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01/01/2017 01:01PM |
The cv pads are good if set up good. You have to play with them a bit to see where they work best. Best yoke was the one I fashioned from the cliff Jacobson yoke in one of his books. It was on a 65# Old Town Pathfinder. Made my own block pads.
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01/02/2017 12:57AM |
Had two versions of the CV pedestal yoke fail- on one a piece of metal broke on the next one of the welds failed. The current CV yoke has a slight unevenness in the clamp, so one side of the seat rail is not gripped as firmly as the other causing the yoke to shift when stressed- if I clamp it hard enough so it doesn't shift it flattens the seat rails and the moveable seat becomes very difficult to move.
The strange metal flange yoke
took 23 years of heavy use before it failed (The CV yokes both failed within a year- I live in northern MN and spend about 6 weeks a year in the Q and take many, many day paddles when home).
When I found a source for spare parts I resurrected it and leave my CV in the garage.
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12/30/2016 02:46PM |
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01/02/2017 10:41AM |
quote ozarkpaddler: "quote 1JimD: " Here's a couple of pics of the one I used this Fall.
It's similar to the old Bell yoke, except I modified it to work as a backrest also.
I
This yoke works fine with a Duluth type pack. I just need better pads.
Jim"
Now THIS one really looks nice. Add some Bourquin pads, which I already have on another yoke, and it would be perfect. Looks like a nice project?
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Yes ! My pads leave something to be desired ! But the balance is fine. A friend made the straps, and they are Awesome. They hold the yoke in place, while I flip the canoe over, and the snap buckles make it easy to turn around while paddling. I need a few more
Jim
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01/02/2017 09:21AM |
quote 1JimD: " Here's a couple of pics of the one I used this Fall.
It's similar to the old Bell yoke, except I modified it to work as a backrest also.
I
This yoke works fine with a Duluth type pack. I just need better pads.
Jim"
Now THIS one really looks nice. Add some Bourquin pads, which I already have on another yoke, and it would be perfect. Looks like a nice project?
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01/02/2017 02:13PM |
quote ozarkpaddler: "quote 1JimD: " Here's a couple of pics of the one I used this Fall.
It's similar to the old Bell yoke, except I modified it to work as a backrest also.
I
This yoke works fine with a Duluth type pack. I just need better pads.
Jim"
Now THIS one really looks nice. Add some Bourquin pads, which I already have on another yoke, and it would be perfect. Looks like a nice project?
That's what I'm leaning towards - a home made seat mounted yoke - I like the swing and bungee approach - and use my pads from my tandem - the typical outtfitter pads.
I am glad I asked and thankful to all that offered comments.
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12/29/2016 09:50AM |
The previous solo I rented was frustrating because of they were low - just yoke and pads - and thwart interfered with pack. I was wondering of peoples thoughts on the Chosen Valley Raised Sling Pads, if the extend height helped or made it harder.
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12/29/2016 12:57PM |
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12/29/2016 02:38PM |
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12/29/2016 03:09PM |
My old faithful yoke.
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12/30/2016 04:45PM |
Another home made one
Thanks.
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12/30/2016 05:35PM |
quote billconner: "Well, I'm very glad I asked. This is all helpful and since I have the basic "block" pads for my tandem, I just need a yoke I can clamp the on. I liked the seat mounted yokes - maybe these are same but though I saw plans for one that clipped to seat and hinged out of the way - but seems like a home made yoke is in my future.
Another home made one
Thanks."
Bill, I like the design of that plan. I used a bungie cord to replace the wood/plastic dial knob clamps although that's a clever adaptation.
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12/30/2016 06:51PM |
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12/30/2016 09:52PM |
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12/29/2016 07:53PM |
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12/29/2016 08:45PM |
quote Blatz: "I also had the one pictured. Bought it from the guy who made it probably 30 years ago. I like it, but the cotter pins where a pain in the arse"
I leave the pins and metal tabs in (they flop down along the inside of the canoe when not in use) between the aluminum and the natural flex in the hull I can get the yoke off and on easily. The only time I take the pins and tabs out is when the canoe is on my car.
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12/30/2016 08:49AM |
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12/30/2016 07:46AM |
Will remark on Chosen Valley Sling pads, both regular and extended height. They can bite into shoulders at the wire framing, and are wiggly feeling when carrying. They came on my Chosen Valley cantilever yoke and Hidden Valley yoke, I replaced them due to those problems. You may want to try a pair out first to get a feel for them.
butthead
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12/30/2016 10:09AM |
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12/30/2016 10:29AM |
Alan
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12/30/2016 11:33AM |
Here's a picture that I used to make my own design:
Works pretty well although the balance of the canoe is a bit off when I carry it. I usually tie up some weight in the front to get the boat to carry level.
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12/31/2016 02:41PM |
quote billconner: "Part of this will be figuring out the exact location for the yoke. I can obviously find center of gravity, but is that where I want the yoke?"
I made my own yoke for my Magic. I drilled a hole through the each side of the gunwales, and put corresponding locating pins in the yoke. This eliminates the problem I used to have with the yoke slipping during portages, but means that I need to locate my gear so I get the balance I want. My spare paddle is the main ballast I use to get the stern a bit heavy, so I can use one hand to hold the bow down while portaging.
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12/31/2016 02:57PM |
quote billconner: "Part of this will be figuring out the exact location for the yoke. I can obviously find center of gravity, but is that where I want the yoke?"
Bill, I think this goes to the heart of the issue with a seat-based yoke. With one that clips into the seat, the pads and corresponding yoke will sit just forward of the front edge of the canoe seat. For my 15'6" Northwind Solo, I'll pick up the canoe for the carry and the stern will dip. A paddle and a rod or two tied into the bow will allow me to carry the boat more or less level. I couldn't figure out a way without a major revision to the design to move the pads towards the stern. Even a couple of inches would get closer to the center of gravity.
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12/31/2016 05:50PM |
I ordered through the BWJ magazine and you still can do this. They list distributors at the link page too.
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12/31/2016 05:50PM |
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12/31/2016 05:54PM |
Mac
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12/31/2016 07:19PM |
quote MacCamper: "CVCA solo for me. Only had the unit for one year but am very satisfied with its weight and I find the sling comfortable. Easy on and easy off is a bonus too.
Mac"
Do you mean their seat mount yoke? This one?#
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12/31/2016 09:25PM |
quote TomT: "I've used a pair of Bourquin Boat pads for 18 years. They are very well made and comfortable. Bourquin Boat pads
I ordered through the BWJ magazine and you still can do this. They list distributors at the link page too.
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I replaced the sling pads with Bourquin pads and am quite happy.
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01/01/2017 06:07AM |
It's similar to the old Bell yoke, except I modified it to work as a backrest also.
I
This yoke works fine with a Duluth type pack. I just need better pads.
Jim
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01/01/2017 08:00AM |
quote billconner: "quote MacCamper: "CVCA solo for me. Only had the unit for one year but am very satisfied with its weight and I find the sling comfortable. Easy on and easy off is a bonus too.
Mac"
Do you mean their seat mount yoke? This one?# "
This one.
The only disappointment was that the ends of the thwart were not sealed wth varnish or teak oil. Odd from a quality manufacturer. I tend to double portage and make my first crossing with this OR dry pack
and haven't had an issue catching the thwart. However, my CCS barrel pack would likely snag. Mac
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12/30/2016 12:22PM |
quote HighnDry: "I use this style. I made my own with Duluth pads and stock from the local hardware store.
Here's a picture that I used to make my own design:
Works pretty well although the balance of the canoe is a bit off when I carry it. I usually tie up some weight in the front to get the boat to carry level."
Do you have more pics or details? Looks like a good setup?
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12/30/2016 01:46PM |
quote MagicPaddler: "I had a pair of the Sling pads. They look real good. They carry real bad. Like butthead I no longer use them."
I believe I bought those of ya along with the yoke at Copia a few years ago!
butthead
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12/30/2016 01:47PM |
I like the block pads and laminated yoke myself, only problem I ever had was a cross threading of one of the bolts on the clamp on one side. It seems to me, the block pads get the canoe a smidgen higher in the air, for a little more clearance? Maybe only in my head?
I have had the chosen valley ones, and they work fine, but like the blocks better.
I think it is just a matter of personal preference.
SunCatcher
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12/30/2016 01:59PM |
quote ozarkpaddler: "quote HighnDry: "I use this style. I made my own with Duluth pads and stock from the local hardware store.
Here's a picture that I used to make my own design:
Works pretty well although the balance of the canoe is a bit off when I carry it. I usually tie up some weight in the front to get the boat to carry level."
Do you have more pics or details? Looks like a good setup?
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I'll get a few more pics of it out in the garage. I sized it to my Northwoods Solo seat (fairly standard seat dimensions), bought ash stock and Duluth pads (you can make your own of these if you wish) and built it. I'll try to get some of the measurements here as well so that you can get an idea of how to design/cut the thwart piece and the two side pieces. Once it's done and oiled up, it works well and is easy to drop in and take out when you get to the end of the portage.
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12/30/2016 02:27PM |
quote butthead: "quote MagicPaddler: "I had a pair of the Sling pads. They look real good. They carry real bad. Like butthead I no longer use them."
I believe I bought those of ya along with the yoke at Copia a few years ago!
butthead"
BH
Don’t believe you got them from me. I let them go when I sold a beautiful canoe that handled poorly but it looked sharp with those pads on there. That was the last tandem canoe I owned.
They are light weight pads. May be ok with the thicker pads.
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12/30/2016 02:38PM |
quote ozarkpaddler: "quote HighnDry: "I use this style. I made my own with Duluth pads and stock from the local hardware store.
Here's a picture that I used to make my own design:
Works pretty well although the balance of the canoe is a bit off when I carry it. I usually tie up some weight in the front to get the boat to carry level."
Do you have more pics or details? Looks like a good setup?
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Here are some pics of mine:
