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05/23/2024 01:32PM |
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05/23/2024 12:48PM |
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05/16/2024 06:32PM |
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05/22/2024 11:00AM |
The problem I still see is that each BV475 only holds 9.3L and I currently run into space issues with the 30L barrel. That is, IF it would even fit sideways. I would hate to no longer have a use for my CCS pack
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05/22/2024 11:52AM |
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05/15/2024 06:05PM |
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05/15/2024 11:49AM |
I require about 1.9 liters of food per day. This equates to about 6 days worth of food in a BV 500. My trip partner only requires about 1.4 liters of food per day. This equates to about 8 days worth of food in a BV 500.
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05/15/2024 02:25PM |
schweady: "Great video. If only BV could go the other way, too, and develop a BV 550 or BV 600. No, most folks aren't going to bother repackaging their MH meal packs, but I have found that pricking a pinhole in the package, pressing/sucking out the excess air, covering the hole with a bit of tape, and redistributing the meal into a flat shape will allow even more meals to fit. Also, bear in mind (really, no pun intended) that other smelly items - soap, toothpaste, some medicines - need to go inside, also. And, as you use your meals, your garbage needs to go in there, too. (Although, my wife and I can fit all of our garbage for a 3-night trip into a quart-size ziplock bag. Just fold things flat. And, no burning!)
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The problem is that when it is larger the bear has more leverage to break through it, so it has to be disproportionately thicker and heavier. There are several instances out there of BV500s being breached, so they may already be at the limits of that design.
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05/22/2024 04:17PM |
ockycamper: "Why not skip the blue barrel and put the BV500's in a pack? I have several Sealline packs that will hold four BV500's."
I'm talking about skipping the barrel and using the barrel pack, that I have only used twice, to hold two BV475. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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05/31/2024 01:05PM |
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05/17/2024 09:34AM |
billconner: "You can get 143 snicker bars in a BV500. Should be good for 2 weeks +"
LOL. But you do have a point. When I started doing solo trips and worked on efficient packing, I did a lot of learning about caloric density so that I could get the best balance of calories and nutrition in the lightest weight. Paying attention to how many calories per ounce my foods are helps me carry less volume.
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05/15/2024 04:32PM |
plmn: "The problem is that when it is larger the bear has more leverage to break through it, so it has to be disproportionately thicker and heavier. There are several instances out there of BV500s being breached, so they may already be at the limits of that design."
I'll have to agree with you on the probable protection limits of any larger BV designs. Maybe just wishful thinking as the larger sizes do improve the available volume per oz of container weight. (With all 4 models the same diameter, the covers must be identical, which probably accounts for a lot of that. On the other hand, why complain when you can just bring a second one? :-)
Using data from bearvault.com and HikingGuy's rather wildly subjective item capacity "findings":
BV425-Sprint
6” high x 8.7” diameter, 5 L, 1 lb 12 oz (0.18 L/oz)
approx 4 meals, 4 bars
BV450-Jaunt
8.3” high x 8.7” diameter, 7.2 L, 2 lb 1 oz (0.22 L/oz)
approx 5 meals, 6 bars
BV475-Trek
10.5” high x 8.7” diameter, 9.3 L, 2 lb 4 oz (0.26 L/oz)
approx 7 meals, 8 bars
BV500-Journey
12.7” high x 8.7” diameter, 11.5 L, 2 lb 9 oz (0.28 L/oz)
approx 10 meals, 8 bars
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05/15/2024 05:01PM |
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05/21/2024 02:15PM |
billconner: "I can't get the FarOut link to work but iirc those 143 Snickers carry 35,750 calories."
What's it like when you eat that very last snickers? Must be like that last hot dog at Nathan's on the forth. Lol
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05/23/2024 07:58AM |
A1t2o: "What's the best configuration if I still wanted to use my CCS 30L barrel pack with bear vaults? I see that the perimeter of the BV475 on it's side is close to the circumference of a blue barrel, but has anyone tried it? I could fit 2 of those stacked on their side, plus with a little extra gear.
The problem I still see is that each BV475 only holds 9.3L and I currently run into space issues with the 30L barrel. That is, IF it would even fit sideways. I would hate to no longer have a use for my CCS pack"
I don’t know if this helps. I either turn the CCS barrel pack into a kids pack, day pack, or I put one BV500 and do as you said, stuff equipment/gear around the BV500’s. For the BV475 you should be able to stack 2 of then, then pack around.
If packing the BV in a regular pack they are best packed on top. They are dense in weight and packs are more comfortable when the heavier stuff is closer to the top.
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05/17/2024 06:14PM |
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05/21/2024 06:07PM |
tumblehome: "billconner: "I can't get the FarOut link to work but iirc those 143 Snickers carry 35,750 calories."
What's it like when you eat that very last snickers? Must be like that last hot dog at Nathan's on the forth. Lol"
Can't even imagine.
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05/22/2024 05:45AM |
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05/14/2024 06:41AM |
Helpful video for home much food fits in a Bear Vault.
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05/20/2024 06:09PM |
Q: "Would larger BVs be difficult to design to meet IGBC standards? If possible, many of us would love to see a BV600, or even larger. Currently, we need to be content with bringing multiple BV500s on our longer canoe trips into the BWCAW."
A: "There are technical limitations on the manufacturing process and design that compromise bear resistance once the canister exceeds a certain size. We have been exploring some options to provide additional storage space for canoe campers like yourself but do not have anything at this time."
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05/15/2024 10:00AM |