Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Trip Planning Forum :: 2023 Border Route Trip Invite
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Grandma L |
The paddlers are on the move - several are already on their way to Ely. I head out on Thursday morning to Grand Portage, pick up a few paddlers and then on to Ely for our Paddler's Meeting at 3:00 PM. The car is getting packed, the Bear Claw awards are in the making and the final arrangements are actually coming together! Remember, you can watch some of the paddlers on Watertribe.com on the tracking page. |
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BeaV |
Lots of paddlers not able to make the start....sometimes that is the hardest part. But we still have a great number that will start, there are 21 paddlers. It's going to be fun! Whitewolf- thanks for the well wishes. Team BeaV this is year is 4 of us paddling two Wenonah MN 2's. Kendra (aka MAKK), Troy (aka McPipes), BeaV (aka BeaV), and new comer Sandra (aka Dragon Lady). I will be running our Spot device so our team will show up on the WaterTribe Mapper as "BeaV". |
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MN_Lindsey |
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Grandma L |
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plander |
Grandma L: "Sammy, Grandma L, Jumping into the discussion with a question midstream. I'd register now if I could (>80% sure I can go) but I don't yet have the Spot or InReach and won't have it until August. So should I wait until then to register? Please advise. |
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SammyN |
Wondering if you could weigh in on this. Currently, we have a northwind 17, but have been kicking around the idea of getting a MN2. How much faster do you think a MN2 is? It's been a few years since we used one (rented from an outfitter). We remembered it tracked well, and was also skinnier for the paddlers. We are intermediate skilled paddlers, and wondering if it would be worth it to just buy (and then resell) a MN2. Thanks! |
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Grandma L |
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Grandma L |
Good to hear from you. In the past, paddlers have worked together with other paddlers, families or friends to meet at Grand Portage early on the "starting Friday", leave vehicles at the Marina and get driven back to Ely by a friend in time for the Friday 3:00 PM paddlers meeting. That way when they are finished, they can be independent. The trick is to have a vehicle that picks you up in Grand Portage before the Challenge that has the capability of transporting a couple of canoes and paddlers so folks can work together to take advantage of this arrangement. Oh, the boat landing Grand Portage Casino Marina is where that kind of parking is permitted. I think there is a small daily charge for parking. Give me call if I can help or if you need more information. |
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Grandma L |
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BeaV |
EZPete: "Hello everyone! Hi Pete! There's a good chance someone would be able to pick you up in Duluth and get you to Ely. A lot of peoples' plans are evolving so you may need to be patient with your potential plan. I see your registered for both the Kruger/Waddell and the Voyageurs Challenge? Did you change from the Kruger to the Voyageurs Challenge? As far as what people have done in the past for getting to the start and from the finish... 1) Join a shuttle organized by us 2) Have friends or family shuttle, this works really well at the finish as they can welcome you at the finish, hang out with us, and take you home. 3) hire Harriet to drive you from Grand Portage to Duluth Looking forward to meeting you and ,way more excited, to meet you at the finish! |
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EZPete |
Hi Lori. Thanks for the information. I attempted to update my registration from the Kruger/Wadell to the Voyageur's Challenge but it appears I'm signed up for both now. One is enough, I'm doing the Voyageur! |
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Cricket67 |
Really appreciate all the people putting in their time and effort into making this possible. Thank you! |
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BeaV |
A 2-day headstart huh? Hmmm, I've never hunted TreeBears before...:) |
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Grandma L |
Go ahead and register with Water Tribe. You can add your SPOT closer to the Challenge. If your plans change, you can always drop out. If you are registered, I will be able to include you in information as things evolve. |
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scotttimm |
SammyN: "Hi all, We used a Sundowner, similar to a MN2, and loved it. We also beat the snot out of it on the Pigeon, which is what I would be thinking about if you are going to buy and then re-sell. I opted to purchase the cheap 84 Sundowner knowing I could potentially wreck it. A guy could be super careful and hop out over and over...but that guy wasn't me. Another option would be to rent for the trip (I think some others do this from Piragis) and not have to worry about it. |
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Conchistador |
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BeaV |
straighthairedcurly, JimmyJustice, Conchcistador, scottimm- welcome back for another Challenge year!!! Currently, there are 19 paddlers signed up on WaterTribe. And I know of more who haven't registered yet. For those thinking about joining us, I'd recommend taking the leap and signing up. As Grandm L says, this way you will receive communications. And I say registering is the second step to participating. You can always unregister if plans change. I hope to see some more new faces this year. |
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BeaV |
plander: "Question… Does the required satellite communicator have to a Spot? Or are other brands ok (I.e. ACR bivy stick)?" Good morning! The required satellite communicator has to be either a Spot or an Inreach. This is because those are the only two that are tied in to the WaterTribe Tracking Map. |
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plander |
BeaV: "plander: "Question… Does the required satellite communicator have to a Spot? Or are other brands ok (I.e. ACR bivy stick)?" Thanks! |
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scotttimm |
If you've got the time, and you can get yourself physically ready (start now!), I highly recommend it. |
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SammyN |
Since this is our 1st time doing something like this, we will probably go with the Northwind. |
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Grandma L |
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DanCooke |
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JimmyJustice |
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Kendra |
Signed up! Check. |
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BeaV |
Little Vermillion Entry- 5 permits available for Friday 9/1, 0 permits for Saturday 9/2, and 5 permits available for Sunday 9/3. Little Indian Souix North Entry- 0 permits available for 9/1-9/3 From Canada Entry- 3 permits available for Friday 9/1, 2 permits for Saturday 9/2, and 2 permits available for Sunday 9/3. Moose Lake Entry- 0 permits available for Friday 9/1, 19 permits for Saturday 9/2, and 18 permits available for Sunday 9/3. |
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BeaV |
1) Kruger Waddell Challenge- 260 mile route International Falls through Voyageurs Nat'l Park and all the BWCA 2) Voyageurs Challenge- 205 mile route Crane Lake(or Little Indian Sioux North as an alternative start) though all the BWCA west to east 3) Moose Lake Challenge- 125 mile route Ely @ Moose Lake A group called WaterTribe is setting up the details and making shuttle arrangements. More details are given at the WaterTribe website at the link below. The above start dates are going to be flexible due to Entry Point permit availability. All the challenge routes finish on Lake Superior at the historic Grand Portage Fort. The route to be followed should generally be the international boundary with Canada. Of course, longer routes are fine and maybe needed if the wind is blowing hard when you want to paddle one of many big lakes. All participants who need shuttling help will equally split shuttling costs. WaterTribe has a customized satellite tracking map that will show all groups as they progress along the route. This is why each group needs to bring and use a Spot or an InReach. This is an unsupported challenge. Unsupported means no preplanned assistance such as a support crew, phone calls to home for navigation assistance, and food resupply. Take what you need from the start. What really makes this a challenge is the time constraint component. The harder you push the greater the challenge. The first recorded record was set by Sir George Simpson of the Hudson’s Bay Company and his hand-picked team of Voyageurs in the 1800's during the fur trade era. Feel free to express your interest in doing this and post any questions you may have here or you can email me direct. Grandma L from this site is also available to help with questions and with keeping us organized. Post here if you’re looking to form a team, join a team, or have room for someone to join your team. The WaterTribe site is where you register and see the current roster list. WaterTribe Website |
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straighthairedcurly |
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Grandma L |
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JimmyJustice |
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HighnDry |
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Grandma L |
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Conchistador |
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Grandma L |
Go to watertribe.com and register even if your plans might change. That way you will get information as the shuttle arrangements and Challenge details evolve. Feel free to send me a direct e-mail with comments and questions. Do a member search. |
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BeaV |
SammyN: "Hi all, I own 2 MN2's and 0 Northwind 17's, for the record. I asked this same question a few years ago and test paddled the two boats back to back on flat water for a short while. Used a GPS to record speed. Speeds were comparable. I think theoretically, the MN2 has a potentially higher hull speed but I couldn't see a difference on my test paddle. My opinion is the Northwind 17 is a good boat for the Challenges. |
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HighnDry |
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BeaV |
HighnDry: "just bumping this up so that I can refer back to it quicker as the day approaches...." The "day" is approaching fast now...see you in Ely this Friday and then it's a go on Saturday!! I can't wait!! |
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scotttimm |
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WhiteWolf |
But this year my son is a senior in HS and runs CC and I don't want to miss ANY of his meets as those I can't ever get to watch again. The Challenge will always be there whether in SEPT or whenever--- - BUT GO TEAM BeaV!!!! |
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EZPete |
I'm registered for the 2023 Voyageur's Challenge and really looking forward to the event and meeting you all. I'm a 55 year old semi-retired Air Force pilot from Duluth where I grew up. I moved back to Duluth in 2018 for all the outdoor adventure opportunities in Northern Minnesota. I've completed about 10 BWCA trips since then, about half of them solo. My logistical plan is evolving. I'm curious if anyone else arriving in Ely from or through Duluth? I'm currently planning to take the shuttle from Grand Portage back to Ely but I may have a way to pre-position a vehicle in Grand Portage. I'm wondering what other people have done in the past to get to and from the start/finish. I'm very happy to have this chance and look forward to meeting and talking to you |
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Conchistador |
Conchistador: "I’m very much looking forward to my 3rd border trip. Trying it in a canoe this year. See y’all in Ely! " Not in a canoe after all. Sticking with SUP. 1 month to go !!! |
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HighnDry |
HighnDry: "Putting a pin in this one on the calendar for now...." I registered....so.....couldn't get a permit for the 2nd so I chose the 3rd...probably the most reasonable since I'd be starting at sha sha and probably won't make little vermilion until the next day......we'll see |
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plander |
BeaV: "Plander- welcome aboard, I see you signed up on WaterTribe! Thanks. Looking forward to it! |
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JimmyJustice |
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BeaV |
HighnDry: "HighnDry: "Putting a pin in this one on the calendar for now...." Welcome HighnDry...another new face for 2023. Looking forward to seeing you in September! |