditions, it did not go well. I now have storm matches and two types of fire starters in my pfd ditch kit. |
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A1t2o |
Fire starting. Even though I usually cheat with fire starter, knowing how to start a good fire in an emergency is important. First aid. I didn't even realized how inadequate my first aid skills and kit was until I had a wound that needed to be dressed and changed out regularly. Typical first aid focuses only on the 'first' portion of wound treatment, as in only stopping the bleeding so you can make it to the hospital. When help might be days away instead of minutes or hours, you have to consider the type of wound and the healing process so it doesn't get infected or aggrivate the wound. A scrape and a cut have very different treatments. Some injuries don't need to be trip ending either so just being able to treat it in the field could make all the difference. Might want to bring and practice sutures as well. |
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Speckled |
I'll unpack my tent pre-trip just to make sure everything is there, but other than that. I've got a checklist and I just load everything up. I can go from zero prep for a trip to loaded an ready to go in under an hour. |
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Frenchy19 |
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Northwoodsman |
Tent - it's always good to not only practice setting it up but to check for damage and missing parts. Stove - make sure it works. Water filtration system. |
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papalambeau |
Northwoodsman: "Compass for sure. +1 These are the three that we always check out the week before we head north. |
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sns |
I do test water filter & stove before each trip, but that's not really the same thing. |
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MDVancleave |
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YetiJedi |
MReid: "You can buy inert cans for practice. True. Haven't used those. The sabre brand I buy says they have a shelf life of 3 years so we rotate by practicing. |