Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Trip Planning Forum :: Bear Reports
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Pinetree |
x2jmorris: "I am so glad to see others say they deep six the remains. It makes complete sense to do that. Turtles and other stuff will eat that up in no time. My old pup that sadly is no longer around would always find the buried fish in the woods and roll in it. Maybe if you could really bury it then it would be alright but everyone only goes like an inch deep." I have zero problem deep six them. You caught them there and returning some of the nutrients. Like mentioned before-do it in deep water and bust the air bladder. |
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missmolly |
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airmorse |
Perhaps having some bear activity will help keep those who should not be there anyway away. |
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BasecampMom |
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anthonyp007 |
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bpneiman |
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Pinetree |
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BigCurrent |
I've never understood the fish remains in the woods rule. That is the one rule I go out of my way to break. When we clean fish, the remains go into the lake. The remains sink, and go back into the lake bed. Why on earth would they recommend putting fish remains in the woods, considering how much of a bear attractant they are? |
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LindenTree3 |
I'm retiring soon and will be moving back to Mn, and paddling in the BW again. I hope I never occupy a campsite where people have buried fish remains anywhere near it. |
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The Great Outdoors |
quote BigCurrent: Amen!!! Putting fish guts in the woods makes absolutely no sense. Bet that rule came out of Forest Service headquarters by someone that has only seen a fish on a plate in a restaurant! Sheeeeeesh! :( |
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thistlekicker |
I'm not a big fan of "feeding the gulls" - those sky rats don't need any help from us. Deep-six the bodies... |
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luft |
Wonder what type of "bear resistant" container that was taken? I sent my Ursack and BV500 with him to use so hopefully he will not have any issues. He does keep a clean camp but that doesn't mean the previous campers did! |
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Pinetree |
quote joewildlife: "Never seen a bear in Quetico. They tell you to pop the swim bladders and deep six your fish in deep water away from camp. Or put the remains on a rock on an island away from camp and let the birds have them. Putting fish remains in the woods, anywhere, just doesn't make sense, and burying them makes even less. In the Q, I always clean my fish away from camp. If I catch them from camp, I take a quick paddle to an island or shore away from camp to clean them and deep six the remains. Haven't been to BWCA in several years... Its a good way to to get rid of fish remains. Yes away from campsite-deeper water. No problem with me. That is where the fish came from and returning some of the original nutrients that maybe minnows or crayfish will feed on. |
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QueticoMike |
quote Pinetree: "quote joewildlife: "Never seen a bear in Quetico. They tell you to pop the swim bladders and deep six your fish in deep water away from camp. Or put the remains on a rock on an island away from camp and let the birds have them. Putting fish remains in the woods, anywhere, just doesn't make sense, and burying them makes even less. In the Q, I always clean my fish away from camp. If I catch them from camp, I take a quick paddle to an island or shore away from camp to clean them and deep six the remains. Haven't been to BWCA in several years... Yep, go out in the middle of the lake and deep 6 them. Turtles need to eat too :) Thanks for the info on the bears. |
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Pinetree |
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joewildlife |
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bpneiman |
To be clear I'm not worried about bears because we keep a very clean camp. Just wondering what actually goes on in these situations, and want to be prepared. |
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Walleye whisperer |
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johnMN |
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TechnoScout |
Pinetree: "x2jmorris: "I am so glad to see others say they deep six the remains. It makes complete sense to do that. Turtles and other stuff will eat that up in no time. My old pup that sadly is no longer around would always find the buried fish in the woods and roll in it. Maybe if you could really bury it then it would be alright but everyone only goes like an inch deep." I just checked the recreation.gov site for the latest on this rule: What should be done with food leftovers, live bait and fish remains? "Try to plan your meals so you don’t have leftovers. If you do, pack them out. Dispose of fish remains at least 200 feet from campsites, trails, portages, and shorelines. MN state law prohibits dumping unused bait into waters of the state. Unwanted live bait should be packed out with you and placed in the trash or compost bins. Dumping bait on the ground is littering." 200 ft off shore in the lake meets the requirement of this rule. |
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ZaraSp00k |
although I wonder what's really happening to it I place the remains on shore, a point if possible, far from camp, preferably opposite side of lake (I wil gather water on the return ), this might be a problem in Ontario with no dedicated camp sites, but if I figure if I think a site is unsuitable, so will the next guy and hopefully the remains are gone if by the time anybody uses it whatever is drawn to the remains is entertainment so it serves two purposes burying or throwing into the woods is not an option |
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Selfsuffi |
cowdoc: "You did notice these posts are 2 years old....." I was reading from the top down thinking it was current.....right until the ghost of TGO posted and stopped and looked at the date. I am sad this was an old post, I miss TGO's input. Now I will have the same feeling whenever I see an old post come back around with comments from Ozark Paddler... Two weeks from tomorrow and I will be heading north :) Maybe the spirits of TGO and Oz will help the wind blow at my back and the fish bite my bait. To those no longer able to actively post anymore may your memory stay with us in older posts. :) |
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Pinetree |
Selfsuffi: "cowdoc: "You did notice these posts are 2 years old....." Nice |
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treehorn |
quote bpneiman: "Is the preferred method now to scatter the fish remains in the woods away from any camps? When I last went in 2008 and 2009 everyone talked about burying them." As you can see by BigCurrent's post, it's a controversial topic...but yes I believe current guidelines and rangers who are going by the book will tell you to throw the remains in the woods, away from the lake and any campsites. |
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MikeinMpls |
I'm a catch and release fisherman, and I still don't catch many fish to release. BUT.... if I catch a walleye, I'd like the opportunity to have it for dinner! Mike |
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MooseTrack |
We took a bunch of bear reports yesterday. Please share the information with visitors travelling into these lakes: • Agnes Bear (US Agnes in LaCroix District): Here is an example of a nuisance bear or two created by human behavior. We’ve had a number of complaints about a bear coming into campsites on all sides of Agnes. On one of the sites close to the portage into Oyster, a bear drank a container of Canola oil last week. Another group discovered garbage bags with fish guts buried next to the portage and also behind a campsite on the south side. That reporter said the whole area reeks of rotten fish. Another bear report came from the east side of the lake—a small bear with brown fur looking for food. • Boulder Bay of Lac LaCroix bear: this bear carried away a bear resistant container holding only toothpaste and camp cups. We won’t have details on this one until the group returns from the BWCAW. • Wind Bay of Basswood bear: Site #105 at the top western entrance into Wind Bay a bear was reported. No details other than some campers put duct tape on a tree and wrote ‘bear’ on it. The tape has been removed. • Please remind visitors that when considering fish on their stringer, they should look back at their site, think ‘how close do I want a bear to come to my site?’ Paddle that distance away, check the map to be sure you’re not getting close to another site or portage, go into shore, clean the fish, carry the remains back into the woods away from the shoreline, and scatter the remains on the ground. No garbage bags, no digging, no dropping guts into the water—especially at the edge of the campsite. Rebecca Manlove Information Assistant Forest Service Superior National Forest, Kawishiwi Ranger District p: 218-365-2093 rmanlove@fs.fed.us 1393 Highway 169 Ely, MN 55731 www.fs.fed.us Caring for the land and serving people |
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bumabu |
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