Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Quetico Forum :: Campsite Sanitation
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Pinetree |
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Banksiana |
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Ho Ho |
That said, every once in a while you find a site where people have been jerks. Alas, the deficiencies of some members of the human race cannot be escaped no matter where you go. |
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AdamXChicago |
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timatkn |
quote Ho Ho: "...but the TP is forever, and animals dig it up. " Don't disagree on disposal, but TP doesn't last forever. It biodegrades completely in most studies in 1-5 months depending on weather conditions. Faster if it is raining a lot and buried. TP |
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schweady |
quote timatkn: "There are occasionally bad sites,but it is better than years ago just because fewer people go I think." Huh. Back when I was a very young child, my mother taught me that it was important to go every day... |
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Pinetree |
quote OldFingers57: "We have found more tin foil in fire pits then TP all over the sites. " It is very rare to find toilet paper,but it happens. Also on the market there is toilet paper used for cesspools. It breaks down almost immediatly(sp) when it gets wet. So maybe check out different toilet paper as far as biodegradable. Yes tin foil is quite common. |
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GeoFisher |
quote Pinetree: "quote OldFingers57: "quote Pinetree: "quote OldFingers57: "We have found more tin foil in fire pits then TP all over the sites. " My very UNSCIENTIFIC findings...... I visited the exact same campsite I did 18 months ago. I dug cat holes in the exact same place I did 18 months ago. PERFECT THRONE space....... I found exactly ZERO evidence that I had dumped my crap in that place 18 months ago. No Poo, No paper, no nothing...... I find it quite amusing ............. Later, Geo |
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Pinetree |
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timatkn |
quote Pinetree: " one study " Yea that's the study I quoted and linked to at the beginning of this thread, buried TP (charmin 2 ply)took about 6 weeks to fully decompose in the study. T |
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GeoFisher |
quote Pinetree: " one study " I will be glad to send you locations for my crap piles.......I know where everyone is located. Seriously, I crapped in the same spot on the same campsites multiple times, on multiple different years, and Never ONCE have I dug up a shit pile or toilet paper. Hell, I'm almost ready to do my own scientific study in my back yard, dumping, burying and digging up a shit pile just to see........ |
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GeoFisher |
quote timatkn: "quote Pinetree: " one study " 6 weeks is quite acceptable............ |
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ObiWenonahKenobi |
What is the campsite sanitation issue like these days? Are people practicing "cat sanitation"? Or is toilet paper strewn all over the ground out behind the camping areas? I suppose this will depend on the site and how far from entry points they are. |
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old_salt |
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timatkn |
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OldFingers57 |
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timatkn |
quote schweady: "quote timatkn: "There are occasionally bad sites,but it is better than years ago just because fewer people go I think." Touché Very funny...and true |
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Pinetree |
quote OldFingers57: "quote Pinetree: "quote OldFingers57: "We have found more tin foil in fire pits then TP all over the sites. " Very interesting. Wonder what kind of environment it was done in. Amount of rain-temperatures? |
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OldFingers57 |
quote Pinetree: "quote OldFingers57: "We have found more tin foil in fire pits then TP all over the sites. " The TP for septic systems or that is advertised as biodegradable needs to be in a liquid environment like a septic tank. A cat hole in the woods doesn't provide enough water and allows it to dry out between rains. Backpacker magazine did a study of TP and waste in catholes over a year. They found very little of the human waste or TP degraded in a years time. There was not much of a difference between the biodegradable and regular cheap thin TP. |
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OldFingers57 |
quote Pinetree: "quote OldFingers57: "quote Pinetree: "quote OldFingers57: "We have found more tin foil in fire pits then TP all over the sites. " It was done in a woods type of environment, unknown what type of trees but I imagine hardwoods and was done in normal temps for a whole year. They dug up different cat holes at different amounts of time. For instance like 1 month, 3 months, 6 months etc. to check on how the waste and type of TP were breaking down. |