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Argo
05/30/2025 07:00AM
 
portagerunner: "Argo: "NMJim: "I firmly believe the most essential item is a good pee bottle. Takes the bite out of those middle o' the night calls. 32 oz, wide mouth Nalgene works for me."
The only downside I have regarding switching to hammock camping is the inability to use a pee bottle."

I thought this was a positive. No bottle required, just be careful where you put your shoes."

Outside of mosquito season it's good. And particularly in the rain, you can just go to the edge of the tarp and let it go. But when thick mosquitoes are about, I'd rather not have to exit my shelter. And as God is my witness, I don't know how you use a pee bottle in a hammock.
 
Ahahn366
05/24/2025 09:00PM
 
Less is best, but a good coffee cup is critical
 
Basketcase
05/24/2025 05:09PM
 
Also, stay organized at camp. Keep things where they need to be kept and put them back when you are done. I don’t know how much time I’ve spent helping my buddies find their lost equipment.
 
OCDave
05/25/2025 06:03PM
 
I have never used an Outfitter, but I once trusted a travel partner to bring the toilet paper for a trip. I no longer trust anyone else to chose the toilet paper I'll use for a week in the wilderness.
 
scat
05/25/2025 07:15PM
 
Wow, I went on an Outward Bound canoe trip on the 11 point River in Arkansas/Missouri and we had no toilet paper provided. It was like minimalism to the maximum. Took a couple days to get the hang of using leaves…
Just get a good list, collect your stuff, check it off & you will be fine. It’s not really rocket science. Put a half roll of TP in a ziplock haha.
Cheers have fun. scat
 
Traveler
05/26/2025 09:45AM
 
All good advice. My advice is to enjoy thinking about it and planning but don't worry about it. All you really need is a good attitude, and a pfd.


Whatever else you might not have you can live without for a few great days in the woods.
 
Striboutdoors
05/22/2025 03:43PM
 
Hi everyone! I'll be going on my first BWCA trip and am planning to go through an outfitter. Curious to know if there are any things people recommend to bring that an outfitter may not provide. Or maybe stuff that the outfitters provide that I should leave behind.
Also curious to know what everyone takes along for food.
 
boonie
05/22/2025 06:30PM
 
I've always self-outfitted except for a canoe or pack occasionally. Most outfitters provide a list of what they provide and what they don't that you should bring. What's provided and what's not may vary from one outfitter to another. You'll have to bring your clothes and other personal items.


If you'd like we could look at the outfitter's lists for you - what outfitter are using? There are things I'd leave behind but others might not. We could also examine your list of clothes and personal items and provide suggestions.


Apparently you're just getting the equipment and not the food from the outfitter . . . ?


When are you going? How many of you? How many days and how far? Experience level, fitness level, etc. ? These things could impact the selections.


Food is a somewhat personal preference thing, but I simplified mine quite a lot over the years, especially as I started taking longer trips and going solo. Cold cereal, instant coffee, nuts, ProBar meal bars, dehydrated dinners.


If you email me I can send you some general info I've sent to family and friends going with me or going on their own.





 
soundguy0918
05/30/2025 10:40AM
 
A few items that I bring that might not be on your outfitter's packing list...
Sacred socks - a pair of socks dedicated for inside the tent/sleeping bag, always clean and dry.
Campsite shoes - I prefer moccasins but others swear by crocs or Tevas
Extra-fine tip Sharpie - for recording smudge-proof notes on your maps
Lightweight insulated coffee cup - I use a Corky Cup


Have a great trip!
 
Argo
05/29/2025 07:06AM
 
NMJim: "I firmly believe the most essential item is a good pee bottle. Takes the bite out of those middle o' the night calls. 32 oz, wide mouth Nalgene works for me."


The only downside I have regarding switching to hammock camping is the inability to use a pee bottle.
 
buz
05/29/2025 09:05AM
 
Simple ones- I bring like a 4 x 6 foot piece of plastic sheeting, put rocks on corners, can put whatever on it, mainly kitchen stuff, keeps it off the ground, lots cleaner.


I put all meals in some sort of "bag", like for like, all breakfasts together, lunches, and dinners in separate spaces. Easiest is to use plastic bags, but lightweight cloth duffels work as well. This is more important the bigger the group, makes finding the right stuff way easier.
 
portagerunner
05/29/2025 09:39AM
 
Argo: "NMJim: "I firmly believe the most essential item is a good pee bottle. Takes the bite out of those middle o' the night calls. 32 oz, wide mouth Nalgene works for me."



The only downside I have regarding switching to hammock camping is the inability to use a pee bottle."



I thought this was a positive. No bottle required, just be careful where you put your shoes.
 
alpinebrule
06/13/2025 04:18PM
 
soundguy0918:
Sacred socks - a pair of socks dedicated for inside the tent/sleeping bag, always clean and dry.
Campsite shoes - Lightweight insulated coffee cup -

Agree with the socks, but I like "holy socks" better (please excuse the pun) and the insulated cup.
 
Basketcase
05/23/2025 03:11PM
 
I also have a Google doc I could share. I self-outfit as well and have been twice to the BWCAW.


Get a food dehydrator (purchasing meals can be very expensive) and start looking for gear on geartrade.com. They have barely used equipment.
 
straighthairedcurly
05/25/2025 10:44PM
 
While I have never used an outfitter except to rent a 3-person canoe, I've seen the kit they set people up with and it seems like too much gear compared to what I bring. I only burn wood that can be broken by hand so I leave the axe and only sometimes bring a small hand saw. I'm also not a food barrel fan (seems like unnecessary weight) but I know others love them. Outfitter gear tends to be heavier in general because they have to buy gear that will hold up to inexperienced people using it.


However, it is a great way to get started and figure out what you like or don't like.


The advice to stay organized is wise. Have a system for stuff sacks (tent, sleeping pad, sleeping bag, etc. I always put all the sleeping gear stuff sacks inside each other and immediately stow them in the tent. Never random things down on the ground by themselves. We carry a small cooking area tarp for the ground and all cooking gear stays on it. That saves us from small items getting set down and lost in random locations.


Never portage with loose items. Water bottles, maps, compasses, cameras are always secured to a pack before we start portaging. Amazing how many of these types of lost items we see from other groups at the start or finish of a portage. Bring bungies to secure fishing gear to the canoe.


For personal items: Bring one set of clothes for day time travel...these should be the only clothes that get wet. Bring a second set of clothes that will be your dry around camp clothes. You do not need new socks, underwear or t-shirts for everyday. That is just too much unnecessary weight. Make sure to have clothing that still retains warmth when wet.


Have a great trip.
 
alpinebrule
05/26/2025 02:53PM
 
scat: ".. Took a couple days to get the hang of using leaves…
"

Word of advice, as a trip partner of mine said once after an extended sojourn, "do you know how hard it is to find a leaf in pine forest."
TP and an emergency backup. One piece of equipment you don't want to fail.

On a more serious note. I like new thin sock liners for each day or so, like new socks, weigh nothing and take up no space; maybe more of a back backing thing but sill do it in the BWCA. Second, long-underwear, fabric appropriate for the season, for inside your sleeping bag. Especially if renting, keeps the bag cleaner and if you have to make a middle of the night sojourn makes it much more pleasant.
 
OCDave
05/26/2025 05:15PM
 
scat: "Wow, I went on an Outward Bound canoe trip on the 11 point River in Arkansas/Missouri and we had no toilet paper provided. It was like minimalism to the maximum. Took a couple days to get the hang of using leaves…
Just get a good list, collect your stuff, check it off & you will be fine. It’s not really rocket science. Put a half roll of TP in a ziplock haha.
Cheers have fun. scat"



My own Outward Bound experience was Dog sledding out of Ely. Also no TP on that trip but mastery of the "snow cleanse" is pretty intuitive.
 
NMJim
05/28/2025 07:33PM
 
I firmly believe the most essential item is a good pee bottle. Takes the bite out of those middle o' the night calls. 32 oz, wide mouth Nalgene works for me.