Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Gear Forum :: filter in bottle
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Grandma L |
Sawyer bottle with filter and back flush syringe |
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Frenchy19 |
quote Grandma L: "Sawyer does it for you if you are not as DIY as Butthead. I forgot I had one of these until reading this post. Now I need to find it... |
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OldFingers57 |
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butthead |
quote OldFingers57: "Looks like I'm going to have to keep an eye out at the thrift stores for some Camelback bottles to do this with. I wish this had been posted before this past weekend as I was up in Madison, WI and saw lots of these bottles at the Goodwill stores there. " Or just go with lid with straw, the cap fits on widemouth bottles like my Nalgenes and CamelBaks (I have a few HydroFlask insulated growlers). butthead |
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OldFingers57 |
quote butthead: "quote OldFingers57: "Looks like I'm going to have to keep an eye out at the thrift stores for some Camelback bottles to do this with. I wish this had been posted before this past weekend as I was up in Madison, WI and saw lots of these bottles at the Goodwill stores there. " Again, Too little too late. I was at the REI garage sale this past weekend in Madison and saw a couple of these for around $1-2. Didn't know they would fit on a Nalgene as I would have gotten them. Figured they were for sized to fit on some other brand. My wife found all sorts of stuff to get clothes wise whereas all I could find was a pair of Smartwool ski socks in my size. Everything else was too small or too big. |
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Alan Gage |
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ockycamper |
The best method in my book is Sawyer bottles for everyone to use when underway. Platypus base camp for use in camp. No need for carrying several water bottles each when paddling that way. |
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pswith5 |
quote hooky: "I'm sorry. I thought this was a thread about Police songs from 1979."that would be "message" in a bottle. :) beat me to it. |
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hooky |
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butthead |
. Had a few flip top bottles, the filter just spliced right in. Even if bought new the combo is priced comparatively with LifeStraw, and MyBottle filter bottles with longer filter life and more usability. Straw/flip top caps for wide mouth Nalgene style bottles can be found for less than $10 new, making a bottle filter system easy and inexpensive to make. CamelBak, Nalgene, HydroFlask, all have the same cap size and thread. butthead |
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butthead |
While I was dipping pictured bottle mid lake, the light bulb went off! Get it out of the pack, put it to work on the water and trail. butthead |
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KevinL |
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schweady |
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boonie |
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OldFingers57 |
quote BobDobbs: "have you experienced hard to clean mold in this bottle? I've amazoned it just now and lots of 1 star reviews for that reason." Anything can have that happen if you don't clean it and thoroughly dry it before storing. I have never had a problem with mine. |
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OldFingers57 |
quote BobDobbs: "quote OldFingers57: "quote BobDobbs: "have you experienced hard to clean mold in this bottle? I've amazoned it just now and lots of 1 star reviews for that reason." No I'm not cleaning it every day when out canoeing. We are usually out for 7 to10 days and I've had no problems with mold during that time. I think people are having mold prowith it from using it daily at home and work and never ever washing it. I imagine the mold is up in the inside of the rubber/silicone straw part that people drink from. |
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MrBadExample |
Might rig this up for my fall trip. As long as my bride doesn't notice her camelback is missing :) |
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BobDobbs |
quote OldFingers57: "quote BobDobbs: "have you experienced hard to clean mold in this bottle? I've amazoned it just now and lots of 1 star reviews for that reason." are you cleaning every day? We normally trip 9-11 days and move every day. I'm wondering how much time I'd spend on cleaning something like this vs the convenience of not having to break out the gravity filter while on the move. |
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jcavenagh |
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FOG51 |
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bhouse46 |
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butthead |
quote FOG51: " was wondering if I put some milo drink mix in the bottle and suck it up will I taste the milo or will it just taste like lake water? Thanks FRED " Did try it with Cherry KoolAid . Taste come thru filter fine as well as color, versus my FirstNeed which filters out both flavor and all color (side by side test). I haven't used it enough to tell how long it will draw well before needing a flushing. butthead |
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Grandma L |
I now have a new 1,000 ml Camelback bottle with straw - waiting for spring to be turned into a DIY filter bottle for the grandkid's trip. |
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BnD |
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butthead |
Drinks just like sucking thru a straw, if it gets difficult back-flush the filter. Tried it and it draws about the same as my Camelbak's do. And yes the idea is not new, filter bottles are available. I had the bottles and straw caps, added a Mini filter kit for $18, cheap and multi function. butthead |
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Alan Gage |
quote BnD: "Question....how is it to drink from. Strange question however the reason I haven't pulled the trigger on one these previously is all the negative reviews on how much suction was required to drink from real filter bottles. I tend to grab large quick drinks and paddle/fish on. I really like the idea of just dipping and drinking safely rather using my katadyn pump off and on all day. It's harder than sucking through a plain old straw. Like you I don't generally sip my water, rather I gulp it down about 12 ounces at a time. But I took a Sawyer bottle on a 30 day trip last summer/fall and got along fine with it. It gradually gets harder and harder to suck through until you back flush it (I back flushed at 2 1/2 weeks). The slow water uptake was only a small annoyance. I just had to remind myself to drink more often since I was taking in smaller amounts. The original plan was to use the filter inside the bottle during the day and at night move the filter over to bags for a gravity setup in camp. I guess I got along fine with the bottle because I never bothered setting up the gravity system. Anything I drank came from the bottle and anything I cooked with came straight from the lake/river. Alan |
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gsfisher13 |
quote Frenchy19: "quote Grandma L: "Sawyer does it for you if you are not as DIY as Butthead. The advantage of the sawyer bottle, and I've used this for the past 6 years is that the bottle is soft sided and you can squeeze it to help push water through the "straw and filter" in addition to sucking water out. I don't know if camelback and Nalgene can do that. |
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ducks |
I already have a mini that I use as a backup and for on the go when my water bottle goes empty. We also have some camelback bottles at our house. I may try it for my next trip. The little bag that comes with the mini was a pain to try and fill when I needed a drink on the go after I went though my main water bottle. It it works I could have a water bottle filter for on the go filtering without spending any more money. Thanks butthead |
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Alan Gage |
quote AmarilloJim: "With the Sawyer bottle do you have to unscrew the cap to let in air every few ounces?" No, it has a one way check valve to let air in. Alan |
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MrBadExample |
Did you have a longer tube setup for gravity? Did the tubing wear out quickly from moving the filter back and forth? |
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MrBadExample |
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butthead |
It's as difficult as backflushing the Mini filter. Did you have a longer tube setup for gravity? Of couse, and a softer more flexable silicone tube Did the tubing wear out quickly from moving the filter back and forth? Not in my useage. As I pointed out I do not use it since going to a Trailshot filter/pump. butthead |
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boonie |
quote OldFingers57: "quote boonie: "Personally, if I had to buy all the separate components, I'd not see any sense in doing that vs. just buying the Sawyer Bottle and being done with it . . . ?" That's certainly worth it, if his situation is comparable to yours and he has any of the components, but if he doesn't have any of that . . . ? And can't find a cheap used bottle at Goodwill? And for the life of me, I can't figure out what he considers more versatile about it compared to the Sawyer . . . ? The question about removing the label on the Sawyer mini filter certainly leads me to believe he doesn't have that filter. I'm not trying to be argumentative - I just don't understand exactly what he's trying to do and why. |
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WBFox |
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boonie |
I use it for drinking on the go like you plan, instead of carrying water and/or having to stop and filter, and that is very convenient. I also use the mini as a gravity system (plenty of YouTubes on that) or squeeze system with the Sawyer bags. It also will screw onto most standard water bottles that you buy. The mini is field maintainable by back flushing and has a relatively long life. If you buy the Sawyer Mini with the bags and syringe, the bottle of your choice, and some appropriate tubing, you should be good to go with all the flexibility you want for multiple uses. I also took a look at the Katadyn BeFree after a recent review here, since it offered some possible benefits - smaller, lighter, easier to clean, and fill - but ultimately decided against it due to concerns about the durability of the bag, shorter filter life, and less flexibility. Let us know how it all works out for you. |
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butthead |
quote WBFox: "To give you more background, I'm thinking of several uses for this. Besides trips to the BWCA, I also do some hiking and flyfishing. I've been looking at some options there to be able to easily stop and fill water versus carrying it in, such as using the Katadyn BeFree water bottle/bag and filter. But it 's floppy and the filter only works with those bottles/bags. I also have an international trip coming up and want to filter the water before drinking it vs. buying bottled water. That's what caught my attention about the Sawyer Water Bottle and Filter. But I wanted more flexibility with the bottle and design and that's why I started looking for another water bottle option to use with the Sawyer Mini. Plus I can use the Sawyer Mini in other ways besides inside this water bottle. I also like to DIY solutions. Everyone has been very helpful and I appreciate the information and advice. Thank you." You just described my intentions on putting together this filter/bottle set. And used it comfortably for a year. I had the parts. Could have bought a Sawyer Personal Bottle Filter and had the same thing without DIY work. Now I use a MSR Trailshot, even more versatile! thread about MSR Trailshot butthead |
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jcavenagh |
quote boonie: "Yep, a DIY version of the Sawyer Water Filter Bottle, which I have found so convenient." Me, too. Filtering while travelling is so easy. And you can have a drink at the end of the portage...when it is most needed. |
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OldFingers57 |
quote WBFox: "Sorry, I'm a little confused now. Do you want a Camelbak Eddy with the wider diameter tube, something that is about 7/16" outer diameter? Or is it one with the smaller size diameter tube, something that is about 5/16" outer diameter? Thank you." You want one with the wider tubing to it. Otherwise you won't be able to slide the filter into the tubing. |
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boonie |
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HighnDry |
quote Grandma L: "Sawyer does it for you if you are not as DIY as Butthead. |
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OldFingers57 |
quote boonie: "Personally, if I had to buy all the separate components, I'd not see any sense in doing that vs. just buying the Sawyer Bottle and being done with it . . . ?" It only cost me $1.88 for a Camelbak bottle at Goodwill store. I already had the Sawyer Mini and the tubing is with the bottle. |
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boonie |
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butthead |
Not quite. Several brand flip top lids will fit a wide mouth Camelback. Have used Nalgeen and Hydroflask bottles with Camelback and Hydroflask flip lids. Need a tube that fits tight and is somewhat rigid so it does not collapse. Made mine from extra parts and pieces that I had. Nothing a bit of trial and error work can't accomplish. butthead PS: I would not spend anything on making another, if you have the parts it does make a handy filter. But if you need to buy a Sawyer Mini and a bottle with lid. Other options abound. bh |
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OldFingers57 |
quote butthead: ""Only works with the Camelbak bottles as other generic bottles like that use a smaller tube." Yes But I have found a lot of the bottles that are not a Camelbak, the lid will not take a tube that is the correct diameter to fit a Mini onto it. They are smaller diameter tubes and the lid takes a smaller diameter tube and you can't use a larger one on them. Camelbak lids work the best. Although I have seen some that do take a smaller size diameter tube to them too. I'm not sure if they are newer or older models. I'm just suggesting that people check the bottles out first to see if the Sawyer Mini will fit on the tubing before they buy one whether it is a Camelbak or a generic brand of lid. |
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HighnDry |
quote boonie: "Yep, a DIY version of the Sawyer Water Filter Bottle, which I have found so convenient." +1. |
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WBFox |
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boonie |
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BnD |
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WBFox |
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OldFingers57 |
quote WBFox: "So is it as simple as cutting a straw down inside a water bottle, such as a Camelbak Eddy, and attaching a Sawyer Mini filter to the straw to fit? No other fixes? Thanks in advance. Only works with the Camelbak bottles as other generic bottles like that use a smaller tube. Also some of the Camelbak bottles have a smaller tube to them. So watch which one you get. Check at Goodwill stores as that is where I have found my Camelbaks to do this with. |