Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Boat Builders and Repair :: First build design decision; Freedom, Cruiser...
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1JimD |
If my memory hasn't totally failed me, there was a High School shop teacher that built beautiful canoes in St Cloud. He built using one of MCAs plans, and would bring a boat to the Mid West Mountaineerings Spring auction. Steve ? Back to Johns build. I've heard great things about the Freedom 17, and a lot of people have built it. I'd try and use every inch of that 18' lumber ! A 17'6" would make a great tripper, Just add a 1/4" to the form spacings. Jim |
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tumblehome |
The Cruiser appears to have a slightly flatter bottom but I can only tell by the drawings on the web site. Flat bottom boats do not handle well in waves. This is where a slightly shallow arched hull will help you. The canoe will stay level in waves where as a flat bottom canoe tends to ride with the waves. I really like both canoes. The Bear Mountain design says there is a little tumblehome but I can't see it and says it's slightly rockered but I don't know how much that is. As you exceed 1 1/2" of rocker the canoe will not track as straight. And the Bear Mountain canoe is not very wide so fitting number four Duluth packs in it will be tighter. Everything is a trade with a canoe. tom |
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jlwags |
Just joined the forum but lurking here while preparing for trips the last two years. I am going to build a stripper this year that will be used for tripping for years to come. I have only made two trips, and have paddled a few boats during those trips and I own a Bob's special that I use for general rec paddling. I liked paddling the Wenonah MN iii (rented, had 3 guys) on a trip this past summer, and a friends MN ii and want to build a tripping canoe. I don't really want to get much bigger that that; considered 18' but my building space would be just a little too small, and I have white cedar boards for strips that are 18' or a little under, and those two factors, while not insurmountable, has me interested in 17. And I'm a smaller guy, so 17' should be fine. I have it narrowed to a Bear Mountain Freedom 17 or a Northwest Canoe Cruiser, but open to others. Easy to find opinions and critiques of the Freedom, wanting more performance info on the Cruiser. I have searched on this forum and elsewhere, and mostly people just say they love/like their Cruiser. Can anyone compare handling these two boats? Or compare to Wenonah MN ii? Anyone with a Cruiser give a feel for how they handle in rough water? Is it a wet design into waves? Easy to move hull? Things like that. Any input greatly appreciated! Thanks, John |