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Woods Walker
03/19/2014 12:15PM
  
quote Wables: "Do you ever get over to Duluth? I could spare a few pumps of Raka for you. "


I do get up to Duluth once & a while. Thanks for the offer, I may take you up on that
 
Woods Walker
03/27/2014 12:17PM
  
quote Bannock: "quote Woods Walker: "This is why Bannock




quote HighPlainsDrifter: "
And I think the rule is that epoxy resin is OK over polyester resin, but poly resin is not OK over epoxy resin....... So, that rules out a trip to the local automotive store to pick up poly resin on the cheap.
"




I tried to use some 7 it looked like hell... pulled it off before it cured"



I'm not talking poly resin. I mean epoxy glue. Something like this. "


I might look into that
 
Cedarboy
03/27/2014 04:49PM
  
For small spot I am with Bannock on this.
CXB
 
Woods Walker
04/18/2014 08:35PM
  
quote DeterminedOrange: "quote Woods Walker: "quote DeterminedOrange: "WW,





Any luck finding some? From your profile I see you are from Brainerd, I am originally from up that way too and get back there once in a while. I have a bit of S3 Silvertip left, how many oz. do you need?





Bryan"




No I haven't done anything yet, canoe is still hanging in the garage... if we ever get some nice weather I will make time to fix it. the spot I need to fix is about a 1 inch chip that needs to be filled in, so it wouldn't take much.




Appreciate the offer, I live just north of Brainerd off Gull Lake Dam Road.




"



Email sent."


Reply sent back...LOL

 
Bannock
03/22/2014 05:27PM
  
Why not use 2 part epoxy glue from the hardware store? That's what I've used in the past.
 
HighPlainsDrifter
03/24/2014 07:27PM
  
I said, I think. Tonight, I checked with my Systems III "The Epoxy Book" and on page 4 found:


"Observe the general rule that epoxy resins may be applied over cured polyesters that have been dewaxed and well sanded but polyesters should never be used over cured epoxy resins"

Also about shelf life of Systems III epoxy resins:
"All solvent-free epoxies have essentially unlimited shelf lives so long as they are stored in sealed containers. The resin may crystallize or the hardener may darken but this does not affect its performance. If in doubt, do a test to satisfy yourself that it cures properly"
 
Woods Walker
03/24/2014 12:11PM
  
This is why Bannock


quote HighPlainsDrifter: "
And I think the rule is that epoxy resin is OK over polyester resin, but poly resin is not OK over epoxy resin....... So, that rules out a trip to the local automotive store to pick up poly resin on the cheap.
"


I tried to use some 7 it looked like hell... pulled it off before it cured
 
Woods Walker
04/19/2014 10:04PM
  
Thanks to Bryan aka DeterminedOrange.... I have a couple ounces of epoxy to do the repair.


It was nice meeting you Bryan, we will have to go paddling sometime your back up here this summer.


Always nice to meet new friends from BWCA.com
 
DeterminedOrange
04/20/2014 09:49PM
  
quote Woods Walker: "Thanks to Bryan aka DeterminedOrange.... I have a couple ounces of epoxy to do the repair.



It was nice meeting you Bryan, we will have to go paddling sometime your back up here this summer.



Always nice to meet new friends from BWCA.com"


And thanks again for swapping stories over a cold beverage. If you need more, let me know. Yes, we should do a little paddling in your neck of the woods, will let you know when I take the Passage over there.
 
Woods Walker
03/19/2014 12:16PM
  
quote HighPlainsDrifter: "
In your build, you probably used epoxy resin rather than polyester resin. And I think the rule is that epoxy resin is OK over polyester resin, but poly resin is not OK over epoxy resin....... So, that rules out a trip to the local automotive store to pick up poly resin on the cheap.



The smallest quantities that I have seen from manufacturers like System III, West, and MAS is pint of hardener ($26.00) and quart of resin ($34.00)....... But, after you fix the canoe you could always use the rest on building a paddle. Systems III claims an almost unlimited shelf life.



What you really need is a donation from someone who has a bunch hanging around.......



Systems III from Jamestown "


Thanks, I used MAS when I built it & then ordered a pint of West to finish up. I may have to order a pint if I can't connect with someone that has any extra around. If it shelves that well, might be worth having some around.
 
Woods Walker
03/25/2014 06:12PM
  
quote HighPlainsDrifter: "I said, I think. Tonight, I checked with my Systems III "The Epoxy Book" and on page 4 found:



"Observe the general rule that epoxy resins may be applied over cured polyesters that have been dewaxed and well sanded but polyesters should never be used over cured epoxy resins"


Also about shelf life of Systems III epoxy resins:
"All solvent-free epoxies have essentially unlimited shelf lives so long as they are stored in sealed containers. The resin may crystallize or the hardener may darken but this does not affect its performance. If in doubt, do a test to satisfy yourself that it cures properly""


Thanks I will just order some
 
Woods Walker
04/16/2014 06:27PM
  
quote DeterminedOrange: "WW,



Any luck finding some? From your profile I see you are from Brainerd, I am originally from up that way too and get back there once in a while. I have a bit of S3 Silvertip left, how many oz. do you need?



Bryan"


No I haven't done anything yet, canoe is still hanging in the garage... if we ever get some nice weather I will make time to fix it. the spot I need to fix is about a 1 inch chip that needs to be filled in, so it wouldn't take much.


Appreciate the offer, I live just north of Brainerd off Gull Lake Dam Road.



 
DeterminedOrange
04/16/2014 11:21PM
  
quote Woods Walker: "quote DeterminedOrange: "WW,




Any luck finding some? From your profile I see you are from Brainerd, I am originally from up that way too and get back there once in a while. I have a bit of S3 Silvertip left, how many oz. do you need?




Bryan"



No I haven't done anything yet, canoe is still hanging in the garage... if we ever get some nice weather I will make time to fix it. the spot I need to fix is about a 1 inch chip that needs to be filled in, so it wouldn't take much.



Appreciate the offer, I live just north of Brainerd off Gull Lake Dam Road.



"


Email sent.
 
DeterminedOrange
03/31/2014 05:01PM
  
WW,


Any luck finding some? From your profile I see you are from Brainerd, I am originally from up that way too and get back there once in a while. I have a bit of S3 Silvertip left, how many oz. do you need?


Bryan
 
Woods Walker
03/17/2014 06:27PM
  
I was wondering if anyone knew where I could buy some good epoxy for a repair in my 38 Special. I have an area about the size of a quarter in the bow ( Hit a SEX Rock while paddling full speed, went to dead stop )... it made me sick.

Anyway, I need a small amount, don't want to pay for a big jug & have it wasted. I built the canoe myself, so know how to repair it... just need a small amount of 2 part epoxy.
 
HighPlainsDrifter
03/17/2014 07:49PM
  

In your build, you probably used epoxy resin rather than polyester resin. And I think the rule is that epoxy resin is OK over polyester resin, but poly resin is not OK over epoxy resin....... So, that rules out a trip to the local automotive store to pick up poly resin on the cheap.


The smallest quantities that I have seen from manufacturers like System III, West, and MAS is pint of hardener ($26.00) and quart of resin ($34.00)....... But, after you fix the canoe you could always use the rest on building a paddle. Systems III claims an almost unlimited shelf life.


What you really need is a donation from someone who has a bunch hanging around.......


Systems III from Jamestown
 
Wables
03/17/2014 08:23PM
  
Do you ever get over to Duluth? I could spare a few pumps of Raka for you.
 
Bannock
03/26/2014 09:19PM
  
quote Woods Walker: "This is why Bannock



quote HighPlainsDrifter: "
And I think the rule is that epoxy resin is OK over polyester resin, but poly resin is not OK over epoxy resin....... So, that rules out a trip to the local automotive store to pick up poly resin on the cheap.
"



I tried to use some 7 it looked like hell... pulled it off before it cured"


I'm not talking poly resin. I mean epoxy glue. Something like this.