Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Fishing Forum :: Braid vs. Mono
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backwoodshunter |
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lundojam |
Also braid around rocks is a bad idea. MONO! MONO! MONO!!! MONOOOOOOOO!!! Too far? Perhaps. |
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buzz17 |
Roughly 20lb pike on 20lb Spiderwire: First day walleye stringer caught on 8lb fluorocarbon |
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cyclones30 |
For me, braid for big baits and big fish. Mono/fluoro for walleye, jigging, slip bobbers, panfish. |
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Moonman |
Some people who use braid tie direct to lure or snap but I would only do that if tying to a leader. Other than that I always use and tie a good fluoro leader line to my braid, sometimes for stealth, sometimes in heavier weights for a bite leader. So for braid, I would recommend it for: Trolling (with fluoro leader for trout, titanium or heavier fluoro leader for pike) Jigging (with fluoro leader), especially water deeper than 25’ Casting shorelines (with light titanium leader) Mono Live bait presentations (slip bobbers, lindy rig etc) Mono is both limp and stealthier than braid. I’d recommend 8lb trilene xl. Keep in mind plenty of fish are caught with all kinds of lines, so the difference may not matter in the long run, but we all like to tinker with new things (especially me lol), what we think is the new better way etc. Also it’s always a good idea to use what you are used to and have had success with in the past when going on a wilderness trip. No stores out there and if you are disappointed or feel you don’t like it, you are stuck. So the best of all worlds would be two spools, one with each line. Moonman |
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CityFisher74 |
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mgraber |
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CoachWalleye74 |
I started with all mono, went to all flouro, now on braid to swivel to flouro leader. My only question is with mostly vertical jigging I lose a fair amount of jigs in the rocks. I'm hopeful that the flouro breaks around the jig tie and I'm not re-tieing flouro leaders all week. |
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RMinMN |
lundojam: "I learned to fish on mono. For that reason, I guess, I prefer it. Jigging lakers requires a hard line, though. Sharpen your hooks. You are losing fish because you don't have the penetration and with the braid there isn't the spring action to keep the hook in the fish. If the fish gets slack and the hook isn't well penetrated the hook comes out. |
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Sparkeh |
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minnesotashooter |
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WesternHills |
Mattbrome: "I have to agree with previous opinions for braid with a 3-5 foot (or so) fluro leader is the best all around setup. I'd also add that at your braid flouro connection tie in a small swivel A 3-5 foot leader with a swivel in between the braid and fluoro??? Sounds like hell to cast with. I don't even use an alberto or double uni because they snag on the eyelets. |
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NEIowapaddler |
WesternHills: "Mattbrome: "I have to agree with previous opinions for braid with a 3-5 foot (or so) fluro leader is the best all around setup. I'd also add that at your braid flouro connection tie in a small swivel I use 10lb braid with an 8lb flouro leader for most of my fishing, and I've had zero issues connecting the leader and the main line with a double uni knot. If it's snagging, you're either tying it wrong or using a rod with very small guides. |
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racsfear |
MtnBrowncoat: "I'm heading up to the Boundary Waters for the first time. I just got a Stradic Ci4+ and a Triumph Travel Rod as a graduation gift. What should I spool it up with? I'm planning on mostly targeting trout (lake, brook, splake etc) What type of line do you use and why? Thanks folks!" I will not say a bad idea but I appreciate your idea to gift a Triumph Travel Rod as a graduation gift but you are traveling all time. So there are certainly many things you can gift to someone who loves to travel. Such as gifting him/her A super packable daypack, An embroidered duffel, A mini instant-film camera, A wine holder that shows state pride, and more... |
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BWfishingfanatic12 |
WesternHills: "Mattbrome: "I have to agree with previous opinions for braid with a 3-5 foot (or so) fluro leader is the best all around setup. I'd also add that at your braid flouro connection tie in a small swivel I've always had that thought as well for people that use the barell swivel. Sounds like a nightmare to manage. There are a few specific techniques where I will use a barell swivel with a 2 or 3 foot fluoro leader but that is only in those specific scenarios. I tie the braid to fluoro as well but have not had issues with it ever catching or making much impact on my fishing. It probably reduces distance casting very slightly but that is it. When you tie it the profile of the knot should be pretty thin to not impact your casts. |
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missmolly |
However, now that I fish for largemouth in Maine, there's no way I'd fish with 6 lb. test. I use 20 lb. mono and braid in weeds and 50 lb. braid when froggin'. I fear the weeds more than the fish. |
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vandolomieu |
Moonman: "Honestly it really depends did on how you fish specifically, more than what species you are targeting. By that I mean presentation/technique. So if you want to absolutely maximize hits/numbers of fish etc, you should fine tune and use the best line or combo of line and leader for each presentation...obviously with overlaps on presentations. |
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minnesotashooter |
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mgraber |
NEIowapaddler: "Coach is right. Fireline is braid. Just because it's not "regular braid" doesn't mean it's not braid. " Agreed, but fluorocarbon line is monofilament (single filament) and yet we don't call it mono because that would be confusing and cause people to assume it is the same as regular mono. This is the exact same thing, why complicate the issue? I guess we need to get scientific about it, lol. The point remains, they do NOT fish the same, they are NOT the same line, and I mistakenly assumed people would understand that I preferred Fireline over standard multifilament braids for this purpose without going in to the actual manufacturing specifics. I went back and added the word "regular" to the original post, hopefully that will solve the problem. I swear, some people, smh. |
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Wables |
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ledhead |
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Mattbrome |
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bombinbrian |
I believe it depends on what time of year you are going too. We go in the spring when fish are more aggressive in my opinion. I have braid on everything without a leader of any kind. If you are going when the fishing is a little slower, less aggressive, I’d add a leader with no swivel. |
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GickFirk22 |
Let us know what you decide! |
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Zwater |
Can always catch any fish on 8lb. mono if the drag is set right. Just less sensitive to bites. |
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BWfishingfanatic12 |
buzz17: "My main rod last week had 8lb fluorocarbon for jigging. We ended up catching walleye in current, under a bobber. Fluorocarbon line sinks. It was a bit tricky using it in current under a bobber in shallow water. There is nothing wrong with mono. I find it a bit too stretchy for my liking. I either use 8lb fluoro or 6lb Yozuri hybrid line. I use braid for my large pike rod and for my casting/crankbait, fishing the creek at home in Indiana rod. I am not a Pike fisherman but that pike is maybe 10lbs at the most and that is pushing it... The conversion chart (are approximations I know) has a 20 pound pike at 42" plus. No way this fish is much over 30 inches, pictures are tough to judge off of though I suppose. Usually, not that guy but when the approximation is so far off had to say something. I guess that is the nature of being a fisherman! :) |
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tbro16 |
With braid you're always going to get a better hookset (especially with a lot of line out), more sensitivity, and a better chance at landing bigger fish with its far superior strength. Unless I'm pulling crankbaits I always use a flouro leader. Also better to use a slightly more giving rod with braid, as it allows a bit more give to help with them headshakes. If you're fishing deep water lake trout braid with a flouro leader will suit you much better, jigging or trolling. I've spent my winter in Idaho catching 18 lb steelhead on slip bobbers. 30 lb power pro and 15 lb flouro leader did the trick. |
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Basspro69 |
MtnBrowncoat: "I'm heading up to the Boundary Waters for the first time. I just got a Stradic Ci4+ and a Triumph Travel Rod as a graduation gift. What should I spool it up with? I'm planning on mostly targeting trout (lake, brook, splake etc) What type of line do you use and why? Thanks folks!"I’ve seen this question about 100 times on this board, for stream trout 4 pound Trilene xl and 8 pound Trilene xl for everything else hands down src="https://photos.bwca.com/b/BASSPRO69-100422-005923.JPG" align="left" > |
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TK77 |
I personally prefer fluorocarbon and braided lines. So you know where any bias may lie. Fluorocarbon becomes particularly useful when there is high fishing pressure, or the water has very high visibility such as a spring fed lake. On the other hand it has its flaws the biggest of which, like mono, can get some gnarly twists in the line. In my opinion.. Mono is the best value line, however will need to be replaced much more frequently than braid or fluorocarbon. For this reason, I use powerpro or daiwa j-braid on my main 3 reels including my baitcaster. The reason is because I hate taking off line and putting on new lines. The other big disadvange of mono I don't think anyone mentioned is that compared to the other types, it is not as strong for a given diameter This meaning you will get less line on a spool with mono compared to the others. I saw another use mention sensitivity of mono as a pro. This is true if you have slack line you can feel through the line. But if this is your biggest concern, I would be using fluorocarbon over mono as it is much more sensitive. Choosing line also depends on how you are fishing, and what you are fishing for. If you are bobber fishing you might get an advantage for those sneaky worm stealers like perch or walleye with mono/fluoro. However if you are using an kind of cast and retrieve bait I would 100% recommend using braided line. |
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fishEH |
MtnBrowncoat: "I'm heading up to the Boundary Waters for the first time. I just got a Stradic Ci4+ and a Triumph Travel Rod as a graduation gift. What should I spool it up with? I'm planning on mostly targeting trout (lake, brook, splake etc) What type of line do you use and why? Thanks folks!" If this is your ONLY rod/reel combo you're bringing I would go with braid, 20lb. For Pike run a titanium leader. For Walleye run a fluoro leader in 8 or 10lb off a small filler spool. If you're bringing two rods, it just comes down to personal preference. |
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NEIowapaddler |
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Sparkeh |
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MtnBrowncoat |
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lundojam |
I seem to lose a lot of fish on braid; they just come off. |
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bobbernumber3 |
lundojam: "I learned to fish on mono. For that reason, I guess, I prefer it. Jigging lakers requires a hard line, though. Is that a BW/Q Walleye in your profile picture? |
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scottiebaldwin |
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lundojam |
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mgraber |
CoachWalleye74: "Fireline is braid. Fireline is most certainly NOT regular braid, it is fused braid. Absolutely HUGE difference and really ridiculous to compare. I use both braid and Fireline for different purposes and they handle completely different. Fireline handles more like mono, braid does not. Fireline has higher Knot strength, casts further, fewer wind knots on spinning reels, etc. |
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CoachWalleye74 |
"Berkley FireLine Ultra 8 Superline is a braided line, but it's different than most." "What is fused braid? Fused braid is a braided line that has undergone a thermally fusing process, that makes it silky smooth and of a smaller diameter." Fireline performs much better than braid... Fireline is a braid... Fireline is not a REGULAR braid, it's a FUSED braid... So, Fireline is a braid. Curiously, is Suffix 832 a "braid"? There description calls it a small diameter braid with precision braiding and fibers... To each their own... |
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WesternHills |
BWfishingfanatic12: "WesternHills: "Mattbrome: "I have to agree with previous opinions for braid with a 3-5 foot (or so) fluro leader is the best all around setup. I'd also add that at your braid flouro connection tie in a small swivel Yeah I use barrel swivels myself in a few situations but not as a standard connection between braid and leader. To each to their own though. If it works, great, I just can't imagine it. I use the FG knot myself for its slender profile. |
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missmolly |
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Frankie_Paull |
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