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First time poster. I'm looking through the Quetico Regs and found this. (I cut out the parts that I don't have questions about: Canoe/Kayaks: Canadian Boating Safety regulations require: One buoyant heaving line no less than 15 m (49’3”) in length One bailer or one manual water pump fitted with or accompanied by sufficient hose Is this for real? Thanks, PG |
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OldFingers57 |
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cowdoc |
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butthead |
"Safety Equipment Requirements Boats licensed or registered in a country other than Canada Foreign boats (those that are licensed or registered in a country other than Canada) need to comply with the equipment requirements of the country in which the boat is usually kept." Page 57 of Safe Boating Guide - Transport Canada butthead |
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GraniteCliffs |
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rdricker |
"Note 3 – Bailer and Manual Bilge Pump A bailer or manual bilge pump is not required for a boat that cannot hold enough water to make it capsize or a boat that has watertight compartments that are sealed and not readily accessible." So if your canoe has sealed bow and stern pockets, you do not need a bailer. Northern Tier up there uses canoes like that. You need a throw line, but not a bailer...also notice that it doesn't state what a bailer is....you could probably make the case that your Nalgene is your emergency bailer. |
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timatkn |
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carmike |
If the seas are so heavy that water is filling the boat, I can't imagine putting down the paddle to try to bail out the boat. Maybe it's a good idea to carry one, and I'm no expert in such things, but would it be a good idea in such a condition to have one of the paddlers start bailing (vs. paddling for whatever relief is possible)? |
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pescador |
I have been in a few canoeing situations where a bailer was necessary. Is it able to save a solo canoeist in high winds? I am not sure. Previous experience and common sense probably are much better tools for that end. |
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timatkn |
carmike: "I've always been curious about the requirement for a bailer....if only for Canucks. Great question, I never really thought about it before...I am certainly no expert but I have about 30 extended paddling trips...some in very wet rough weather and I can never remember a time where I thought “hey wish I had a bailer”...so I don’t get their use. When I first started I used to see people hauling sponges in their canoe...actually I ended up picking up a lot of sponges on portages so technically I hauled a lot of sponges, but in my case they were thrown away in the garbage upon leaving the BWCAW. Never understood that either? Obviously weren’t that important because of how many were left behind and I rarely see them now so their use seems way down. T |