Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Quetico Forum :: TP Burning
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billconner |
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MagicPaddler |
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em8260 |
canoe campers, thats who...I have also seen this in the bwca in non-motor areas, truly disappointing. You made the effort to come this far, at least pretend that you care and do the right thing. Ill never forget my FIRST trip, ep16. I saw this at my first camp site, probably 15 feet from the cooking area, toilet paper in the trees/branches and behind rocks, ZERO effort to even conceal it. "people" like that have ZERO business going or being allowed in these places. If your going to act like an uncivilized turd, stay home... |
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Wables |
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mjmkjun |
schweady: "True that, cowdoc. We have found areas of mass dumping right in camp, even in canoe-only BWCAW sites with existing - and usable - latrines. Pretty disgusting. Looks just like the condition I found the island site on Long Island Lake a few years ago. Add a soiled baby diaper to make the scene complete. That disgusting mess was about 12 ft from water's edge, too. ugh! |
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PineKnot |
Captn Tony: "Not a big deal. No Sh*t. |
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4keys |
In the morning, we knew they did not find their buddies. They had pitched their tent on top of a hill, right next to the bear hanging pole... and in the middle of a lot of highly visible tp. Guess they didn't turn on their flashlights and check out the area. |
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mgraber |
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Jaywalker |
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arctic |
I bury poop and burn TP on site. |
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schweady |
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tumblehome |
Mad_Angler: "This is one reason that I prefer the BW system. I like a fixed latrine that is a good ways from camp. At least most of the poop is way back there. It is not randomly hidden around camp like some gruesome Easter egg hunt..." While I oppose any modern conveniences in Quetico, I would not be the loudest critic if they installed latrines at established campsites. Not for my use so much but for those that just can't find it in their heart to get rid of their TP. I'm with Stumpy. Finding my poop would be like winning the lottery. It ain't gonna happen. Tom |
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unshavenman |
Stumpy: "I ain't burnin Sh*t. +1. I'm waaaaaay back in the woods digging my hole. I don't find other people's messes and they don't find mine. |
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bhouse46 |
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scotttimm |
MidwestFirecraft: "Banksiana: "Quetico policy is that TP be burned (preferably in a fire pit) or packed out. Burning in the woods can be a wildfire risk My girls, who have to pee in the middle of the night when I am asleep, that's who. They don't want to walk alone in the dark back to the latrine and so they "sneak pee" next to a tree close to the tent. You better believe I make them pick up all the paper in the morning. lol. I can imagine other campers doing the same but not having the respect or thought to clean up after it...that pisses me off. pun intended. |
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TrailZen |
billconner: "I did a backing trip in Utah last June - High Uintas - and they require packing out TP. Read and best course seemed to be double zip locks with a tablespoon or two of powdered bleach. It worked great. Never gross or smelly at all. I'd have no trouble if both the Q and BWCA went to pack it out. The bleach was a great tip." In 2008 we did a family kayak trip to Lake Powell, where everything must be carried out. Everything. We used WAG Bags for waste management, and collected "used" WAG Bags in a scented trash bag inside a drybag. Slight odor after a 5-day trip, but manageable, especially considering what most campsites would look like without their use. TZ |
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Savage Voyageur |
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Mad_Angler |
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Mad_Angler |
When traveling with my wife and 4 daughters, we'd have a grocery bag hung near camp. The girls would deposit the paper in there. They didn't want to walk all the way to the latrine just to pee. We'd haul out the TP with the rest of the trash... |
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Stumpy |
I also guarantee, nobody's going to find mine. You'd have to go over & through many downed trees, and bring a dog and shovel, to do so. |
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nctry |
I wouldn’t profile any one group of people. All are guilty... even wcpp had places you just had to shake your head. But all in all not bad. As far as burning? Let’s just say again, you’ll never find mine. Haha. |
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Banksiana |
I am routinely disgusted and disappointed by Q campers that leave their calling cards and paper blooms ridiculously close (occasionally on lesser tent sites) to camp. For crying out loud, spend a couple of minutes to put a hundred yards or more between your camp and your toilet. |
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bobbernumber3 |
Just wondering if anyone has picked up the TP burning habit? |
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MagicPaddler |
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HowardSprague |
Stumpy: "I ain't burnin Sh*t. Well, I'll be a ........... Stumpy! I'm with you on something! :) |
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Jackfish |
Banksiana: "Quetico policy is that TP be burned (preferably in a fire pit) or packed out. " Banks (or anyone else), do you have a reference that states this policy? I've been unable to find anything. |
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tumblehome |
I truly wish people would not burn TP. I'm ready to vomit as I write this thinking that I will be cooking a piece of chicken in a fire pit that someone recently had burned their feces in before my arrival. It reminds me of a top ten thread someone started a few years ago asking if it was OK to burn diapers in a fire pit. Burning TP is not the solution. Burying it is. Tom |
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Banksiana |
Jackfish: "Banksiana: "Quetico policy is that TP be burned (preferably in a fire pit) or packed out. " This is what I've been told in the presentation at the Ranger Station at Prairie Portage for the last three years. They have a binder that functions like a power point and they page through it with your party prior to entering the park. They are clear in wanting you to pack it out or burn it in the fire pit. I still can't understand why people can't put some distance between camp and toilet. If campers head relatively deep in the woods this problem is greatly diminished. I agree with MagicPaddler and Tumblehome that burning TP in your cooking area is problematic. If the fire is robust no problem. If you are trying to just burn TP it's an issue and is certainly a greater scourge than foil bits. And if you know a canoeing dentist named Greg from Fayetteville Arkansas give him grief for a particularly filthy fire pit awash in unburned plastic, paper (including paper with your name address and business on it), coils of fishline, food etc at a sweet campsite on an unnamed lake next to Basswood. Greg Y.... you and your party are pigs- for shame. |
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TDBauer |
Savage Voyageur: "I for one am never eating a meal from a fire grate again. It’s Mountain House for me. " Yep, you just summed it up for me as well. |
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MidwestFirecraft |
Banksiana: "Quetico policy is that TP be burned (preferably in a fire pit) or packed out. Burning in the woods can be a wildfire risk Just out of curiosity who do you think does this? Is it in spots where motors are allowed because that would fit a certain profile, but I would be surprised that a canoe camper would do that. |
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cowdoc |
MidwestFirecraft: "Banksiana: "Quetico policy is that TP be burned (preferably in a fire pit) or packed out. Burning in the woods can be a wildfire risk Any and everybody it seems. Late August 2017 trip, every nice campsites we stayed at had a white mine field out back. It seems that all of their outdoor skills and ethics hit a brick wall when "the call of nature" kicks in. No holes dug, no burying, no covering with debris.....just leave a mess and run. Not on motor lakes. The more popular the lake and nicer the site, the bigger the mess. |
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bhouse46 |
Some areas I am looking into visiting already require carry out and I suspect with the heavier use of many areas this will be more and more important unless vault systems are in place. Leave no trace is based on use over time, not just the one time visit. Probably time to look into how to carry out a little more closely. |
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GraniteCliffs |
Please take your business far, far back into the woods away from camp. FAR away from any fire pit that I might be using. Once there, dig your hole and do your business. Then burn your TP. Ensure it is completely out before covering it up. Never, ever, burn it in a fire pit. |
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Captn Tony |
Just build a very hot fire, throw in the tp and burn the crap out of it. |
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Freeleo1 |
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