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AmarilloJim
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Corsair: "Lack of pre-trip shakedowns. Especially if going hiking."
I hear ya, and not the day before but the second before starting. It's amazing what kids and or parents will try and add to a pack.
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Corsair
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Lack of pre-trip shakedowns. Especially if going hiking.
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AmarilloJim
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Jackfish: "AmarilloJim: "...we did our own high adventure stuff. No BSA programs."
No BSA programs, as in Philmont, Northern Tier, Sea Base, etc.? If so, why not?
Not a knock on doing your own high adventure trips. Just curious about what you meant by No BSA programs."
Cost and more options. I can take 16-18 kids and adults to the BW for $200 per person.
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Grandma L
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Corsair: "Lack of pre-trip shakedowns. Especially if going hiking."
I totally agree! More training, shakedowns and parent participation.
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AmarilloJim
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I was asked by our local council to teach a course this winter on things outdoor chairs can do for weekend and high adventure trips. I did all the trip logistics for my troop for years (we did our own high adventure stuff. No BSA programs. What have some of you noticed as far as lack of preparedness or expectations from troops?
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Jackfish
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AmarilloJim: "...we did our own high adventure stuff. No BSA programs."
No BSA programs, as in Philmont, Northern Tier, Sea Base, etc.? If so, why not?
Not a knock on doing your own high adventure trips. Just curious about what you meant by No BSA programs.
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billconner
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I can't answer for Amarillo but our troop (before I moved) also avoided the BSA high adventure venues. Cost was one - 2 to 3 times more expensive than doing our own. More variety Denali, Rainier, somewhere in Idaho, and lots of BWCA and Quetico among other places. There was a feeling of self accomplishment - the Scouts did all route and activity planning. And ultimately a greater sense of being in the wilderness. It seemed to better keep the interest of the 16-18 crowd.
A few adults have in more recent years organized Philmont and Seabase treks. With over 100 Scouts (over 110 last I heard) lots of room.
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