Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Quetico Forum :: RABC Question
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Frenchy19 |
plander: " click here " Very nice! |
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Graybeard |
Is there an editable .pdf version of the 2023 BSF 386 form or do I download and fill in by hand? If so I assume I take a picture and submit? Any other oddities I should know about? Thanks!! |
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Frenchy19 |
When I completed the online application for my RABC a few eeks ago, I downloaded the pdf-and it was editable. I was able to do everything online and not print out a copy to fill in by hand. You can always call 1-800-461-9999; they are fantastic at actually answering their phone calls and offering help. |
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MarshallPrime |
I don't see anywhere where it needs a copy of my passport or any driver's license or anything. I'm pretty sure 3 years ago I had to do something like that. Do we not need to send it to them but we DO need to bring it when we check in at the Ranger Station I assume. thoughts? Am I missing something? |
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sns |
But I'm not the only one - the CBSA's link is nonfunctional, right? |
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sns |
plander: " click here " Anyone else having trouble getting to the RABC form today? I get a message about needing Adobe 8 or higher...but that should not be a problem for me. It's failing in multiple browsers and also on my phone. |
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plander |
sns: "plander: " click here " try this link I think that is the most recent form since it says something about 2022 permits being issued for entry thru 2023 (above credit card info on page 2). |
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plander |
sns: "Thanks plander, and thanks Piragis...that should work. Correct - it's nonfunctional again. That link I previously posted was working - sent me right to the pdf that could be filled out and printed from the web directly. It looks like it switched back to the issue in the past. Piragis always has one available - I just wasn't sure it was the correct form. I did check and it has the pull down window for planned entry location so I do believe it's the correct/most recent version of the form. FYI two of my buddies recently got the permit - it took three tries for each of them but that was due to issues of their own making, not the CBSA...to quote them: Dave (Jan 16): "Got my RABC permit on the third try! I think it says more about me than the Canadians'." Stefan (Jan 18): "Tried my hardest to beat Dave in the race for ‘application moron’, but failed. Got the RABC permit after three attempts as well." |
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MarshallPrime |
Also the link you had said that you have to send proof of Covid Vaccine. I was pretty sure I read that nothing was required for that anymore. |
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plander |
MarshallPrime: "So I just downloaded the form (had to use firefox, Chrome couldn't open it) and filled it out digitally...and am ready to email it to them as it states. See page two of the form for details on required documents. As for the form and required documents you need to submit them to the CBSA - see page four of the form for directions to submit. The email submission method works well and is probably the fastest - they will email you a pdf copy of your RABC permit. You carry this RABC permit with you when heading across the border to pick up your Quetico permit at the Ranger Station, but the Park Rangers will not ask to see it - it has nothing to do with them (they are a different agency). The RABC allows you to cross the border in certain areas and enter Canada without going though Canadian Customs - keep it on you at all times until back in the US. |
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Graybeard |
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portagedog09 |
kevheads: "It's been years since I've been in Quetico, but the 2022 BSF 386 has "proof of Vaccination" under the conditions, I'm guessing that doesn't apply anymore." You're correct - it doesn't. My son and I used that form and just ignored the vax stuff. Out applications were approved at the end of December with no issues. pd |
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goblu79 |
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Argo |
thegildedgopher: "I'm having issues with their PDF as well -- both with the form on the CBSA website and the version from Piragis. I can download and open it in Acrobat, and I can complete the fields fine, but it won't save the completed information in the PDF, which I need to do in order to email them a completed form. It says "You cannot save data typed into this form. Please print a your completed form if you would like a copy for your records." Well that's fine if I was mailing it in, but I'm not. I suppose I could print it, and then scan it back in as a PDF? Seems ridiculously complicated for such a simple form?" Can't you just print and select your pdf writer as the print source? |
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thegildedgopher |
Argo: "thegildedgopher: "I'm having issues with their PDF as well -- both with the form on the CBSA website and the version from Piragis. I can download and open it in Acrobat, and I can complete the fields fine, but it won't save the completed information in the PDF, which I need to do in order to email them a completed form. It says "You cannot save data typed into this form. Please print a your completed form if you would like a copy for your records." Well that's fine if I was mailing it in, but I'm not. I suppose I could print it, and then scan it back in as a PDF? Seems ridiculously complicated for such a simple form?" You would think so! When I try that, Acrobat says "Saving a PDF file when printing is not supported. Instead, choose File > Save." -- But of course there is no File > Save option. And if you choose File > Save as, it will only save a blank copy of the form. This is on a Mac. I'm going to try on my wife's PC but this is just dumb. |
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Minnesotian |
Another option that works on my computer, so your mileage may vary, is to fill out the information in the online .PDF (name, address, card, etc) and then go to the print option but instead of printing a hard copy, choose to save as a PDF (or "print" as a PDF) If you have that option. Worked for me, all my filled in information was there and I didn't have to print, fill, and scan back in. |
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thegildedgopher |
goblu79: "I had to print, scan and save. I hope they take it. I sent it in 2 weeks ago, and hoping to hear back next week. " Please keep us posted! I was hoping to submit much sooner but have been waiting for my kid’s passport card to arrive in the mail (came yesterday). Our trip is June 15 so fingers crossed. |