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merlyn |
I keep a small emergency kit I keep in the truck in an old binocular pouch (3.5 x 4.5 in.) that I put on my belt for when I hike with my dogs. We generally hike on logging roads and such so I felt" why worry" , then I got turned around checking out something or other and spent way too much time finding my way back. Pat McManus wrote about logging roads and even mountains getting up and walking away, I absolutely believe him. |
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THEGrandRapids |
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Wharfrat63 |
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JWilder |
Jillpine - I like where your planning is focused. If I'm reading correctly, you are looking at some personal goals and preparing mentally for what you may encounter on your next trip in the BWCAW. I think that is good for us all to do. I hope you get there! JW |
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JWilder |
sns: "Blatz: "I see no need for a ditch kit in the BW. I have one pack in my canoe with everything in it. I'm always trying to lighten my pack. My base weight is around 16 lbs. I could get it lighter by eliminating my Heliox Zero chair and some electronics, but i like taking that stuff. Warm weather trips I don't take any wood processing tools. " I'm certainly leaning in this direction. I travel solo, so my first aid kit is looking quite small. Add those few other small items you would find in others "ditch kits" and it is not adding up to a lot. I can have everything in one place. I've seen a Nalgene work for this. I may look at this as an option... |
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sns |
Blatz: "I see no need for a ditch kit in the BW. I have one pack in my canoe with everything in it. I'm always trying to lighten my pack. My base weight is around 16 lbs. I could get it lighter by eliminating my Heliox Zero chair and some electronics, but i like taking that stuff. Warm weather trips I don't take any wood processing tools. " Right with you - 16.8 lb base weight, chair zero... In cold weather I do carry a small 'ditch kit' in my PFD, but it's only a space blanket, hurricane matches and a small bit of homemade firestarter. |
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AmarilloJim |
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Captn Tony |
Because of the first aid training I have made my own first aid kit. |
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Captn Tony |
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pswith5 |
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Blatz |
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JWilder |
Chieflonewatie: "Just go and enjoy it. Don't make it more than it has to be." Truth be told. I enjoy the prep work and pre-trip organizing. Part of the fun. |
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TrailZen |
JWilder: "Chieflonewatie: "Just go and enjoy it. Don't make it more than it has to be." Better planned and better prepared leads to better enjoyed. Like you, we enjoy the planning and organizational aspects of our BWCA/Q trips. Checklists are paramount--through the years we've generated lists for first aid, personal care, gear, clothing, food, etc. The 1250-mile commute from western NC to Ely requires that every item is listed somewhere and that each item is checked off as it's added to a pack and/or loaded into the car. For several years I had a Wilderness First Responder cert, but those are expensive both in time and money. I've also had the ARC Wilderness & Remote First Aid suggested by Bill Conner--it's great training at a reasonable price (and you can get student info here. The NOLS book is excellent as are several wilderness first aid guides. And just because a certification expires doesn't mean you've forgotten the training, so recertifying is more important to those whose jobs require the certification than to folks like us who simply want to be prepared to treat a wilderness injury or illness. With respect to firewood, we now carry only a folding saw and primarily use it for light portage maintenance. Like Boonie, we seldom have a fire; for that rare fire, if we can't break it we don't burn it. Enjoy the planning and prep, then enjoy paddling! TZ |
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JWilder |
salukiguy: "I feel a little inspired to work on the first aid kit. Can you show us your improved first aid kit when its done?" I have some work to do but yes, absolutely. Anyone want to share a pic of their kits? |
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JWilder |
salukiguy: "I feel a little inspired to work on the first aid kit. Can you show us your improved first aid kit when its done?" I have revived a First Aid Kit thread in the gear forum. My updated first aid kit is ready for feedback... JW |
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billconner |
Can't help with questions 3 and 4 - don't carry a ditch kit. (I haven't been anyplace in BWCA or Q that seems to warrant it. The one mid-October I dumped it seemed easy to stay with gear and canoe for 30-45 minutes to shore) And I cook in a stove almost exclusively, though have carried 12" bow saw - like $10 - and the very smallest Granfors hatchet - and they work well for cutting and splitting wood. |
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schweady |
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outsidethebox |
Our small stream brookies don't measure up to the ones my pediatrician brother and I caught in the BWCA last September. They are why my brother declares that the brook trout is our family fish. |
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boonie |
The checklist has become more detailed and specific as time as passed and experience and knowledge has accumulated, both from my own and that of others. The first-aid kit checklist has expiration dates that get checked every year. The thing that gets used most is band-aids, and I'll add some to my personals kit, which also contains my medications. Medication management has become one of the most complicated parts of my preparation. Knowledge is certainly a good thing to have. It's easy to get CPR training and could be very useful. I had put my ditch kit in the life jacket pockets - bought one with a bunch of pockets for that reason. I've always a few small items in my pants pocket, but I was wandering around a lot without my life jacket on, so last year I tried using a travel vest with a bunch of pockets, which worked out pretty well. I had it on almost all the time - on portages, wandering around the campsite exploring, etc. It also had enough room to carry some other general items that one often needs, uses. I don't "process" firewood since I rarely have a fire anymore. When I do it's small and mostly uses smaller stuff, which can be split with a knife if necessary (batoned). Some things I've improved over the years are winnowing down the food and fuel I take as well as some personal items. I expanded the checklist to include weights for most things, a list of things that need done to prepare for the trip, and also to include the things I take for the long drive up and back. I'm sometimes trying different clothing, footwear, etc. A focus this year will be learning about the Garmin InReach Mini I acquired and improving my map, compass, and navigation knowledge and skill. I'd also like to develop some more paddling skills. |
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JWilder |
boonie: "Aah, the never-ending quest ;). An on-going process for me. I assume you already have a checklist . . . I do NOT have a checklist... now I have a 5th item to add to the list above. I can create using Google sheets as I organize and pack. The more notes the better I suppose:) Thanks, JW |
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A1t2o |
For processing firewood, it really depends on the time of year, how far you are going, and how popular of an area it is. Earlier season in less crowded areas, you can get by easier with just a simple saw. There is likely to be more down branches and trees that you can cut for firewood. Later season or more popular areas, that easy to grab firewood is usually gone. An axe can really help here and allow you to take some of the wood that others might skip on. It just comes down to where you want to put in the effort though. Do you want to carry the extra weight so that you can gather a wider range of firewood and split it so it is easier to cook with, or would you rather save on the weight and put a little more effort into gathering firewood and cooking? If safety is the big factor, then consider a small hatchet that you only use as a splitting wedge with a handle. |
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JWilder |
This time of year, when temps dip below zero for weeks at a time, my mind is consumed with these subjects. During the continued planning stages of my next trip, here is where my focus for improvement will be over the next several months: 1) Complete evaluation and upgrades to my first aid kit - not necessarily in size, but in the contents in it, based on my knowledge and comfort level. I have never had to pull this out in a scenario, but it is not a matter of if, but when. 2) First aid knowledge - I have ordered a copy of the NOLS Wilderness Medicine and will dive into it soon. 3) Creation of a ditch kit - I have always carried a day pack with my first aid kit, and other "survival" contents like an emergency blanket, hand warmers, whistle, bug dope, fire starter material and such. But I have not had a kit separate from my day pack. I plan to utilize my life jacket "storage" for this. A little redundancy is not a bad idea. 4) Re-thinking how I process firewood - I aim to become safer and more efficient. In other words; to work smarter, not harder. I'm interested in what you are evaluating and focusing on as you plan your next trip(s) into the BWCAW. In what areas do you see yourself needing to improve? |
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straighthairedcurly |
I make notes after trips as to what gear was great, what gear was serviceable, and what gear was not worth taking. I have finally gotten my husband to decrease the bulk of what he carries. This year has been too busy at work for me to have my normal trip planning time and I am missing it...maybe over spring break I can get started. |
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jillpine |
I love to pass the time, regardless of season, in my head in the canoe in the woods. I’d rather be hopeful than bored, and planning seems full of hope. I like your list a lot. I unconsciously started a pattern the past few years that less is definitely better. And I’ve found that less actually takes more effort. Less of me (keep the weight off), less gear, less weight of gear that I do bring, and this year a stronger focus on - ironically- less expectations. Plans to paddle mostly in Canada were waylaid by the pandemic and I found myself disappointed and disgruntled with the heavy use in the BWCA. This year will be the same if not worse. So, in the trajectory of “less”, I’ve lessened my expectations and will work on practicing more grace and patience. I’m not saying it will work (see earlier comment that less is often more work) but that’s what I’m working on in the quiet season. You mentioned splitting wood. Totally off topic for BWCA is the Kindling Cracker. This has been a real game-changer for the woodstove. Kindling Cracker# |