Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Trip Planning Forum :: First Trip Help EP 38
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WonderMonkey |
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Spartan2 |
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jsmithxc |
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Michwall2 |
1. Try planning the trip going counter-clockwise. Head east off Sawbill to Burnt or Kelly Lake for your first night. 2. Try creating a day for either a layover or a day trip. Frost Lake is a great lake with golden sand beaches that I like to visit for a picnic on the beach. Have a great first trip! |
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Redniblees |
Day 1 - Enter EP 38 from Sawbill Outfitters and make our way up to Cherokee Lake Camp site 892, Total distance is 12.3 miles and they say approximately 5 hours and 30 mins. Day 2 - Leave campsite 892 and make our way south towards South Temperance Lake to camp site 908. Total distance of 5.2 miles which they say it will take around 2 hours and 43 miles. Day 3 - Leave campsite 908 and head south between Jack Lake and Kelly Lake at campsite 927. Total distance of 6.5 miles and approximately 3 hours and 24 minutes. Day 4 - Leave and head towards Flame Lake which is north side of Burnt Lake to campsite 918. Total distance is 5.7 miles and around 2 hours and 38 minutes of travel. Day 5 - Last day leave camp and head back to EP 38 which is 5.4 miles and around 2 hours and 42 minutes of travel. My question is, am I going too short on each day? Most places I see about a Cherokee Loop trip very similar to mine is saying it takes around 4 days. I find that if I try and squeeze it all into 4 days there will be some crazy days of really trying to make good time and end up at camp wore out. Me and my wife have little canoe experience, we like to hike, are comfortable outdoors, don't have really have any requirements for this trip except to have fun and enjoy nature. We're bringing fishing stuff, but neither of us are huge fish people, just for fun, catch and release. Any recommendations or advice on this trip? Open for any ideas or thoughts on this potential trip. Day Distance Time 1 12.3 5:29 2 5.2 2:43 3 6.5 3:24 4 5.7 2:38 5 5.4 2:42 |
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portagerunner |
Most importantly, have fun out there! |
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Northwoodsman |
Another great route from #38 is the Lady Lake Chain. You start at EP #38 and end at #37 and arrange for a shuttle ahead of time. Most people go from #37 to #38 but doing it the opposite direction certainly is an option. If you gat an early start the lakes are usually calmer (Alton would be the only concern). On your first BWCA trip it's not a bad idea to start out with an easier trip to get acclimated and get your paddling and portage rhythm going. You'll probably also be carrying more weight than on a hiking trip and your feet are likely to be wet all day long while portaging and paddling. |
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boonie |
I have generally figured on traveling at about 2 mph average based on many trips. I generally figured on traveling about 5 hours +/- 1 hour and 10 miles +/- 2 miles. I also generally leave 1 or more weather/layover days depending on length of trip. If you leave camp at 8:00 or 9:00, you are looking for a campsite early afternoon when people have left and before a lot are occupied. I did that loop in 2019 but started at Baker Lake, EP #39. Roughly the same distance of about 35 miles, 4 1/2 days of travel, 4 camps - South Temperance, Cherokee, Sawbill, Burnt. I had a layover day on Cherokee. Travel days were about 10 mi., 6 mi., 8 mi. 6 mi., 5 mi. Will add more later. Feel free to email me. |
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A1t2o |
Michwall2: "I have done this route several times over the years. I have a couple of suggestions for you. I was going to say the exact same thing. Paddling is always easier at the end of the trip than it is on the first day. Your arms are going to get tired. It's a lot like riding a bike, your body will not be used to it at first but adapts pretty quickly after a night or two. A layover day is huge as well. It allows you to explore the lake, get a little rest and relaxation, and hit it hard the next day without getting worn down. This is a vacation, treat it like one. Personally, I love the contrast between pushing hard, covering ground, seeing the sights, then sleeping in the next day and fishing or just relaxing in camp and playing cards. 3 days between South Temperance and Sawbill is a lot of time and not a lot of distance. Cherokee and South Temperance are destination lakes, so you want to camp on those, everything else is a stopping point for the day. I would recommend getting to the Temperance River on day one and making it to South Temperance on day two. That would give you a layover day on Cherokee before the long haul out. Lastly, don't plan on a specific campsite. Odds are one of them will be taken, not as good as it was in years past, or something will cause you to change your plans. If you get hung up on getting specific campsites, that's a good way to set yourself up for disappointment and leave a shadow hanging over the trip. Be prepared to push on to the next lake because all the sites are full, especially on South Temperance. You just can't have a rigid itinerary in the wilderness. This is also why a layover day is important, so you can change your plans if needed. |
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lundojam |
Remember it's your vacation. Take it easy. I like the counter-clockwise idea. And, as others have said, don't count on specific campsites. Have a plan A, plan B, and plan C, and also be ready to throw them all out the window if something bad happens, or if something great happens like a beautiful open campsite or hot fishing. |