Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Quetico Forum :: Will Quetico open?
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dentondoc |
tumblehome: "It is true. We are all guessing. Of course, I hope you are correct (since my entry date is about 2 weeks later than yours), but I'd put MY chances of a late June trip at about 70/30 against. My feeling is that WHENEVER our constraints are relaxed we are very likely to see a Covid-19 rebound which will cause us to constrict again. Based on that, I suspect you'll see an upward bounce of new Covid cases in about 10 days to 2 weeks based on Easter events. dd |
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bobbernumber3 |
I think June 1, Quetico will be closed. |
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deancal20 |
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24kGold |
Keeping my fingers crossed. Terry |
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billconner |
24kGold: "Yesterday, Trudeau said the border won't be opened anytime soon. That's vague, much like everything else right now, so who really knows. My trip is the second week of August, however, I would still need enough time to get the RABC processed in time for the trip. Since they're not even processing permits right now, I don't feel very good about a trip across the border this summer. In case timing gets tight, you still have the option of getting an RABC at a border crossing. From Canada Border Services Agency: In Person Applications can be made in person at any of the following ports of entry: Fort Frances Rainy River Pigeon River Sault Ste. Marie Emerson West Lynne Applications can also be made at the Thunder Bay CBSA office, located at 201 North May Street. |
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Argo |
Jackfish: "This is not a smart aleck answer, but seriously... with all the crap going on, who knows? I hope it does. Have to get the border open first." Just my opinion but It's most unlikely the border will re-open before intra-provincial barriers are lifted. At present, the provincial parks and crown land are closed to camping. If you live in Canada, that's your issue. If you live in the USA, the border is your issue. Even if Quetico re-opens, I think you can forget about using an RABC until the border is officially opened for non-essential movement. President Trump just recently made some sanguine comments about the border reopening. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/restrictions-at-canada-us-border-could-soon-be-eased-trump-suggests/ar-BB12GJRr?li=AAggNb9&ocid=iehp |
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MichiganMan |
dentondoc: "Of course, I hope you are correct (since my entry date is about 2 weeks later than yours), but I'd put MY chances of a late June trip at about 70/30 against. Man I hope you're wrong Doc. |
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HangLoose |
Johnh: "Justin Trudeau said the border closure will “undoubtedly” be extended beyond the current 30 day closure. Confidence of a Quetico trip happening in June is low." I don't doubt this but do you have a source for this announcement? A Google search for anything related to Trudeau on the border turns up nothing in the past few days. Where'd you see this remark from Trudeau? |
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QueticoMike |
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billconner |
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QueticoMike |
So maybe if you live in Canada you might be able to visit Quetico on June 1st. Americans still do not know if the borders will be open on June 1st. I cancelled my permit today. Maybe I will go late June or late August if the borders are open. |
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peleechickadee |
Personally, I can't see any Ontario Parks being open by our holiday weekend (May 18th) as it may cause overcrowding as people escape from the city. We also have a fire ban in the province currently, and no camping is even allowed on Crownland. This basically leaves your own backyard (if you have one) as the only place to camp currently in Ontario. Hopefully we hear something soon, I have a two week canoe trip planned. |
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SummerSkin |
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unshavenman |
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Eyedocron |
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Argo |
deancal20: "We are scheduled for June 2 but the burn ban maybe the real problem. Even if the border opens and Canada lets us come in, no fires including stoves is no fun and for us not even possible. I think it is a way for the gov. to keep our permit money because they can say it is open but we chose to stay home. Just my opinion..." There is a campfire ban but I believe it is part and parcel of the camping ban. Fire bans are always a possibility regardless of covid-19 considerations. There's a lot of objectionable ways the government reaches into our pockets but your complaint is a bridge too far for me. |
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GraniteCliffs |
I suspect that I have entered the park at least once a year for the past 45 years. I can’t imagine a year without passing thru Prairie at least once. I guess that I enter at the north side again just to keep the streak alive. I guess not a bad problem to have. |
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Johnh |
Generally it looks like The White House wants to get it open and the Canadians are not eager to do so and making remarks to signal that. I expect the WH can apply economic pressure or offer incentives so they might agree to an early opening. Here is an AP story AP Story |
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GraniteCliffs |
@$”&:!!! |
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Argo |
Caboose: "As of right now, it appears Quetico park will reopen after April 30th (https://www.ontarioparks.com/covid19). I don't read April 30 as the date the parks open. Only a standby date. My hope is that the one-size-fits-all park closure status is at least amended to accommodate interior camping. Almost all of the large interior camping parks have car camping facilities too. These two types of camping should not be married under the same policy in my opinion. |
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Minnesotian |
I think this one will really depend on Canada and not necessarily the United States. I think by June 1st, the United States government will be saying everything is fine and that the border should be opened, but my guess is that Canada will be a bit more cautious and will still have the border closed. |
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tumblehome |
I am guessing that the borders will open by June. Both the governments and their citizens are growing increasing uncomfortable with the economic losses. My trip is for June 10 and I am full steam ahead. Tom |
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Luckee |
Of course my older sister, an MD, tells me it would be crazy to fly in a plane any time before next winter. I'm trying to balance that against the certainty that I'll go crazy if I can't do some summertime paddling trips. |
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toothmiester |
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cburton103 |
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Johnh |
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TominMpls |
Honestly I like going during fire bans because other members of my group can't talk me into having a fire, which is lots of work for little payoff and a headache the next day from ingesting the smoke. But regardless of your opinion about fires, it's a big stretch to argue that a fire ban is an attempt by the government to take your money. |
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toothmiester |
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SummerSkin |
“Reservations for arrivals up to and including the extended closure date will be automatically cancelled and you will receive a full refund with no penalty. There is no need for you to cancel your reservation online or through the call centre or contact Ontario Parks to receive your refund.” |
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AmarilloJim |
toothmiester: "I thought everyone would like to know I just received a cancellation notice from Quetico Park for my May canoe trip and the park is closed util May 30th. Darn" My cancelation says May 31. Which was my entrance date. |
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Banksiana |
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GraniteCliffs |
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felknerj |
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Jackfish |
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QueticoMike |
Here's what the one I received yesterday said....... This email is in follow up to our email of April 25, 2020 which advised that the Ministry of the Environment, Conservation and Parks is extending the closure of Ontario Parks to May 31, 2020. This message is regarding your reservation for an arrival date up to or including May 31, that extends into June 2020. To ensure you have the opportunity to retain the portion of your reservation beyond the closure date of May 31, 2020, your reservation will not be cancelled automatically. Please log in to your account at reservations.ontarioparks.com to change your arrival date to June 1, 2020 or cancel your reservation altogether. No fees or penalties will apply. |
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Caboose |
But the Canadian border is closed until May 20th. Hopefully that won't be extended (again). We have a trip planned on May 27th and are crossing our fingers tightly! |
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Argo |
billconner: "Start to open things in Ontario in mid May perhaps. I'm trying to square this with the park closing ban and the campfire ban. I don't know for sure but I don't believe they are related. The parks are closed until April 30. The declaration of emergency appears to be something different - related to businesses and schools. I expect that an announcement regarding the parks should coming shortly. I camp in French River PP every May 1. The one thing that's for sure is that it's no-go if campfires are banned. It's impossible to stay warm enough in the evening otherwise. |
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billconner |
(Off this topic - where can I learn more about French River PP - beyond the FRPP website? Much closer to me - like 6 hours versus 20 to Quetico and BWCAW. Of course Algonquin is closer but cool on reserving every campsite - if I have that right.) |