Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Group Forum: Photography in the BWCA :: Mirrorless
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Get out and use it! I went mirrorless DSLR last April with a used Oly OMD EM5, via Ebay. 12x50mm EZ lens, added a M.ZUIKO ED 40-150MM. Happy with it and use it almost daily. It does have limitations, high speed action shots are one area (auto road races). Still learning it though. 12 photo sequence burst mode of my grandson sliding into second base. Used the 40-150 from behind 3rd. Lots of lens options from Oly and other 4/3rds makers along with a variety of adapters are finding their way into the used market. It will not replace my more traditional DSLRs, but is much nicer to carry and pack. It is the camera that stays at hand now. It shrunk the packed photo gear size and weight by half easily. I find it better to keep my camera at the exposed temp to keep fogging to a minimum. I pocket spare batteries to keep them warm. butthead |
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NotLight |
I have a Sony RX100 II that I end up using for winter skiing and snowshoeing. It's thin enough to keep inside my coat and keep warm. It also comes with a nice hard leather case and neck strap, so it's easy to carry and have handy, and yet incredibly well protected - the leather case isn't very big, but makes the camera nearly indestructible. But I still wish I could carry a DLSR. I have a Canon SL1 that's pretty small, but it is still big enough that it gets in the way. What I really need a smaller gut... Nonetheless, I decided to look into mirrorless cameras as someone suggested to me earlier. I really liked the Sony A7 II and the Sony A6300 . But I was appalled at the price and size of most of the lenses. So I decided to try out the much maligned and slow focusing Canon EOS M3 mirrorless APS-C camera. The only positive for the Canon is basically price, price, and price. And, minor but important detail, the Canon 20mm/f2 pancake lens seems to be a better one that the Sony equivalent for the A6300, and you can find it used for about half to a third the price. I was able to get the M3 with adapter for $300, and the 20mm/f2 for $150 used. A lot of money for an "experiment", but I think I can fit it under my jacket. Plus, for now with the free adapter that came in the $300 camera package, I can re-use my bigger Canon lenses. I am hoping maybe 3-5 years down the road Canon will get their mirrorless act together, and I can upgrade then. Or maybe I just work on a smaller gut. It just didn't seem like I could ever afford the nicer Sony A6300 and the lenses together. But in hindsight, I wish I would have started with an a6000. Here are some comparison pictures for size - Canon SL1, Canon EOS M3, and Sony RX100. Also, the EOS M3 with the adapter and my APS-C 10-18mm lens. |
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NotLight |
quote Mocha: "that's a whole lot of stuff i don't understand... Yes, at my house we call my last post "droning". What I meant to say was, "I got a mirrorless camera, now what?" |
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Mocha |
not knowing what temps you'd be out in i'd think the smallest camera would be the easiest to keep warm. do you keep it in a breast pocket or do you have an extra pocket sewn inside near the armpit area for maximum warmth? also not sure what you mean by "gut" so i don't want to assume anything other than you're speaking of a human body part or a camera body part :). if you are a professional then maybe you want to camera you'll get the most use from? i've had some spectacular results with a small camera as well as my larger camera that is bulky so i feel it's hit and miss for me, i also don't do much post-processing. your mother would tell you to only spend what you can honestly afford! but, you do what you want!! |
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NotLight |
This is the Rokinon 12mm/f2 ef-m lens: This is the Canon 22mm/f2 ef-m lens: This is a Canon 40mm/f2.8 lens: |
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NotLight |
quote jeroldharter: "So how is it going with the Canon ? I am a Sony fan by the way. Although expensive, I think you do get what you pay for with Sony. The camera bodies are relatively inexpensive but the nicer lenses are more expensive." I'm satisfied with the Canon M3, but I wouldn't recommend it to friends. I think Canons newer mirrorless cameras like M5/M6 are "almost" worth having, but they are probably two generations away from being competitive - and prices are too high for what they offer. That said, for me it's a question of "what lens?". Size, budget, image quality, what you already own, etc. So I decided to stick with Canon for now - I was really after the 22mm f2 lens. For others I would recommend Sony or micro 4/3rds. Here are some pictures. With the 22mm lens, the camera fits under my jacket to stay warm. In bright light I could actually get the M3 to focus with a 300mm lens and a 1.4x converter; but, the M3 struggles in low light with almost any lens. I had trouble with exposure with the overcast sky and the snow. I attribute that partly to user error, and partly to the camera. |
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