Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Trip Planning Forum :: Boundary Waters - Reopening Updates
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adam |
Update 10-1-21 Effective today, the John Ek and Whelp Fire closure has been terminated...which means that 100% of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness is open again! Update 9-11-21 - The following are the closed EP: 51, 52 on Gunflint and then 34, 35, 36, 67, 84 in the Tofte region. PowWow Trial is also closed. Update as of 9-9-21 **** The BWCA is opening back up and scaling back closures associated with the John Ek and Whelp fires. Here's the scoop. Effective on Sept 11: - Forest lands and roads along the Upper Gunflint trail will reopen with the exception of Blankenburg Boat Launch, and Trails End and Iron Lake campgrounds and all associated facilities. Theses areas will remain closed to serve as basecamps and staging areas for firefighters and other personnel responding to wildfires. - The new and smaller BWCAW closure area will remain in effect around the John Ek and Whelp fires through at least the end of the 2021 quota permit season on September 30, or until terminated. This is to ensure public safety should the fire become active again. - The area on the map and the following entry points will remain closed: Missing Link Lake and Brant Lake. - The following entry points will reopen on September 11: Seagull Lake, Saganaga Lake, South Lake, Skipper and Portage Lakes, Cross Bay Lake, Magnetic Lake, Kekekabic Trail – East/West, Kawishiwi Lake and Larch Creek. NOTE: Visitors with valid permits for Seagull Lake entry point will be able to access the lake via Blankenberg boat launch or Trails End campground. This is the only allowable public use of the boat launch and campground at this time. - If you have an existing permit for one of the above reopened entry points on September 11 or after, your permit is still valid. Update as of 9-1-21**** Full BWCAW Closure is being lifted: Portions of the BWCAW will reopen, effective September 4, including the Crooked Lake area near Canada. If you had a previously reserved permit for after September 4, your permit is still valid. Available quota permits will be live for reservation on Thursday, September 2 at 12:00 PM on Recreation.gov. Full BWCAW Closure is being lifted for parts of the BWCA effective September 4, including the Crooked Lake area near Canada. If you had a previously reserved permit for after September 4, your permit is still valid. This will be for both overnight and day use. The fire ban remains in effect. Available quota permits will be live for reservation on Thursday, September 2 at 12:00 PM on Recreation.gov. Parts of the BWCA will remain closed through at least Sept 10th due to the John Ek & Whelp fires: This closure area includes the John Ek and Whelp Fires: Seagull Lake EP #54/#54A/L, Saganaga Lake EP #55/#55A/J, Missing Link Lake EP #51, Brant Lake EP #52, Cross Bay Lake EP #50, Kekakbic Trail EP #56, Skipper and Portage Lakes EP #49, Kawishiwi Lake EP #37, Hog Creek EP #36. The fireban within the BWCA remains in effect. However, fires are being allowed in the designated fire grates in most fee campgrounds in Superior National Forest. Old notices below ******* Updated closure notice 8-30-21 - Please note these changes are very fluid at this point due to fire growth and conditions. - Official BWCA Closure Order - BWCA is closed from use both for camping and day use. - Currently effective through Sept 3rd. - Upper Gunflint Trail forest lands/roads along Cook County 12/Gunflint Trail beginning at the Cook County 92 intersection to the end of the Gunflint Trail are closed through at least 8/31. Trails End and Iron Lake campground are in the closure area. Order and Map - Camping on Superior National Forest lands outside of developed campgrounds will be closed due to fire danger and public safety. Day use is allowed on the forest and most developed campgrounds (fee and non-fee) remain open to public use. Read FS Orders Resorts are still open unless otherwise directly impacted by the orders or fires. |
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adam |
Colticus: "Adam, do you have a link for this info? " I spoke and confirmed this with the Forest Service, as well as, multiple people who were not issued permits this morning at ranger stations. I would expect an official order posted today. |
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Goldenbadger |
Harv: "Haven't seen anything published that says the entire bwca is closed officially. " I can't find anything, either. I wish someone would give us an official link for this. |
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OMGitsKa |
Goldenbadger: "Harv: "Haven't seen anything published that says the entire bwca is closed officially. " I'm guessing it's in the works, as there's been several people with some verbal confirmations. |
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alexanderfalconer |
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ockycamper |
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TuscaroraBorealis |
Spoke with Quinn at Bearskin and he confirmed the complete closure. Also, no day usage allowed either. |
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scotttimm |
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straighthairedcurly |
The official Forest Service notice is expected to be published later today. |
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Gaidin53 |
I’m supposed to be entering at Moose Lake next Saturday with a couple of friends that haven’t canoe tripped before. Really only had a small amount of fresh food to buy this week for the trip. We we’re going to buy stuff for the trail mix today. Pretty much had everything out and ready to go. Bummer! I was told by my outfitter that they are waiting for the official announcement. That some are still going out today so it seems like there is some confusion right now. Ryan |
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larrymarket |
adam: "Due to overall fire safety issues in the BWCA, permits have stopped being issued for all entry points starting today. We feel terrible for everyone who will miss a trip and the surrounding businesses. And thank you to the firefighters who continue to battle the fires. I reserved a permit on Saganaga Lake (EP55) back on 8/5. Entering 9/27-10/2. Does this mean I will not be allowed to enter on 9/27? |
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yogi59weedr |
That's a lot of folk to go fetch that's already in the bwca. |
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Paddle4Hike |
I hope all those firefighters and residents stay safe. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like there is much rain forecast there in the coming week. |
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scottiebaldwin |
ockycamper: "If you have already pulled our permit on the Reservations.gov site are you ok?" From what I understand, even if you have a permit reserved it doesn't mean they have to issue it to you. Outfitters and Ranger stations will (most likely) not be issuing them on site so essentially, the answer sadly seems "No." |
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Sam B |
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cyclones30 |
larrymarket: "adam: "Due to overall fire safety issues in the BWCA, permits have stopped being issued for all entry points starting today. We feel terrible for everyone who will miss a trip and the surrounding businesses. And thank you to the firefighters who continue to battle the fires. Larry, this is a day by day thing. You've got over a month before your trip. For now you just hope for rain and the fires to get under control. |
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DavidRoanMN |
yogi59weedr: "Oh my, Currently out on Rice Lake (near Slim) Does this mean I am required pack up and head in? |
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adam |
DavidRoanMN: "yogi59weedr: "Oh my, I would wait for the official order with details to be published. |
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mountaingoat |
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canoegal |
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DavidRoanMN |
adam: "DavidRoanMN: "yogi59weedr: "Oh my, Outfitter said we're cool to stay (unless advised otherwise by officials) thru trip's end on Monday. Thanks! |
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mjmkjun |
scotttimm: "Sigh. Epic trip, having planned for a year with my HS senior son for next Saturday. Getting used to disappointment has been the new norm. " Indeed. 2020 sucked. 2021 sucks. We endure to see another day, another trip, another year. I hope you & son get to plan another trip this year. I read a short snip of an article -on the internet- which stated the first part of October is supposed to be realtively warm this year. Then, when changeover happens it'll be sudden. Watch the forecasts in next two months. Still, It's going to take tons of snowmelt to bring water levels back up in Spring of 2022. |
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timatkn |
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Duboly |
timatkn: "Literally just got my email saying the area is closed. My Permit for next Sunday is still active but could be cancelled. " Same here. Here's hoping for the best. |
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davidsos |
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Gaidin53 |
Yes my permit got cancelled for entry on Saturday August 28th and a refund was issued. Ryan |
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HighnDry |
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Beast388 |
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Harv |
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Duboly |
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adam |
Effective 10/1 the entire BWCA is open. All fire closures have been listed. |
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adam |
- Forest lands and roads along the Upper Gunflint trail will reopen with the exception of Blankenburg Boat Launch, and Trails End and Iron Lake campgrounds and all associated facilities. Theses areas will remain closed to serve as basecamps and staging areas for firefighters and other personnel responding to wildfires. - The new and smaller BWCAW closure area will remain in effect around the John Ek and Whelp fires through at least the end of the 2021 quota permit season on September 30, or until terminated. This is to ensure public safety should the fire become active again. - The area on the map and the following entry points will remain closed: Missing Link Lake and Brant Lake. - The following entry points will reopen on September 11: Seagull Lake, Saganaga Lake, South Lake, Skipper and Portage Lakes, Cross Bay Lake, Magnetic Lake, Kekekabic Trail – East/West, Kawishiwi Lake and Larch Creek. NOTE: Visitors with valid permits for Seagull Lake entry point will be able to access the lake via Blankenberg boat launch or Trails End campground. This is the only allowable public use of the boat launch and campground at this time. - If you have an existing permit for one of the above reopened entry points on September 11 or after, your permit is still valid. |
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Rockwood |
larrymarket: "I reserved a permit on Saganaga Lake (EP55) back on 8/5. Entering 9/27-10/2. Does this mean I will not be allowed to enter on 9/27?" |
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Rockwood |
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adam |
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Rockwood |
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adam |
GamesAddicted2: "Any new updates on BWCA closure, our entry is for this Sunday the 5th, going in on Snowbank I would look for an update later tonight or more likely tomorrow. |
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GamesAddicted2 |
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pswith5 |
Gaidin53: "I just checked mine Amazing how the rain just seems to Peter out as it gets close to The Ely area.I have always had mixed feelings about this expression! Pete |
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Gaidin53 |
Ryan |
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inspector13 |
egknuti: "Speckled: "Interesting - I don't have any official rain totals, but it seems to me as though there have been drier years. Admittedly...my evidence is anecdotal and my sample size is two. Yes, I've owned my property for over 18 years and have seen drier years. My Spruce are OK, but 90% of the Balsam are dead and the rest are dying. |
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TechnoScout |
I have not seen another announcement from the FS about extending the closure, however. |
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joewildlife |
It is nice to have a back up plan to a back up plan to a back up plan to a back up plan!! Might need 'em all this year! Joe |
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egknuti |
Speckled: "Interesting - I don't have any official rain totals, but it seems to me as though there have been drier years. Admittedly...my evidence is anecdotal and my sample size is two. A big problem is all the Spruce and Balsam that have succumbed to Spruce Bud Worm. On my last trip I noticed just about every Balsam was dead along each lake I went through. |
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adam |
Dispersed Camping There is very little information on the use and quality of the sites. Some are on motorized lakes, but this is an option. |
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timatkn |
QueticoMike: "What's the earliest they could open back up permits? 27th or 28th? " My email from the FS says it is closed through 8/27, so 8/28 will be the soonest it can open. I have a permit for 8/29 and don’t think it will happen. T |
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Holehopper |
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BWPaddler |
okinaw55: "BWPaddler: "Does anyone know if this has ever happened before?" Thanks |
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joewildlife |
GoNorth: "scotttimm: "Sigh. Epic trip, having planned for a year with my HS senior son for next Saturday. Getting used to disappointment has been the new norm. " So I poked around on Ontario's park website and without the link you provided, the park doesn't seem to exist. It is called a "non operating park" and I can't find it on the list of parks to check out reservations or fees. Any tips appreciated! I might just have to stretch my wings and do Wabikimi. Joe |
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tumblehome |
This area is quite spectacular for scenery and fishing. Lots of exposed granite. The above mentioned park is also a non-operating park. To further clarify the term, it means it is not regulated like the BWCA or Quetico. Therefore, there are motors, float planes, trappers, fly-in camps, Big Foot, and so on. But these northern Ontario parks are very large with very few people. If you can get past the internal combustion engines and messier campsites, it’s a fine alternative. When I was in St. Raphael, I saw no other canoes. I did see all of the above mentioned. You do need a crown land permit and need to do some homework in regards to maps. Campsites are not marked on maps but I had no problems finding places to camp. If you can get to Canada, head north my friend. Tom |
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ockycamper |
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dschult2 |
joewildlife: "GoNorth: "scotttimm: "Sigh. Epic trip, having planned for a year with my HS senior son for next Saturday. Getting used to disappointment has been the new norm. " Since it is a non operating park it is considered crown land so if your a Canadian citizen it is free and if a U.S. citizen you would just need to obtain the non-resident camping permit. Your best bet for maps would probably be the official Canadian topo maps but I think any one of the outfitters in Atikokan can help you with maps and routes. Here are a couple links for routes I found just doing a quick google search and a link to buy your permit online. route route non-resident camping permit |
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airmorse |
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scotttimm |
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Speckled |
The knife river is a 1/4 mile walk through the woods from my house and at least once in the last 20 years, i remember it not flowing, there was just water in the holes. It's still flowing today. The lake our cabin is on, my neighbor who's been there forever has said a particular reef has broken the surface a number of times in dry years in the past. It's still about a foot below the surface right now. (This is on a lake near the greenwood fire) |
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scat |
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QueticoMike |
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OldGuide2 |
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whyzata |
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gravelroad |
scotttimm: "For those of you with permits on the horizon, here's what I heard this morning from the FS: A hard rain’s (gotta) fall … |
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GoNorth |
scotttimm: "Sigh. Epic trip, having planned for a year with my HS senior son for next Saturday. Getting used to disappointment has been the new norm. " I feel for you. We just had our long planned Quetico trip cancelled. Our outfitter pointed us to Turtle River /White Otter provincial park. Landscape very similar to BWCA with chains of lakes/river, backcountry camping, good/great fishing etc. It’s right by Atikoken / just north of Quetico. About a 2 hour drive from International Falls MN Not the same I know but just passing along a good option to consider. Last I checked getting a permit was no problem and park was open https://www.ontarioparks.com/park/turtleriverwhiteotterlake |
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scotttimm |
GoNorth: "scotttimm: "Sigh. Epic trip, having planned for a year with my HS senior son for next Saturday. Getting used to disappointment has been the new norm. " Thanks for the tip, it is appreciated - unfortunately, we had planned to do the Kruger Waddell Challenge from Int. Falls to Lake Superior, then it got cut down to Moose Lake to Lake Superior...not sure if we are up for planning a whole other adventure that would justify him taking a week off of school. |
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davidsos |
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rvrduxx |
Thanks RVRDUX |
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okinaw55 |
BWPaddler: "Does anyone know if this has ever happened before?" Yes 1976 for sure. Not sure if there are other ones. Well last year with covid for a while. |
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deerfoot |
GoNorth: "scotttimm: "Sigh. Epic trip, having planned for a year with my HS senior son for next Saturday. Getting used to disappointment has been the new norm. " With friends I did the White Otter/Turtle Rv trip in June 2019, sadly my last Canadian trip. Last year border closed and this year Woodland Caribou PP closed - maybe next year. The White Otter/Turtle Rv was a nice trip - easy route to follow, all portages open and not difficult or long. Since we went just before fishing opener we saw no one on WO lake or the Turtle Rv. |
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Marley |
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Local34North |
davidsos: "Just arrived in Lincoln NE from Denver enroute to Brule 8/24 to find the cancellation/refund emails. Fully loaded car with gear & canoe on top. Bummer. Still want to experience north country and try some fishing. Front country car camping now looks like best bet. We were planning to avoid portaging due to hip and knee issues. Any recommendations for lakes and/or campgrounds? Doesn’t need to be right at edge of BWCA. Thanks!" There are 254 campsites outside the BWCA that are in the SNF. Not all on/near lakes but most are. I would check out the Superior National Forest website. We had a Meeds lake entry permit for 8/26, was canceled so we are now staying at a few different campsites along the gunflint and paddling lakes outside the BWCA. Not exactly a wilderness trip but better than nothing. We will enjoy ourselves none the less. |
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davidsos |
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Cedarboy |
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HighnDry |
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Ausable |
Official BWCA Closure Order & Map We were supposed to enter Bower Trout tomorrow. Rockwood Outfitters called me just as we were driving into Eau Claire at 10 AM. We finally decided to reserve sites in the Sylvania Wilderness. |
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Colticus |
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schweady |
First the fire ban, then the Crooked and Iron Lakes area closures, then the expansion along the Echo and points north, then the Greenwood closures, then the Whelp Fire and Sawbill area... Now, this. We got a dumping of 2+ inches of rain here in Perham yesterday, but it appears that it moved mostly northward and nothing much fell east of International Falls. It's measured in the hundredths of an inch around the BWCAW. Pray for rain in the border region. |
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BWPaddler |
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Colticus |
adam: "Colticus: "Adam, do you have a link for this info? " Bummer, just spoke with our outfitter as this was posted and they said we were good. Will keep an eye the SNF page for updates. Thanks! |
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ockycamper |
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egknuti |
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IndyCanoe |
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HighnDry |
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mjmkjun |
TuscaroraBorealis: "Barely got any rain last night/early this morning up on the Iron Range. And, it's been gusty winds since the sun popped up. Bummer. I gave up my S. Kawishiwi River permit cuz can't nanage the long portage but was counting on day trips. So, the whole of BWCA--no day trips. Ugh!......but I understand the precaution. |
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scotttimm |
Sigh. Wonder what chances are they may open parts up by the 28th? |