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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Gear failures and prevention
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| chessie |
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| Jefflynn06 |
Switched to gravity filters after that and have had no problems. |
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| Bjfinnegan |
- Broken fishing rod that was repaired using a tent pole splint, some sticks as shims, and duct tape. - Tent poles elastic - I think three guys have now had this happen after 6-7 years of use. REI, Big Agnes, and MSR. Luckily it was a $15 fix to redo mine with about an hour of time. - Inflatable pillow failures. Easy to use your clothes bag. This year I happened to have an extra Nemo Filo Elite that I don't like with me for a guy when his leaked. - Hammock - it was an ultralight for leisure only, but had a couple tears near one of the gathering points from abrasion. Lucky to have not injured a wrist when it failed over rocks. Prevention: The BRS stove is any easy very small stove to carry as redundancy if you use IsoPro cans, and only like $15. Extra water filter. Avoid JetBoil for universal use. Obvious things like gear aid patches, repair kits, duct tape, super glue, etc. |
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| A1t2o |
Sanitizing your water filter after every trip is important, cleaning your stove and checking the parts, sharpening blades and hooks, replacing fishing line yearly, untangling all the ropes, repacking gear that may not have been stored as it's supposed to be, ensuring anything that needs to be charged is 100% before the trip, and more. I usually do a process before and after every trip to ensure I have everything and it works. Some of the above I do before OR after the trip, some I do both. Then I give everything a once over as I pack as well to ensure that I didn't miss anything. I tend to get a little particular when I am making sure I have everything. |
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| Thabstarbod |
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| EddyTurn |
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| ThePeregrine |
I recently completed my first solo trip. My very first night I decided to boil some water to rehydrate my first meal of the trip. I fired up my MSR Wisperlite Universal stove using a brand new 8oz isobutane canister. While digging through my Ursak for the meal I wanted I heard a "woosh" sound. I looked up and my fuel canister was engulfed in flames a foot high or more. I grabbed the stove by the fuel line and tossed it into the lake. After inspection, I found there is a nut on the fuel line near the canister connection that was loose. Enough fuel must have leaked out to be ignited by the burner, turning my canister into a giant lantern. I tightened the nut and the stove and canister worked for the next 5 days. I had no idea the nut could come loose or lead to such a result. The incident got me thinking about what other unexpected failures I might run into. Please share your experiences so that others may learn and prevent similar outcomes. |
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| 4keys |
We tripped in mid May this year and had a few failures. Usually we don’t have any issues. 1)We always take 2 stoves. This year the Coleman exponent would not light, still need to figure out why. 2) Then on one of our exped pads, the glue on the center baffle gave out, so the center was 2 inches higher than the rest. Not the best sleeping conditions. ( exped is replacing the pad! Nice service! ). 3) on our tent, the little plastic clip that holds the 2 poles together in an x at the top broke (user error, but really, plastic?). We did a temp fix with duct tape (Marmot can’t send us that small piece, guessing they switched to aluminum, but they are giving us credit to purchase new poles with the redesigned clip- again, great service on an older tent). 4) our sons tent, which has seen a lot of use, started leaking along a roof seam. Not good in 40 degrees and heavy rain. Sort of did a temp fix by placing a tarp between the fly and tent. 5) my raincoat developed a small hole on the inside layer between the shoulders. Just kept me wet enough to be damp all week. Hopefully we have all our gear failures over with! |
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| deerfoot |
My only notable failure was an old (probably at least 30 years) propane suitcase stove valve that decided to not work on an October trip to the UP. My nephew who was back from 2 years in AmeriCorps and very handy with patching up old worn-out equipment, which AmeriCorps had a lot of, disassembled the valve and with a bit of aluminum foil got it to work. It would only run full-out but at least we could use it. The lesson I took from this was to test run my stove before departing on a trip and I also bring a compact twig stove on all trips. |
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| boonie |
I have a list of things I check/test before my trip. Tent, pad, sleeping bag, stove/fuel, tarp, electronics, zippers, lighters, expired first aid/personal items. I also use an extensive packing checklist. |
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| straighthairedcurly |
2) My newish sleeping pad had a major leak when I pulled it out of its bag this spring on a canoe race. Turns out it looks like it was slit with a knife and I have no idea how or when. I had just used it a month before and it was fine. Must have happened somehow when it was being dried in the garage. Lesson: blow your pad up before you go no matter what and carry plenty of repair tape even when trying to travel light for a race. 3) A 4 year old tent had blown out pole bungie cords which we discovered the first night of an 8 day trip. We were able to do a work around in the field but it was annoying. 4) Before I learned that you should put electrical tape over all "waterproof" plugs on rechargeable devices, I had a SPOT Gen 3 malfunction due to water ingress. It lit up the SOS button when it failed and scared the s*** out of me that SAR was coming to find me. I boogied out of the BW a day early to contact my husband to reassure him. Fortunately, it was a false alarm. Lesson: Cover all rubber plugs with electrical tape That's about it. |
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| blackdawg9 |
we switched to a svea 123 slant valve , no needle, its bullet proof and toss in a msr pocket rocket and a small can or 2 of fuel stashed. if i was taking a whisperlight , i would take a xtra pump. i dont know what the issue is, i've had with batteries lately, but my good flashlights made of alunimin , seem to have batteries start corroding almost immediately. is it heat or humidity? IDK, but never had the same issue with headlamps or cr123 batteries. |
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| Bamthor |
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| AlexanderSupertramp |
For me personally, the Katadyn BeFree fails/clogs pretty much every time I use it, almost immediately, I dont know why I paid money for that filter setup. |
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| boonie |
People were having trouble with the old Katadyns years ago (15+) because they weren't field-maintainable by back flushing. I've had good luck with most others - Sawyer, Platypus, HydroBlu, etc. |
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| fadersup |
straighthairedcurly: "1) Had a mouse chew a hole in the top of our tent one night...who can blame him, it was a nasty cold and rainy night. We were able to repair it with the stash of repair tape I had along. Lesson: If you hear chewing sounds in the night, ignore your husband when he tells you its nothing and that you should just go back to sleep...LOL. “ What the huh?? What a story! |
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| ThePeregrine |
A companion of mine also had his tent fail (pole broke, rainfly destroyed) in an epic severe thunderstorm in June 2014 or 2015. I don't know how my tent survived, and I don't think there is much one can do to prepare for that type of wind except buy the best tent you can afford. |
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| PabloKabo |
Anyway, I was testing a stove my father and I had used many many years before for a backpacking trip. It is a tiny military stove that burns white gas (or just about anything else I think). Anyway, it started up just as I had remembered and burned well for the most part. I ran it wide open as well as at the best "simmer" the stove could muster. As I was powering it down - I had just extinguished the flame, I heard a little hissing sound coming from the stove. I noticed a small jet of liquid spraying from the bottom of the fuel tank. It was gas! Fortunately, it didn't ignite. After the stove had cooled, I relieved the pressure and emptied the tank. There was a small pinhole where rust had eaten away at a small part of the fuel tank. I never expected that! Besides that incident which could have been a horribly dangerous incident out on a campout, we've had a nut come loose on the canoe's thwart, or forgotten stakes for a screen tarp. Nothing too bad. |
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| salukiguy |
My friend brought an aluminum canoe that he knew had been hit by a falling tree. He neglected to leak check it and it leaked for the whole trip. He mitigated it by placing his packs on to logs to keep them above water and occasional bailing. On the same trip a storm blew that canoe away and we lost it overnight at a campsite above basswood falls. Luckily the wind blew it the other way instead of over the falls. |
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| Argo |
colddriver: "I don't put fresh batteries in anything until I'm at camp, had headlight turn In The pack. I had spares but that's not how I wanted to use them. Lesson learned for me." A lot of headlamps have a built in failsafe for this possibility. Set it before you pack. |
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| BdubyaCA |
Jefflynn06: "My wife and I were out with a student group one year when my water filter became so clogged that it only spit water out the release valve and the handle of the back up pump broke (two different pump types). We attempted to clean the clogged pump and repair the broken handle with just about every fix we could think of. They worked a bit but not nearly enough for a group of 9. We tried boiling water lover the fire - resulted in smoky water that was undrinkable. Didn't want to burn the fuel canisters either. Luckily, had water purifying tablets with as option number 3. only one filter for a group of 9? thats a bold move! |
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| billconner |
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| RunningFox |
Always bring an extra rod and reel. Always bring a Steri Pen in addition to my Katadyn Base Camp water filter. And I carry two stoves (Colman two burner plus MSR windpro), plus I carry a Purcell trench grill. As has been said, in the wilderness one is none, and two is one. |
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| Jefflynn06 |
BdubyaCA: "Jefflynn06: "My wife and I were out with a student group one year when my water filter became so clogged that it only spit water out the release valve and the handle of the back up pump broke (two different pump types). We attempted to clean the clogged pump and repair the broken handle with just about every fix we could think of. They worked a bit but not nearly enough for a group of 9. We tried boiling water lover the fire - resulted in smoky water that was undrinkable. Didn't want to burn the fuel canisters either. Luckily, had water purifying tablets with as option number 3. We did have two pumps. One became clogged and the handle of the second one broke. And brought purifying tablets as option 3. |
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| sns |
This was day 5 of 9. We simply cut some log rounds from deadfall and wedged them under the seat. Finished the trip that way. Now I have to make the repair... |
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| deerfoot |
blackdawg9: "we had a coleman 442 stove completely lock up and fail. the internal cleaning needly let go and lodged in the orifice. I have wondered about leaking batteries also. I think it is the batteries themselves and I avoid Ray-O-Vac batteries which seem to leak quickly and into everything I have used them in. It’s been quite a while but I remember when all batteries were guaranteed against leakage and the manufacturer would supposedly replace your damaged item. |