Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: Bear Hang Rope
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Frenchy19 |
quote Longpaddler: "Depends on how heavy the bear is......" Nice! Another one who no longer hangs. |
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JackpineJim |
1)Pre-rig the end of one rope with a carabiner clipped to a pulley, and the other rope with only a carabiner. 2)Fold the rope about 12' up the from the pulley and place in the notched end of the pole and lift the rope over a little stub of a branch right next to the tree trunk as high as you can reach. (You only need a small stub to support the weight of the pack when the rope is against the trunk.) You will be pulling the pack away from the tree so it works best if the branch is on the opposite side of the tree than you intend to pull the pack. 3)Now thread the rope with carabiner through the pulley and adjust ropes so the pulley hangs about 10' from the branch and tie off the pulley rope. 4)Use a short piece of rope to tie the Wall Hauler to a tree a little above head high and route the loose end of the 'carabiner rope' through the Wall Hauler. (the carabiner on other end should be hanging from the pulley and just touching the ground. 5)Attache food pack to carabiner. 6)Pull pack off the ground until it is stopped by the pulley and pull as far away from 'hanging tree'as possible and so it is at least 10 off the ground. (you might have to go back to step '3' and readjust until you get the hang of it, NPI) While I may not have done a great job of writing the instructions, it works great, especially for base camping. The benefits are: 1)Using the stick to hang the rope works EVERY TIME - no repeated tossing of a weight, 2)Nearly every tree has a stub branch that will support the pack. 3)One guy can raise the pack very easily, 4)With the Wall Hauler, you just pull. When the pack is lifted to where you want it you just stop pulling and let go - no strain to keep pressure on the rope while tying it off. 5) comes down as easily as it goes up. In this pic you can see the the red rope with the Wall Hauler at the upper right edge of photo. Also, just visible through the spruce branches, are the carabiner and pulley against the pack. The jack pine tree at the left edge of the photo is the 'hanging tree' and the tree with the Wall Hauler tied to it is just off the frame. |
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wetcanoedog |
by the way the only time i have taken a fall in camp was walking backward while getting ready to heave the line!!! |
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Mort |
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fitgers1 |
I put the 3/8" rope through a carabineer to pull the pack up. I use a slightly larger rope to hold the caribineer up. I have no idea what it is made out of. Poly, nylon, something like that. It is the rope that Mills Fleet Farm sells in their farm section - a bunch of different sizes and colors, made in USA stuff. I use the same type of rope only 1/4" for tarps and everything else. Yep, time to re-look at my rope! I might be able to save some weight or bring more steaks! In the past, we would bring a 5 gallon igloo water cooler to keep a lot of fresh food. Over the last couple years, I have downsized to a 2.5 maybe 3 gallon cooler in a 60 l blue barrel. This coming summer I want to go more dehydrated so I think I will be able to downsize the rope. |
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OldieMoldy |
Just wondering... Rob |
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GSP |
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tnthekids |
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Ragged |
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Ragged |
quote tnthekids: "Thanks so much for the input! How many feet of rope do you usually bring?" Well I have been bringing 3 of those 30ft bundles, one or two to run the pulley up and the third for the pack. I've been good so far but I'm sure I'll have to compromise my hang one of these times. This stuff is a little on the stiff side, not super soft like those cheaper poly ropes, but like Kanoes said it has almost no stretch, packs pretty small. This stuff is crazy strong, 5mm - 5000+ lbs |
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Savage Voyageur |
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Ragged |
quote Savage Voyageur: " Rope This is what I like for hanging the food pack. I bought a 100 feet as I remember. Cut as needed for other things, never have too much rope with. " Nice stuff, if the OP likes a little thicker rope this would be a great choice, a little more bulk, little more weight, little more cost but can be had in whatever length you want and thats nice, also a little stronger. |
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Royce |
100' and 30' pieces. Sometimes have to attach in some paracord, seems to be just a hair short once in awhile. Wrap rope around axe handle to get a good grip if needed/ |
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MagicPaddler |
Part numbers 615273 615268 |
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jcavenagh |
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tnthekids |
quote Ragged: "I use a 5mm cord made by New England, rated for over 1000 lbs, not too thick not to thin, I also use a small and lightweight Petzl Pulley " Thanks so much for the input! How many feet of rope do you usually bring? |
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LuvMyBell |
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kanoes |
quote tnthekids: "quote Ragged: "I use a 5mm cord made by New England, rated for over 1000 lbs, not too thick not to thin, I also use a small and lightweight Petzl Pulley " the cord ragged linked is very nice. stiff with minimal stretch. |
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Mort |
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orion64 |
For the record...this is the year I go to the other side and will no longer hang my food! Bob |
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pswith5 |
quote kanoes: "another hand saver would be wrapping the rope around a short but stout stick and walk away while pulling the bag up."I do this with a small diameter kevlar cord! But the small stuff tangles a little easily. |
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MagicPaddler |
It weighs 1 Lb 2.7 oz The yellow string is my zingit kit. Put a rock in the bag and throw it over a lim and pull the other ropes over. The line on the pullies is 80Ft of 2mm braded nylon. The support line is parachute cord. The pullies are form Ronstan series 20 double blocks Mostly off the top of the picture is the stuff sack it all fits in. Everything pictured here but the rug weighs 1 LB 2.7 oz. I have load tested the block and tackle by lifting myself. That put 150 LB on the block and tackle and an additional 38LB on the line I was pulling on. All the food bags for the groups I go with have weighed under 100LB. YOU MUST WARE LEATHER GLOVES to handle these lines. |
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buz |
As you see, various ways to hang. But IMO, if you have a bigger group, real food, say 5 day trip or more, use some pulleys. Two pulleys, (one on food bag, one on main line) makes hauling up a snap with heavy loads. The main line needs to be non nylon rope, and long, around 100 feet, or capable of that length with additions. Hauling up rope can be nylon, and shorter, say 25 feet. Haul rope is better thicker, easier on hands. Use a stick as noted is a good tip as well. Marine stores sell really nice pulleys in general. |
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Frenchy |
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oldgentleman |
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TheBrownLeader |
This is by far the simplest, easiest way to get a comforting hang. |
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Frenchy |
I have always used the two pulley system. I hang it from a rope hung between two trees. With 3/8 in rope from Mills Fleet Farm, it is easy to pull up a pretty heavy pack. The pulleys are also available from Fleet Farm. |
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AndySG |
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