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AmarilloJim
06/21/2018 08:03AM
 
I tried some Loop alien tie outs my last trip and found them very nice. Are the DutchWare options any better or just personal preference?

 
daverr
06/21/2018 05:13PM
 
Are you talking about (1) tarp guy outs, (2) Tarp ridgeline tie outs, or (3) hammock suspension knots?



 
bwcasolo
06/22/2018 05:51AM
 
stingerz flyz
i use stingerz on my tarp ridgeline, and the flyz on my 4 tarp tie outs, if that answers your question. the stingerz are slick. no knots with these items.
 
ParkerMag
06/22/2018 10:00AM
 
bwcasolo: " stingerz flyz
i use stingerz on my tarp ridgeline, and the flyz on my 4 tarp tie outs, if that answers your question. the stingerz are slick. no knots with these items."

Close to the same here. I use Stingerz on the ridgeline, and Hook Worms on the tie-outs.
 
daverr
06/22/2018 09:48AM
 
Jim - For my tie-outs, I use this method utilizing line locs. I've used it for about 3 years and 4 trips in the BWCA with a lot of success. The only thing I would warn you about is to use 2.2 Zing it (the 1.8 stuff can slide though the line loc in high wind). I really like this method. Makes setting up the tarp a snap. And you can adjust the tension of the tarp from underneath during a downpour. You can buy line locs from DutchWare Gear.


For my ridgeline, I use tieouts on each end. My method is somewhat unique but gives me a ton of flexibility. First, I use DutchWare Fleaz and attach those to each end of the tarp on the ridgeline--they are never removed. Then I have a 12 foot zing it line for each side. Each of those ridgline tieouts has a locked brummell loop on one end and a spliced on Dutch Hook on the other. Using this method, I have two choices for each side in how to rig the tarp.


One: Usually, both sides are the same and like this: The loop is larks headed to the tarp ridgeline tie out, looped around the tree, and then attached to the Fleaz (which is attached to the ridgeline and allows you to tension the ridgeline). It looks like this.


Two: If trees are far apart, I detach the 12 foot line from the tarp (remove the larks head). I then loop the line around the tree and connect it to itself using the Dutch Hook. Then with the end, I connect it to the Fleaz in the same manner as before. It looks like this.

With method two, I can span trees up to 30+ feet apart. I've never had to do that but it is an option.
 
AmarilloJim
06/22/2018 10:16AM
 
daverr: "Are you talking about (1) tarp guy outs, (2) Tarp ridgeline tie outs, or (3) hammock suspension knots?



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Just tarp applications.