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mapsguy1955
02/10/2017 11:08AM
  
Leave No Trace... There are people on all public lands who have never even HEARD of that... Not to mention those who don't care. This is exactly why crappy education makes mankind a terminal species. Sorry for the negative feelings. Quetico to me is Heaven. It is to be appreciated and nurtured. If you can't do both, please don't go.
 
DancesWithTrees
02/07/2017 08:36AM
  
So, it's possible this has been discussed before, but my searches didn't find it. So here goes...

I am just finishing the Peruniak book an Illustrated History of Quetico. Great book, by the way. As I read through it, I find myself dog-earing pages that mention locations (general or specific) of various cabins, stations, towers, archaeological sites, dams, barges, etc., for future reference.

I love finding stuff like that. I've happened upon stuff at times (cabins on Baptism and Quetico, barge on Sturgeon, logging stuff on Conk, grave site on the Kawnipi-MacKenzie portage, Kash tower, etc.). But wouldn't be cool to have a map of them?

There's already that online map of Quetico with campsite and portage reports (). It wouldn't be hard to allow people to add similar data points for these historical sites. One could even make a cool trip out of seeking out such places. I would do that.

I realize part of the risk here is, if you point out these sites in a precise way, it's possible some people would vandalize them. But we are talking about Quetico here, and I think the very great majority of folks would do no such thing. People who vandalize historical items and sites, in my experience, are usually in national parks and places with easy access.

Anyone thought of doing this? Has it been discussed? Good or bad idea?

 
old_salt
02/07/2017 09:05AM
  
If you visit with folks at Dawson Trail, they will point out such places for you. No need to put it on the internet. Some enjoy the discovery.
 
old_salt
02/07/2017 04:17PM
  
quote dentondoc: "quote DancesWithTrees: "I realize part of the risk here is, if you point out these sites in a precise way, it's possible some people would vandalize them. But we are talking about Quetico here, and I think the very great majority of folks would do no such thing. People who vandalize historical items and sites, in my experience, are usually in national parks and places with easy access."
Perhaps that is your experience, but not mine. I hope the grave site that you reference above wasn't desecrated to the extent of the one I visited in Quetico (and not the one you mentioned). And, although I've not seen this exact thing in Quetico, I've witnessed it in to other parks further north than Quetico ... scrapings on rocks removing all lichens (and anything else) proudly proclaiming "'stupid' was here." That is not to say that I've not witnessed tree carvings and cutting of green trees in Quetico. Do people actually go to Quetico and leave their brain at home? "Its all about me" mentality makes me sick.


dd"


That's my point. We don't need this information on the internet. That's why I direct folks to Dawson Trail.
 
RC
02/07/2017 03:12PM
  
I wonder if some of the things mentioned in the book might not be there any longer because the book was published in 2000. It would be nice to add those types of things to maps, if current info was available.
 
dentondoc
02/07/2017 03:25PM
  
quote DancesWithTrees: "I realize part of the risk here is, if you point out these sites in a precise way, it's possible some people would vandalize them. But we are talking about Quetico here, and I think the very great majority of folks would do no such thing. People who vandalize historical items and sites, in my experience, are usually in national parks and places with easy access."
Perhaps that is your experience, but not mine. I hope the grave site that you reference above wasn't desecrated to the extent of the one I visited in Quetico (and not the one you mentioned). And, although I've not seen this exact thing in Quetico, I've witnessed it in to other parks further north than Quetico ... scrapings on rocks removing all lichens (and anything else) proudly proclaiming "'stupid' was here." That is not to say that I've not witnessed tree carvings and cutting of green trees in Quetico. Do people actually go to Quetico and leave their brain at home? "Its all about me" mentality makes me sick.

dd