Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: How do you group things within packs when packing?
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JohnGalt |
My ‘backpack’ has a roll top sealline bag & within this I have gear organized in drawstring bags/other pouches. My Kitchen Pack has a Piragis liner & then I organize my food within by use of gallon sized freezer bags. I tried out using stiff cardboard to organize this pack though I found that it inhibits the food pack from shrinking over time & it just made for excess bulk. My CCS bag has a fishing bag at the bottom holding fishing + camera gear & on top of this goes a roll top sealline duffle style bag which holds my battery bank (used to hold camera gear). The Piragis liners are pretty awesome & durable. Drawstring silnylon bags are lightweight & if the seams are sealed they will only allow water in through one opening, making them fairly watertight. I take care to not place my dry bags on the ground to prevent wear, opting instead to put beneath them my sleeping pad or ground cloth/a pack when loading/unloading them. I’m a fan of the ridge line stuff sack from CCS for tent/tarps though it also works well for sleeping bag which I feel like I’m less likely to damage with the ‘two-step stuff’ of the CCS sack vs the included stuff sack. I also have the Duluth Pack all day hip pack & this holds my first aid kit in the outer pouch & I keep dry shoes + clothes in the main compartment (I put these in a dry bag & the shoes in an internal bag to keep stuff clean). |
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boonie |
I think most everybody has some variation of this theme. |
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Tomcat |
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bri |
Fire - backup stove, fuel, ferro rod, lighter, backup fire starters Clean - TP, Basic H, scrubber Towel / toiletries - Pack Towel, microfibers, toiletries Bug - ThermaCELL, bug dope, backup headnets Eat - Fancy Feast alcohol stove, fuel, Toaks, Fosters mug, sports, OveGlove H2O - MSR gravity, MSR Drom, extra filter and caps Gear - knives, headlamp, Gerber multi, battery pack, little ditties (this is an old Ducks unlimited toiletry bag with zippered pockets) |
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johndku |
NotLight: "ONE small multi-zippered eagle creek bag for ALL the totally unrelated little stuff. Otherwise I'm just hunting down and losing little ditty bags everywhere. Nice to keep it all in ONE SPOT - to the extent that is reasonable. |
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johndku |
NotLight: "ONE small multi-zippered eagle creek bag for ALL the totally unrelated little stuff. Otherwise I'm just hunting down and losing little ditty bags everywhere. Nice to keep it all in ONE SPOT - to the extent that is reasonable. |
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Blackdogyak |
NEIowapaddler: "I group things by purpose, with each "group" getting their own dry bag. Clothes in one, toiletries in another, cookware in another, etc. The only exception to this are the biggest items like sleeping bag, hammock, sleeping pad, etc. Those get packed individually. This method means I only need to dig through a small bag when I need something instead of my whole pack. Similar methodology. SealLine Boundary Pak 115 gets most of the gear. Gear is combination of free floating, wax canvas bags, dirty sacks and dry bags. I have a dirty sack for all my cordage, ridgelines, carabineers and stakes. I have another dirty sack with all my repair items Duck tape, tenacious tape, AquaSeal FD+, super glue, etc Small first aid kit. Big first aid Tupperware when I am in groups. Lantern, Fuel, hatchet, chair, cutting board, cook kit, bowls, cups, tarps, etc. Then a frameless backpacking pack with all my sleeping gear. Sleeping bag, hammock and blanket all individual compression dry bags. Also holds misc items: ThermaCELL, micro lantern, fuel canister Most of the time, here's what's left... 5 gal bucket with Gamma Lid for dry food... all ziplock inside IceMule soft cooler for meat and dairy Dry bag with clothes Dry bag 20L Go bag with all my jazz like knives, bug dope, toilet paper, snack, extra lighter, binoculars, VHF radios, bath kit in micro dry bag, head net, sunscreen, flare gun, etc. Folding Agawa 21 saw Fishing rods and tackle crate Anchor The stuff I will use first gets packed on top. In the backpack, the tarp will be the first up, then hammock, and then sleeping bag and blanket under. In the portage pack, the cordage and tarps are on the top. Ditty bags are color coded and easy to find. The SealLine Boundary Bags are rubberized and completely bombproof. I have been using 2 since 1990 or so. I really like the Sea2Summit Big River dry bags. Very robust and yet lightweight and very fabric-like. |
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andym |
Pack 2 is the tent, tarp, food, kitchen gear, saw.... The key to this pack are stuff sacks and sometimes stuff sacks inside stuff sacks (e.g. one big stuff sack with all kitchen gear contains smaller sacks with utensils and fire starter stuff). How the other people on trips pack is generally up to them. I say generally because when taking nieces and nephews we will make suggestions. With a large group of our nephews we did find that 2 people's personal items worked well in a pack. That left plenty of people to carry food and gear. |
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chiefagikamik |
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rlstoner2004 |
Certainly I can pack this and be fine, but there are so many small pieces, how do you section off the insides of the bags to always know where things are? Rope, tools, touletries, glasses... do you have a smaller bag for fire starting + tools, another for clothes, another for tent gear, another for.... I think the answer is yes but any good tips or strategies are welcome! |
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NEIowapaddler |
I do this with food too. Each meal gets packed in its own quart ziploc bag, but then those get put into three 1 or 2 gallon ziplocs - breakfast, lunch, and dinner. |
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justpaddlin |
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TrailZen |
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Canoeinggal |
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Speckled |
chiefagikamik: "Hey Speckled! Can't help but notice in that list, do you say that you put the tarp partially overlapping the tent, so you can use it as a sort of "covered porch"? That's a cool idea - never thought of it! Does it work well? I'd worry that rain may run off the tarp and cause extra water to pour onto the tent. Any other tips on that technique?" Depending on the available trees and tent pad locations, it'll typically cover the full tent. Sometimes the feet area or one side will be partially left exposed, but it's minimal exposure. The tent has a great rainfly and fortunately I have had any issues with water. Just make sure you're not funneling the water uphill from your tent and you'll be fine. Selecting a good tent pad area helps for sure. |
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Speckled |
Once in camp, everything comes out of the pack. Tent is set up, kitchen is set up and fishing gear assembled. There's a few odd items, bug dope or TP comes to mind, but that's usually just set under a tarp or someplace accessible. After that I don't really have anything else? Everything I bring gets used. What items are folks keeping in the pack - once camp is set up? |
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rlstoner2004 |
Speckled: "When I pack, everything goes into one pack. Large items go in and the smaller extra's are used to fill in the gaps. I don't know where everything is and haven't ever really needed to. Key items that I may need during travel (i.e. - TP or rain gear) are packed in accessible spots. How long do you stay at camp? Would you do this full unpack even for 2 nights? |
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Speckled |
rlstoner2004: "Speckled: "When I pack, everything goes into one pack. Large items go in and the smaller extra's are used to fill in the gaps. I don't know where everything is and haven't ever really needed to. Key items that I may need during travel (i.e. - TP or rain gear) are packed in accessible spots. Yes - it's done for single nights as well. We've done basecamp trips where it's 2 - 3+ nights and also travel trips where we move every night. Everything I bring is needed/used. If it stays in the pack i'd figure I didn't need to bring it, with maybe one or two exceptions like rain gear. Below is my list for shoulder season trips. |
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straighthairedcurly |
Packs: Pack basket holds cooking pots, saw, 1st aid kit and my husbands spare clothes (he gets cold easily). Our food bags get packed in a 55L Earthpak, and everything else gets packed in a Sealline 115L. Dry shoes are kept separate from the clothing bags and used to stuff into empty gaps as the other gear fills the pack. |
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kjw |
I also like CCS toiletry bag for items such as floss, toothpaste, toothbrush, medicine & etc. I also bring Seal Line dry bag in either 5L or 10L to roll up and snap around canoe thwart. I put eyeglass cleaner, bug juice, sunscreen, bear spray, Inreach & etc in it. At end of last trip I walked into Piragis store and bought an Air Zipp Sack 5L by Granite Gear. I will use it to put headlamps, weather radio, phone, earbuds, charging cables, Anker power bank & small misc items in it. It could also replace the CCS toiletry bag if I got another one. |
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NotLight |
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gonorth1 |
In portage pack: 2 sleeping bags, 2 sleep pads, tent, tarp, one medium to small stuff sack for each person containing extra clothes, head lamp, & misc. stuff, 2 small camp chairs. Rain gear, TP double bagged with lighter & hand sanitizer, & filled water bottles are stored on the top, under the flap of the pack. In the barrel: Food (in three stuff sacks each a different color for the three meals); cook pot filled with stove (canister type), utensils, soap, cups, & other small items which can fit inside the pot; fry pan at very bottom of barrel, wind screen for stove, dry shoes, head nets (rarely if ever where headsets during the day, once in camp there accessible; cozies (boil in a bag cooking), bowl for whipping up desserts, folding saw, gloves (for use with saw), & reading material. Except for the food, most of the items are stored loose in the barrel On top of barrel lid, under pack zippered pocket: filter system (easily accessible to fill as we approach our campsite), fishing tackle & trowel (where it can't poke other items. In top pocket of barrel pack: first aid kit, sunscreen, sunglasses, camera, bug juice, more TP, & a plastic container holding the day's lunch items. I've found the barrel pack to be quite useful with the extra space under the top pocket and the pocket itself. As usual CCS products are well designed and well constructed. As you can visualize there are no loose items in the canoe other than the pfds and map case. |