Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Fuel Canister Questions
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geotramper |
The Adventures in Stoving blog has a lot of great info about this. |
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billconner |
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cmanimal |
My canisters tend to get a few years on them before they get used up (white gas is my go to) so I'm assuming its an age thing as single use items are made accordingly (cheap). |
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TomP |
I switched to canister stoves because I had a couple of bad experiences with the MSR red liquid fuel bottles. One was a leak in my pack. Over the winter I wanted to see if the Primus stove worked correctly so I attached it to an older MSR fuel canister. Stove worked great. When I unscrewed it, the fuel canister would not seal and fuel/air mix kept coming out so I just left it out side until the fuel ran out. Has anyone had a canister fail in the field? Does it matter what brand of canisters you use? I’ve tried to stay with MSR but last trip there were none available in town so I used Colman canisters from Wally World. Do you carry a back up to your canister stove? If so, what? |
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Tryin |
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Argo |
My bottles are carried in a separate bag to ensure against contamination in the event of a leak (which happened once). It's also important to ensure your bottles are not filled past the fill line marked on the bottles to account for expansion. Despite all of this I love my Primus liquid fueled stove. It's just the cannisters I don't like. |
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JD |
I have not experienced any problems with MSR isobutane. In fact, I accidentally dropped one down a small rocky cliff into the Kawishiwi River last spring, bouncing on rocks several times as it fell down. I raced down to the canoe landing and blasted through the light riffles as I tried to find it. Sure enough, I finally found the red canister bobbing with the opening facing up, so I grabbed it and paddled back to camp. I saw no obvious signs of damage and heard no hissing. It was my only can of fuel, and I had yet to make breakfast, so I blew out the opening as best I could, screwed it onto my stove, and fired it right up. No issues! On most trips, we bring several cans varying in level of fill, but it also gives peace of mind in case one of the cans does fail for some reason. |
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Ausable |
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billconner |
Argo: "Fuel bottles now appear to be sold with mandatory childproof spring-loaded tops. IMO they suck. Just an additional point of potential failure on what should be a very simple and secure design. I believe this was done to comply with California safety code. I always carry mine filled except one. I carry them in a pack but outside the liner. |
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boonie |
One guy mentioned on here one time they a leaky valve and just had to leave the stove attached to it for the rest of the trip. I've used most of the major ones - JetBoil, MSR, Optimus, Snowpeak - interchangeably without issue. They all use the lindal valve (EN 417 standard). |
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billconner |
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Argo |
billconner: "Argo: "Fuel bottles now appear to be sold with mandatory childproof spring-loaded tops. IMO they suck. Just an additional point of potential failure on what should be a very simple and secure design. I believe this was done to comply with California safety code. Are they simple screw-on tops or the type I have? Even when only filled to the fill line, the fuel will expand in warmer temps. I have seen it gently bleed out in summer temps while stored in the shade. Under colder conditions this may not happen. |
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Troska |
However, for those of you who use canisters, I noticed last night that REI has the Optimus 8oz on sale for $0.93/canister. Seemed like a good deal, wanted to share with other paddlers. https://www.rei.com/product/205716/optimus-gas-canister-8-oz-220-g |
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Sunburn |
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sns |
Which makes me think it’s likely quite rare. Have never had any kind of failure in the field. On group trips we usually have multiple canisters. On solos I take one; I am fine with that level of risk. |
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Jaywalker |
TomP: ".....I switched to canister stoves because I had a couple of bad experiences with the MSR red liquid fuel bottles. One was a leak in my pack......" Just out of curiosity, did you check the O-rings on your fuel bottle? I know that after years of use the O-rings can start to get hard and crack, potentially leading to fuel leakage. Everyone using MSR or other white gas storage bottles should check their O-rings from time to time. |
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mgraber |
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