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dentondoc
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I JUST got off the phone with my outfitter (out of Crane Lake). I asked him about the fire ban being lifted.
His response was "Highly unlikely. It's dry as a bone here!"
Like I said ... "something is amiss."
dd
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3AHoles
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This outfitter has posted it. https://www.facebook.com/TuscaroraCanoe/posts/1142144695806909
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Pinetree
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quote dentondoc: "quote tuscarorasurvivor: "quote WhiteWolf: "If the "Q" fire ban is not over by the end of the month (or buy end business day Tuesday)-- I will be mildly surprised. If it's not over a week from now-- I will be shocked. Plenty of moisture coming North."
According to the park web site http://www.ontarioparks.com/park/quetico/alerts the fire restriction will be lifted tomorrow. Good call WhiteWolf.
OK, my apologies for not being able to copy the web site as a link, but it does seem the ban is lifted tomorrow."
The fire ban post from the link above is as follows:
"Quetico Provincial Park Interior and Dawson Trail Campground is under a Restricted Fire Zone (RFZ). The Restricted Fire Zone will be lifted on Tuesday May 30. NO fires for any purpose will be permitted during the RFZ throughout Quetico's Interior and at Dawson Trail Campground."
The post seemingly contradicts itself. Furthermore, Tuesday is May 31 (not May 30).
Something is not quite right here!
dd"
No contradiction at all. The Ontario province people lifted the ban for much of Ontario in that certain zone. Within that zone is Quetico park who can decide to lift the ban or not. The park has not said yet.
They can lift it now if they want. The other ban from the Province I am sure would supercede anything.
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Wables
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:)
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tuscarorasurvivor
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quote WhiteWolf: "If the "Q" fire ban is not over by the end of the month (or buy end business day Tuesday)-- I will be mildly surprised. If it's not over a week from now-- I will be shocked. Plenty of moisture coming North."
According to the park web site http://www.ontarioparks.com/park/quetico/alerts the fire restriction will be lifted tomorrow. Good call WhiteWolf.
OK, my apologies for not being able to copy the web site as a link, but it does seem the ban is lifted tomorrow.
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Pinetree
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Hope so,will see if the park follows along.
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dentondoc
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quote tuscarorasurvivor: "quote WhiteWolf: "If the "Q" fire ban is not over by the end of the month (or buy end business day Tuesday)-- I will be mildly surprised. If it's not over a week from now-- I will be shocked. Plenty of moisture coming North."
According to the park web site http://www.ontarioparks.com/park/quetico/alerts the fire restriction will be lifted tomorrow. Good call WhiteWolf.
OK, my apologies for not being able to copy the web site as a link, but it does seem the ban is lifted tomorrow."
The fire ban post from the link above is as follows:
"Quetico Provincial Park Interior and Dawson Trail Campground is under a Restricted Fire Zone (RFZ). The Restricted Fire Zone will be lifted on Tuesday May 30. NO fires for any purpose will be permitted during the RFZ throughout Quetico's Interior and at Dawson Trail Campground."
The post seemingly contradicts itself. Furthermore, Tuesday is May 31 (not May 30).
Something is not quite right here!
dd
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neverfales
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Seems to me that final sentence is to restate the rules of the RFZ, which remain in place until RFZ is lifted on Tuesday. Tried calling Quetico office but guy there was clueless. Hope I'm right.
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Folsom
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Great news. It's me and three newbies, glad they'll get the full experience.
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joetrain
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quote dentondoc: " Color me happy (and more than a bit surprised). NO FIRE BAN!. Call me a happy camper.
dd" R
I'm with you double d.
~JOE~
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jberns
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Another happy camper here. 60+ trips & I've never had a fire ban. I'm there in a week with my son. He loves the camp fire & I love my lake trout over the fire!
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Pinetree
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Yesterday Atikoken got less than 0.1 inches so rain is not falling in many places yet.
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Pinetree
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Just got back from Quetico and the word is it is super dry up there and talking to the Ranger at Prairie Portage he does not see any change unless the whole region or all of Quetico gets any rain.
Good news mosquitoes are non existent, Black flies are moderate.
The last two days temps in Quetico have ranged from 82 degrees to almost 90 degrees for a while. Very windy today drying things out more.
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Pinetree
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O'kay update you can:Quetico site May 30
NOTICE: As of May 7th, 2016, Quetico Provincial Park Interior and Dawson Trail Campground are under a Restricted Fire Zone. No fires will be permitted for any purpose until the RFZ is lifted. The RFZ will be lifted tonight (May 30). You can't have a fire to-day but you can have one starting tomorrow May 31.
camp fire updates
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dentondoc
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Color me happy (and more than a bit surprised). NO FIRE BAN!. Call me a happy camper.
dd
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Folsom
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I hope you're right. My groud is headed in on June 4th, fingers crossed.
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mooseplums
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quote Pinetree: "Just got back from Quetico and the word is it is super dry up there and talking to the Ranger at Prairie Portage he does not see any change unless the whole region or all of Quetico gets any rain.
Good news mosquitoes are non existent, Black flies are moderate.
The last two days temps in Quetico have ranged from 82 degrees to almost 90 degrees for a while. Very windy today drying things out more."
Where was your trip to the Quetico? How many days were you out ...need details
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WhiteWolf
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If the "Q" fire ban is not over by the end of the month (or buy end business day Tuesday)-- I will be mildly surprised. If it's not over a week from now-- I will be shocked. Plenty of moisture coming North.
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Pinetree
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Total rainfall listed by Weather underground almanac for Ely the last few days is way under a 0.5 inches.
Does look like that as Whitewolf says more rain coming.
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cowdoc
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all this moisture streaming by has been a fizzle here in S. central wi. If you would have watched radar the last few days, you would have sworn we received 4 inches of rain. We barely got the sidewalk wet 3-4 times. I hope it has had more punch to it in N. Mn and the Q.....but it doesn't sound like it has.
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GraniteCliffs
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Thanks for the updated information. I am headed in on a solo at Prairie on Monday. Would like to have a fire but opted today to go with dehydrated food. Not a big deal to me.
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3AHoles
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Did they mention if all the rain lately could change things?
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Pinetree
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ban update
As I mention if the whole area gets rain,than they will lift it in time. Rain has to be widespread.
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3AHoles
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Thank-you. Not being from anywhere near the area, how would you categorize the rains from the last couple days and today?
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Pinetree
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Much of the rain is right now,maybe one of the area BWCA people can give a onsight update this weekend.
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dentondoc
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Looks like several of the reporting stations that flank Quetico (e.g., Crane Lake, Ely, Atikokan) are reporting rainfall levels generally less than .20 inches. Hopefully, the mid-week forecast will hold (.50 inches over Tuesday and Wednesday). That's probably not going to do much to create conditions which will cause the fire ban to be lifted, but at least its a step in the right direction.
dd
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joewildlife
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I got a call yesterday from the Park and was advised the ban is still on :(
No huge deal, but it might make me bring a white gas stove instead of relying on a fire and the JetBoil all week. I'm going in late next week.
Joe
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joetrain
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I got the call today. Fire ban is still on. I thought it was really great to get a call from a government agency. That would be unheard of here in Illinois.
~JOE~
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thinblueline
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Thanks buddy. It won't get any better in the next several days, so guess I'm going in Thursday with a fire ban. So much for grilled lake trout.
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thinblueline
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I don't see the fire ban still listed on the Quetico Park website anymore. Anybody else agree it appears to have been lifted?
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Pinetree
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Just received this from the park.
Thanks for your email. You can use your propane stove, or any portable gas, propane or naphtha stove anytime during the fire season, even in a Restricted Fire Zone, provided the stove is at least 1 metre from any flammable material. The stove must also be designed to use gas, propane or naphtha and you must be able to extinguish the flame by a control valve or by closing the stove.
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schweady
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quote dentondoc: "If that doesn't cover it, then you might want to read the Outdoor Fire Restrictions page from the Ontario Government web page."
Thanks for that. This type of information, or at least a direct link to it, should be made readily available on every fire restriction announcement page. There are almost too many places to look for the information, sometimes with conflicting messages.
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Pinetree
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We talk about what can be used in Quetico during fire ban such as propane stoves which were allowed in the past. But where does it say now what can be allowed? Maybe zero fires of all kind?
Why doesn't it say what is allowed? Not sure now?
Fireban Details: Quetico Provincial Park Interior and Dawson Trail Campground is under a Restricted Fire Zone (RFZ) until further notice. NO fires for any purpose will be permitted at any time during the RFZ throughout Quetico's Interior and at Dawson Trail Campground.
Boil Water Details: - No additional details at this time.
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Pinetree
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quote BearMandolin: "I just got a call from Quetico about the fire ban. My permit is for Saturday, so I imagine they're calling everyone. Just making sure that I knew that the ban is in place and probably will be through next week. Have to have a stove for cooking (well, yeah). She reinforced its for open burning and campfires, so I think candles would be okay."
Maybe that answers my above question.
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dentondoc
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quote Pinetree: "quote BearMandolin: "I just got a call from Quetico about the fire ban. My permit is for Saturday, so I imagine they're calling everyone. Just making sure that I knew that the ban is in place and probably will be through next week. Have to have a stove for cooking (well, yeah). She reinforced its for open burning and campfires, so I think candles would be okay."
Maybe that answers my above question."
If that doesn't cover it, then you might want to read the Outdoor Fire Restrictions page from the Ontario Government web page. It indicates that campstoves can (under normal restrictions) be used, but it should have a control valve for stopping the flow of fuel to the stove. It also includes other provisions, like not using a stove with 1 meter of any flammable material.
dd
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BnD
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Amarillo Jim. We're going in at Cache Bay headed down the Falls Chain. This will be a repeat of our 2013 trip.
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BearMandolin
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I just got a call from Quetico about the fire ban. My permit is for Saturday, so I imagine they're calling everyone. Just making sure that I knew that the ban is in place and probably will be through next week. Have to have a stove for cooking (well, yeah). She reinforced its for open burning and campfires, so I think candles would be okay.
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BnD
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I have to say this fire ban is really disappointing. Were going in Monday and not having a campfire really lessens camping for me. I guess I can unpack the biscuits and gravy as well. Back to pancakes.
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landoftheskytintedwater
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Ditto on the call, just got it. Gonna be pretty breezy Sunday (when I enter) on the tail end of this dry spell so I doubt it will be lifted before we enter. Gonna pack the saw/hatchet/reflector oven/baking mixes/etc in the car in the unlikely event it's lifted before we enter but not counting on it.
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Pinetree
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10 days out talking very little rain and the Alberta fire still going. I think the ban will be on for a little while. Who knows?
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AmarilloJim
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I feel your pain BnD! We r headed in on Monday also. Where are u entering? You can still do B+G just have to pan fry your biscuits.
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QueticoMike
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Try pan frying your trout in butter with some onions and sprinkle a good serving of lemon pepper on top.
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thinblueline
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quote dixiepaddler: "Just got off the phone with Canoe Canada. They said there is a meeting this coming Friday to discuss whether to lift the ban or not. Hope they do, I'm going in June 5. Really like my campfire at night, not to cook on, just to stare into. "
Figures. I'm going in a day before the meeting. The ban could be lifted and I spend my whole trip thinking there's a fire ban on. That kind of stinks.
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dixiepaddler
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One of the very few reasons I might take a sat phone: call out every evening to check.
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QueticoMike
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I just contacted Ontario tourism to verify the ban is still on and they said yes.
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thinblueline
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quote QueticoMike: "Try pan frying your trout in butter with some onions and sprinkle a good serving of lemon pepper on top. "
Sounds like a plan
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dixiepaddler
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Just got off the phone with Canoe Canada. They said there is a meeting this coming Friday to discuss whether to lift the ban or not. Hope they do, I'm going in June 5. Really like my campfire at night, not to cook on, just to stare into.
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mapsguy1955
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On the Ontario Forest Fire Info map, it shows restrictions in a VERY large area, including Quetico.
Link
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Pinetree
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I think it is still there.
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Ausable
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The fire ban is still in effect. See the official Quetico website under the Alerts tab.
Quetico Alerts
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thinblueline
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quote Ausable: "The fire ban is still in effect. See the official Quetico website under the Alerts tab.
Quetico Alerts "
Yeah I see the red fire ban icon under the alerts, but a couple days ago, there was a few lines of text to the side of it explaining the ban, but now the text is gone.
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Pinetree
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quote thinblueline: "quote QueticoMike: "Try pan frying your trout in butter with some onions and sprinkle a good serving of lemon pepper on top. "
Sounds like a plan"
Solo trips I have taken it and cut up the trout and put it in instant chicken soup. Tastes great and easy-just boil.
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Pinetree
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I see fire ban still on.
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jcavenagh
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quote Exo: "Good call on their part. Place could burn a good while with all the resources deployed in Alberta."
I concur. With the situation the way it is now, better to be a little extra cautious.
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schweady
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quote Pinetree: "See they are talking even a inch of snow by Ely next week."
Wintery mix for the Opener. Gotta love this state.
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Pinetree
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quote schweady: "This page was updated Saturday:
"NOTICE: As of May 07, 2016 and until further notice, Quetico Provincial Park Interior and Dawson Trail Campground will be under a Restricted Fire Zone (RFZ). No fires will be permitted until the RFZ is lifted.
There are no fires burning at this time."
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Sounds like a campfire ban. Like I said the firefighters are stretched thin already>
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Exo
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Good call on their part. Place could burn a good while with all the resources deployed in Alberta.
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Pinetree
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I remember some dry springs,we would gather firewood and moisture content was in the single digits. You hardly get the match close to your firewood and it would ignite and it would be a hot fire.
Like I said good call with limited fire fighting resources available.
Couple weeks and greenup,maybe fire season will be over. See they are talking even a inch of snow by Ely next week.
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schweady
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This page was updated Saturday:
"NOTICE: As of May 07, 2016 and until further notice, Quetico Provincial Park Interior and Dawson Trail Campground will be under a Restricted Fire Zone (RFZ). No fires will be permitted until the RFZ is lifted.
There are no fires burning at this time."
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schweady
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and, here is an interesting map, although it is slow to load.
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Pinetree
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condition
They are talking cooler weather and rain this week otherwise I think a camp fire ban is only days away. Rain can change that this week.
Another reason many Ontario fire fighters and resouces are heading to Alberta.
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