Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Quetico Forum :: Finding the fish on Brent / Conmee
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SummerSkin |
If you recover it, I’ll let you keep the GoPro. I did get a few photos on an older backup camera and will post those when I find a card reader for it. |
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HighnDry |
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SummerSkin |
PineKnot: "Did that route you suggest at the beginning of our trip last summer....what are your route plans after Brent and your trip length?" We’ll be in the park 8 nights. We plan to at least go on up to Conmee. We don’t have a specific schedule we’re keeping. We’re not base camping the whole time, but if the fishing is good in one area, we might stay there a couple of days. A couple of the guys want to go on to Delahey / Veron so they can say they did the Death March. I personally have no interest or pride in doing that, so we’ll see. Beyond that, we’ve talked about going into Suzanette and perhaps back down to Crooked / Iron, but I’m not sure we’re going to want to do all that traveling. Would love to hear your thoughts on the area and distance we’re traveling. |
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SummerSkin |
Regarding the creek from the Darkwater River to Wicksteed, I think your suspicion is correct. We paddled up into the mouth of the creek where there was a small waterfall and took a few photos / video. But from what I remember, it would be a real chore getting a canoe up above the waterfall, and I don't recall it being large enough to sustain a canoe (otherwise we probably would have tried, haha). And keep in mind, water levels were pretty high when we went. Further north on the river, we did try to paddle up Andrews Creek into Andrews Lake (up towards Eat-em-up Portage), but we turned around once we encountered the first beaver dam. If we had the energy we probably would've pushed through, but we were just tired and it was hot that day. I think that would make for a pretty fun adventure if one has time for it. You probably already know about this but if you're going to day trip into Darkwater, it might be worth checking out Ballard which is a short, easy portage. Even if you don't want to go up into the lake, you could at least explore the waterfall from Ballard into Darkwater. That waterfall was gorgeous. We hung out there for a while taking photos (which sadly are now at the bottom of Minn). Sounds like your group is kind of like ours -- agile and adventurous. Lots of good adventures to be had up in that area. |
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SummerSkin |
1) Do you think it's doable to make it into Brent on day 1 via this route? We go super lightweight and plan to single portage. 2) For those who have been in that area, how do you locate the fish on Brent / Conmee? I am not necessarily looking for specific spots -- not trying to get out of doing the work myself -- but we're not taking depth finders, and those are big lakes. I've found some good intel on those lakes in some older posts on this forum. Just wondering if anyone else might have any further insight they could share. Thank you in advance -- this forum has been invaluable in planning our trips in the past! |
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cburton103 |
Working hard the first day afforded us a layover day on Brent to fish, so we thought it was worth it. We're two experienced, fairly fit 30 year olds who pack reasonably light (except fishing gear) and single portage. Sounds like that may fit you guys as well. I would probably rather stay on Wicksteed than Darky though. Really pretty lake, way less people on it when we paddled through. Very clear water if memory serves me correctly, and lots of islands. If you're already pretty spent on Wicksteed, set up camp there and enjoy your first day. Otherwise, push on to Brent. As far as fishing goes, I've been on Brent twice, each time for two nights. The first time was June 2015 just east of the long east/west portion in the middle of the lake, and the second time was June 2018 in the western portion. We didn't just slay the fish either time, but managed to catch a nice variety each time. We did best for Walleye around points and in the narrows area in the center of Brent. Smallies and pike casting towards shorelines like normal. Lakers in several of the big, open basins, and also around the really popular island campsite to the southwest of the narrows. Let me know if you have any questions! Really nice area, especially the western end of Brent. Tons of water to fish. We like fishing for Lakers in Cone as well, just south of the west end of Brent. My best walleye to date at 28" came out of Conmee trolling a blue shad rap in the middle of the day around some points and islands. |
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SummerSkin |
We are all 4 hammock campers as well, but we never had a notion to camp anywhere other than an established campsite. It seems like most shore is so overgrown and thick that it wouldn't be an enjoyable experience camping there. I'm remembering the shore along the Darky River and it seems like it was pretty thick. According to our map there was a campsite at the river's big bend, but we didn't see any signs of one. I suppose if you're experienced you know what to look for. We didn't have much luck fishing in the Darky River either, other than smallmouth at the bottom of the rapids. |
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SummerSkin |
We are all 30-somethings, in decent shape, and we have this weird thing where we like to make the first day of the trip as physically challenging and exhausting as possible. It just feels so good to set up camp that first night knowing you totally pushed (and drained) yourself to get to where you are. (Helps in the sleep department as well.) So heading for Brent on day 1 sounds like it'll give us just the challenge we're looking for. We do pack light -- maybe 30 - 35 lbs per person -- and our aim is always to single portage. @cburton, appreciate you letting me know to watch the compass while on Wicksteed. I'll certainly make a note of that. |
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HighnDry |
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old_salt |
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Hillbilly |
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jphares44 |
I've only fished the western part of Brent, but I know as you get into Brent from the portage, that large open-water basin is very deep and holds lakers. We had really good SMB fishing in the two bays to the north of that spot that form somewhat of a horseshoe. Unfortunately, that's about all of Brent that we've hit. Two years ago our outfitter marked up the William/Brent/Conmee area on a Fisher map, and I'd be happy to email you a .jpg file I have of that if you're interested. |
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BassmasterP |
When we camp off the beaten path we usually look for big glades or sheets of bedrock up in the woods. we found a few last time we were there as we were paddling out in the morning. Took pictures and mark them on the GPS so that we could consider camping there this time around. There were several on Brent, Argo, Earl, and a few unnamed lakes that we really look forward to fishing! I'm dictating this on my phone so it's cumbersome to look back at older posts. Perhaps you can remind me... what stretch of the darky River did you float? We intend 2 camp our first night on wicksteed and then leave our camp and do a day trip South into Darky then back North up the Darky River and then either portage back to wicksteed (there seems to be one portage that comes into the Northeast side of wicksteed) or go further up the darky River and then take the small Creek that leads back to the north side wicksteed. my suspicion is that that Creek holds very little water and will probably have us doing more hiking than paddling. If you spent any time on that stretch of the river I would love to hear what it is like. Shallow? Deep? Rocky? Sandy? Just curious. I will post here when we get back and also put a link to our video which will probably take another year to create! Pat |
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Stumpy |
Good chance of having wind at back too, as you're heading East. We went through Brent and camped on Suzanette once, on our first day, starting from Prairie Portage. Had plenty of time to fish that first evening too. |
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PineKnot |
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BassmasterP |
We did Brewer to Wicksteed in late August of 2017. We hung at Wicksteed a day - amazing pike fishing - and then on to Brent on day 3 and and Ted on day 4. We departed Anderson's in a light rain and got poured on from the time they dropped us off at Brewer until we made it to James Lake via the Goat. Adrenaline does wonders because we, too, crushed the Devil's Portage and felt pretty amazing when the sun broke through just in time for piping hot cappuccino on one of the James Lake islands. I laugh because I have footage (reddyss.com/Q) of myself turning to the camera and saying, "THAT, on day 3, was way harder than the Goat Portage on day one!" in reference to the Little Darky to Brent trail. To do both Gaot and that one in a single day would be brutal. A fun challenge, but brutal. So glad you posted a recap. We are headed back the 1st week of September for another 10 day. Without naming all the lakes, we go... Brewer, Wicksteed, Brent, Earl, Ted, Hurn, Elk, Cone, Argo, Crooked, Iron. There are 3 of us and we all sleep in hammocks so we camp in unusual places - like on the Darky River and several no-name lakes between Brent and Earl. Amazing night fishing for GIANT SM and Pike on one of those no name lakes! PMR Our 2017 Quetico Movie |
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SummerSkin |
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SummerSkin |
We drove through the night from Cincinnati and arrived at Anderson's around 6 a.m. They towed us out at 7 a.m., and we were on the water around 9 a.m. It was cold (50ish), overcast, and the wind was blowing west AGAINST us the entire day's trip. We did single portage that day. We crushed Goat. It was challenging, but it was a blast. And then we got to the unnamed lake and realized one of our 4 guys had left his fishing rods at the entrance to Goat. So he got to do Goat twice in one day. :-) By the time we made it to Wicksteed, it had started to rain. By the time we made it to Darky, the wind had picked up even more. We were cold but not quite miserable thanks to good rain gear. We kept paddling. I remember at one point, between a couple of islands on Darky, looking at the island shore to my right and thinking, "Huh. We're not moving." The two islands had created a channel of sorts that the water was rushing through, and with the wind against us, we were nearly stationary. Towards the end of Darky, I almost started falling asleep while paddling. Of course, we hadn't really slept in about 36 hours at that point. THEN we encountered the portage from Darky to Brent...that almost broke us. We were so exhausted, and that portage threw a bit of everything at us. Elevation change, rocks, ankle-sucking mud, a quick hop back in the canoes and then back out for more portaging...and to top it off the rain had picked up in intensity and had become absolutely bone-chilling. Whoever said the Darky portage was worse than the Goat was spot on. I think it has more to do with expectations than anything. It just sucked. We set off on Brent in the late afternoon. The rain tapered off, and an eery white mist encompassed the lake as far as the eye could see. We paddled through the more open western section of the lake and around into the channel, heading northeast. We took the 5-star island campsite in the eastern channel and basecamped there a few days. We didn't see another single soul while we were there. Even though the weather continued to be less than ideal, Brent is hands-down my favorite lake in the Q now. It has everything -- solitude, scenery, good fishing, plenty of areas for exploration and day tripping, and not too much big water to contend with. So to answer my original question, getting from Brewer to Brent in a day is easily doable if you're single portaging and the weather is good. More difficult if the weather is bad, but still doable if you're in decent shape. And maybe close to impossible if you're double-portaging. Everyone we mentioned our route to said, "Oh, the fish are bigger on Brent." And they were right. Everything we caught was consistently 15 - 20% bigger than what we typically catch in the Q. The smallmouth were HUGE. I hooked into a nice size laker that spazzed out when I almost had her landed and snipped my line. I hit the grand slam on Brent, plus one species (sauger). I'm thankful for the one walleye I hooked, because the walleye were nowhere to be found elsewhere the entire time we were in the park. Others reported the same thing. We wound up not going up to Conmee because the first day's trip wrung us out pretty well, plus Brent gave us everything we wanted. On our way back out, went through William and the Darkwater river so as to avoid that nasty Darky portage. We spent a couple of days on Darky. Almost every campsite was occupied. I've never seen a lake in the Quetico so crowded ("crowded" being a relative term here). Thanks to everyone who provided info and marked up maps for this trip. You all really helped. And thanks to Anderson's Canoe Outfitters...they always treat us right and do a great job. |
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jphares44 |
Hillbilly: "We did this trip and got to Brent in one day but everyone hated it. We were not single portaging though so that made it worse and had a few newbies on the trip. If you are single portaging and experienced I think its fine... the other issue is getting a camp once you get to Brent if you get unlucky and the 1st couple are taken you could still be paddling up the lake for a while. But I like this idea to get away from the crowds Darky has always had too many people in it for me... Yeah, I agree. Darky is kind of a "hub" of sorts. We always just paddle through it. Beautiful lake and the pictos draw a lot of people, but we push on through...or stay on Wicksteed the first night. We've made it to William in one day, took about 8.5 hours. I just think the Darky to Brent portage, after doing the Goat Hill, would be pretty tough. Doable, but tough. You'll be tired, you'll be sore, but you'll be on Brent! |