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08/07/2024 06:32PM |
serenityseeker: "You may find some of my comments from long ago. Many of the names you mentioned I have met and consider friends. Life changes, commitments change, abilities change.
In the last 9 years I’ve ruptured both Achilles tendons with surgical fixes, had 4 rotator cuff surgeries involving multiple tendons and a total knee replacement as my ACL had been gone for 5-10 years. I’m in my early 50’s btw. The last time I paddled I had difficulty paddling a solo across a medium size lake against a slight chop. I knew then I had no business on the water. No business risking someone else’s life because I couldn’t save my own. I haven’t returned despite the intensity of the loss."
It is good to see a post from you serenityseeker! I remember you fondly.
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08/07/2024 06:36PM |
Good to hear from so many that haven't checked in lately. We have memories of meeting up with Bruce/ArkansasMan once for breakfast and a good chat in Ely. How quickly the years pass by!
I hope more people check back in. Boppa, you out there?
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08/17/2024 03:09PM |
nctry: "wetcanoedog: " i was active years ago and went to a couple wing nights.some years ago i found canoe
tripping had become really hard at my age,i'm 78 now,and after a few short trip i called it quits.i car camp now and that works for me.with not much to add to the site i drifted off."
I always enjoyed your posts…"
Agreed. In fact, wetcanoedog, I will be copying your design of using a Swiss Canteen to make a ditch kit soon. Great idea.
I joined back in spring of 2008 when getting ready for my first canoe triping in the BWCA. Learned a lot back then, still learning, but mostly chiming in with advice when motivated.
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08/29/2024 12:33PM |
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08/20/2024 12:56PM |
buz: "Where do you see when u joined? Ha, guess what, senior guy here, can't find it, what a surprise. "
Just click on your profile. It says you joined 3-27-2006. You've been a member for 18+ years! :)
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08/20/2024 01:22PM |
Knew I probably qualify as an older member for sure, thanks.
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08/20/2024 12:42PM |
Best site for canoe trip info in general bar none. So many tips tricks and work arounds that made my trips better, that will continue I see for the next generation.
Generally in the lurker mode now, and randomly get private questions about Crooked lake info, which I am glad to share. I know a lot of fish info on that lake and always pass it on if asked.
Still trip randomly, 66 now but no plans on not going, lucky to have all my real parts in me still working as well as could be expected.
Thanks to all the people who make this site work/run, it is a treasure for those who look for this type of information.
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08/11/2024 05:27PM |
butthead: "….Now reserve any commenting to gear questions I can answer…."
And that would be, let me see, just about every damn one of them out there. And with authority.
Glad to see you here, Butthead!
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08/11/2024 11:56PM |
I haven’t been to BW in a few years, don’t have a trip planned but I’ll be back, so much fun.
Remember Tremolo, she was cool, I have four examples of her artwork on my walls. Pretty punk rock cool, glad I have them.
Over and out cheers scat
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08/09/2024 07:00PM |
Yep, I am still visiting this wonderful site but more in the role of a lurker
as I still have the canoe traveling bug and think fondly of my many years being a member.
Carbonfiber's question is one of the reasons why, as I have had the same curious question about the many posters and members that have contributed to this site but never thought of how to ask it "Where have we gone?". For myself it has been more of the different phase that I
chose to explore, thus lurking in the background, keeping in touch in an unobtrusive way has its appeal.
As the personalities change the helpful nature and questions that are answered stays the same. A lot of knowledge exist here and the willingness to share remains strong and helpful. I am grateful for that.
I was unable to get a trip to the BW or Canada this year due to upcoming surgery, was confined to the Adirondacks which is a special place for me and a lot closer of a ride. I tend to enjoy searching out good equipment that is lite weight, tough and usable. Have my Hornbeck New Tricks 14' solo down to 22lbs and tricked out in a manner I like. I am able to portage with a self made plastic custom clip so no yoke is needed. Have one of the first editions made and it has been a game changer for these aging bones. While I do solo I still prefer the company of like minded travelers to share the experience with, but they are seemingly in shorter supply each year, lol.
I keep thinking about a trip out to Canoecopia, who knows maybe this year. Doctor has said if I take my PT seriously I should be able to take a trip as of next May. I like goals.
I thank Adam and the moderators for keeping this site on a mission to help others and share when we can.
Safe travels.
Boppa
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08/10/2024 05:32AM |
Boppa: "Hi Spartan 2,
I keep thinking about a trip out to Canoecopia, who knows maybe this year. Doctor has said if I take my PT seriously I should be able to take a trip as of next May. I like goals.
I thank Adam and the moderators for keeping this site on a mission to help others and share when we can.
Safe travels.
Boppa
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Hi Boppa! So good to hear from you! I hope you do come to Canoecopia in 2025, and if you do end up making firm plans, please get in touch! We would love to go out to lunch with you again!
I'll put you on my prayer list for your health concerns. And so glad to know that you are finding ways to still get out in your beloved Adorondacks.
Spartan2
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08/04/2024 08:44PM |
In the last nine years I’ve ruptured both Achilles tendons with surgical fixes, had four rotator cuff surgeries involving multiple tendons and a total knee replacement as my ACL had been gone for 5-10 years. I’m in my early 50’s btw.
The last time I paddled, I had difficulty paddling a solo across a medium size lake against a slight chop. I knew then I had no business being on the water. No business risking someone else’s life because I couldn’t save my own. I haven’t returned despite the intensity of the loss.
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08/23/2024 01:46PM |
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08/05/2024 08:03AM |
OneMatch: "I've been here since 2010. That makes me 14 years old. "
Me too! It's kind of like the Fountain of Youth :)
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08/05/2024 05:42PM |
But I really fell in love with Wabakimi as it reminds me of how b-dub was back in the olden times when space ships used to crash land in water.
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08/05/2024 01:39PM |
tripping had become really hard at my age,i'm 78 now,and after a few short trip i called it quits.i car camp now and that works for me.with not much to add to the site i drifted off.
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08/12/2024 06:56AM |
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08/15/2024 12:51PM |
Zulu: "I always wonder what became of them and I hope they are well.
I miss missmolly."
I fished in Maine with Miss Molly last summer. Alive and well at that point
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08/12/2024 07:47AM |
This is a Tremolo - Starfall
I think it’s cool, the only real art I have in my pad.
She got asked to leave the site, huh, sounds like politics
What a drag….
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08/16/2024 09:36PM |
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08/16/2024 10:34PM |
YaMarVa: "When I first joined in 2009 I always enjoyed posts by Fishguts. No sure if he's around or posting anymore. "
Unfortunately Patty hasn’t posted in quite a while. He hasn’t responded to personal emails either. I and others miss him as well.
T
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08/29/2024 09:01AM |
Carbonfiber: "What happened to some of the more frequent older members?
When I was lurking I would see Bogwalker, Kiporby, Riverrunner and others post on a regular basis.
They seemed to have just disappeared.
Any ideas?"
I'm still around but more of the silent observer type. Post occasionally. A couple more years to retirement. I just bought a canoe so will be able to make more trips then...at least that's the plan.
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08/31/2024 09:17PM |
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08/07/2024 09:53PM |
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08/03/2024 06:45AM |
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08/03/2024 07:38PM |
Tom
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08/03/2024 06:27AM |
cowdoc: "Life is a series of phases. Some offer more time on here, others less. Bogs is alive and well. He retired and moved closer to canoe country and is busy remodeling and building new life in new place. Kip is just a busy dude. ...makes me tired just watching all he does for work, family and play. Both are alive and well and still enjoy paddling and outdoors. I've seen them both this summer. Just a little shift in phases."
I am just glad to see cowdoc is still alive and well and with us.
We're not milking cows anymore, just raising freezer beef , start to finish. currently making fence , so i can teach someone else to watch teh cows for a week or 2 so i can take off. cows are so demanding of our time. my oldest is about to apply for vet school.
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08/04/2024 11:38AM |
timatkn: "OneMatch: "I've been here since 2010. That makes me 14 years old. "
I know I probably bring this up too often but you and Howard Sprague did the most awesome trip report ever on that other website…CCBB or something like that…
You two should do a reunion episode :)
T"
I think that was in 2006. I’d be up for a redo, same EP & roughly same general route, in 2026. Maybe a few more people would join.
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08/06/2024 07:47AM |
Old Salt and Mastertangler were banned from this site several years back.
There are a lot of older members on bwca.com … and I do enjoy reading their posts. Lots of experience.
Heck, I am turning 70 in a couple of months and I guess that qualifies me as “OLD”.
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08/06/2024 08:32AM |
JimmyJustice: "I am old enough to remember when aluminum canoes weren't heavy. Does that get me into the club?"
.... and the portages were uphill in both directions, and we liked it that way!
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08/02/2024 07:18AM |
Interests change over time, how many times can you bring up the same topic or answer the same questions so some just naturally post less, some passed on, some lost interest, a few dropped out/off when COVID was in full effect—those were crazy polarizing times…probably other stuff I didn’t mention.
T
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08/02/2024 09:23AM |
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08/02/2024 10:11AM |
I miss missmolly.
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08/02/2024 05:21AM |
When I was lurking I would see Bogwalker, Kiporby, Riverrunner and others post on a regular basis.
They seemed to have just disappeared.
Any ideas?
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08/02/2024 06:42AM |
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08/02/2024 07:53AM |
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08/02/2024 08:16AM |
I talked with Bushpilot, a moderator ruffled his flight feathers and he has chosen not to participate any longer.
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08/02/2024 03:48PM |
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08/02/2024 10:14AM |
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08/02/2024 10:40AM |
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08/02/2024 02:34PM |
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08/02/2024 04:13PM |
What I miss most is some of the locals and very long-time canoe people. They have so much tradition and Savy how BWCA was and have changed with gear and expected experience. From the old wooden canoe to Kevlar. No model T trips and flat tires on the trip north now. Like History, hope it is written down to be able to pass it on.
I am sure some young whipper snapper will fill the gap like so many vacuums are always filled.
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08/02/2024 11:05AM |
scottiebaldwin: "That would be really interesting to me to follow an “Old Farts Forum.” Have all those members come back and get in on some discussion threads. I bet they have tons of great advice to offer those of us still going in. Anyone up for starting the forum? I had bad luck starting my “Cooke Custom Sewing” forum. It’s been pretty lonely in there. "
Its hard to stay active in them over time. My music one... likely not great lol.
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08/02/2024 03:05PM |
If you want the older members of the board to reengage, I would suggest starting a thread right here in the Listening Point - General Discussion forum. More folks - young AND old - will see it and the conversation will flow. Making a private forum makes it more hidden and far less likely to encourage engagement.
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08/02/2024 04:52PM |
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08/02/2024 05:55PM |
scat: "Yeah I was thinking missmolly disappeared, she was my fav poster. Hope she comes back into the fold. Where are you missmolly... we miss you."
Sounds like she is going to now concentrate her trips around Maine and other states in the area.
Yes she is a Hall of Famer_ First ballot round.
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08/02/2024 10:43PM |
Their longtime friends are gone so you lose interesting in this forum. I myself miss many of the old timers and it gets harder to post and follow.
Also been there done that, so maybe nothing new happening. Just moving on to different pastures.
I think many still lurking on the sideline.
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08/03/2024 07:55AM |
OneMatch: "I've been here since 2010. That makes me 14 years old. "
I "found" bwca.com in 2010 as well!
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08/02/2024 07:26PM |
Jackfish: "This is not a directive. I'm speaking as a member of this board, not as a moderator. It's only a suggestion regarding starting an "Old Farts" private forum... you can do as you wish.
If you want the older members of the board to reengage, I would suggest starting a thread right here in the Listening Point - General Discussion forum. More folks - young AND old - will see it and the conversation will flow. Making a private forum makes it more hidden and far less likely to encourage engagement. "
These are wise words. I guess it comes down to this; any time I come across one, I ask seasoned veterans of the BWCA what the single most important piece of advice they can offer to a less experienced generation of park goers? Did they have an “ah ha!” moment during a particular trip which made a long term difference to them? Would they offer philosophical advice or more practical guidance? Was there a particular piece of gear they found over the years that they just couldn’t live with or couldn’t live without?
I am truly curious as to people’s answers on these types of questions. Any answers are appreciated, especially if you’re an old fart.
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08/03/2024 07:50PM |
Pinetree: "scat: "Yeah I was thinking missmolly disappeared, she was my fav poster. Hope she comes back into the fold. Where are you missmolly... we miss you."
Sounds like she is going to now concentrate her trips around Maine and other states in the area.
Yes she is a Hall of Famer_ First ballot round."
missmolly was/is the goat of bwca.com. But there are some other gems, too.
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08/03/2024 07:58PM |
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08/03/2024 10:07PM |
quark2222: "I miss Corndog.
Tom"
Wingnight re-enactment of Corndog's famous journey should be mandatory.
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08/03/2024 05:41PM |
OneMatch: "I've been here since 2010. That makes me 14 years old. "
I know I probably bring this up too often but you and Howard Sprague did the most awesome trip report ever on that other website…CCBB or something like that…
You two should do a reunion episode :)
T
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08/05/2024 09:35PM |
wetcanoedog: " i was active years ago and went to a couple wing nights.some years ago i found canoe
tripping had become really hard at my age,i'm 78 now,and after a few short trip i called it quits.i car camp now and that works for me.with not much to add to the site i drifted off."
I always enjoyed your posts…
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08/05/2024 09:48PM |
serenityseeker: "You may find some of my comments from long ago. Many of the names you mentioned I have met and consider friends. Life changes, commitments change, abilities change.
In the last 9 years I’ve ruptured both Achilles tendons with surgical fixes, had 4 rotator cuff surgeries involving multiple tendons and a total knee replacement as my ACL had been gone for 5-10 years. I’m in my early 50’s btw. The last time I paddled I had difficulty paddling a solo across a medium size lake against a slight chop. I knew then I had no business on the water. No business risking someone else’s life because I couldn’t save my own. I haven’t returned despite the intensity of the loss.
Thank you for checking in. I remember (and enjoyed) meeting you years ago at a wingnite. Sorry to hear of your struggles. Hope you are able to find some fulfillment in other less physically demanding endeavors. Know of my prayers.
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08/08/2024 07:45PM |
bwcadan: "I post less than I used to. With over 10 years here and over 77 in real life, I think I qualify as an Older Member. My tripping stopped 2 years ago which was with my oldest son and 3 grand kids. I will only resume when I can go/take some one to be my sherpa and medical advisor."
Gotta be a typo… I wouldn’t even see you as 67…
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08/08/2024 07:59PM |
First trip 2002, 2nd 2006, and once every year since then.
Scottie, if you want to ask questions, go ahead. There's more than one most important pieces of advice, sometimes "ah ha!" moments are a process, there's both practical and philosophical advice, I've left more gear behind as I've gone along than I've added, made some basic changes, but there's a lot of good gear out there and new stuff all the time.
You'll find that not everyone's advice is good for you and your advice is not good for everyone.
So ask if you want more detail . . .
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08/08/2024 09:10PM |
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08/09/2024 05:57PM |
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08/09/2024 07:13PM |
Always check chat, not much activity there any more..sigh
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08/11/2024 12:49PM |
Carbonfiber: "What happened to some of the more frequent older members?
When I was lurking I would see Bogwalker, Kiporby, Riverrunner and others post on a regular basis.
They seemed to have just disappeared.
Any ideas?"
Age, changing interests, repetition and hashing over the same thing. Things that are hard for any forum to adjust to.
My own interest have changed along with the arthritis in my knees. More time with the grand-kids, family, long road trips with my wife out west. I've sold off most of my canoe oriented gear. Now reserve any commenting to gear questions I can answer and slowing in that part due to the repetition of questions.
Simply becoming the old anti social coot that always been in me!
To all my old chums, hello!
butthead
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08/14/2024 09:01PM |
August 2024 - Lake Three - Campsite #14.
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08/15/2024 01:16PM |
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08/16/2024 03:44PM |
The forum has changed in that most of the "characters" no longer post. Much easier on the moderators though. :-)
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08/16/2024 04:02PM |
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08/29/2024 11:37AM |
It is great to still see some familiar names out there. Miss many of the people who have passed on or no longer post.
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08/29/2024 12:19PM |
I am now 78.
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08/31/2024 09:54PM |
I know I am in the old geezer bracket now.
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08/31/2024 11:57PM |
scat: "
This is a Tremolo - Starfall
I think it’s cool, the only real art I have in my pad.
She got asked to leave the site, huh, sounds like politics
What a drag…."
I have a book with that art on the cover. "The Boy Who Slept Under the Stars."
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09/01/2024 11:52AM |
Pinetree: "when was this board created?"
I want to say 2003ish??? But, don't take that to the bank.
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09/01/2024 06:57PM |
Here is a couple more Tremolo art pieces taken from a calendar she made. I think it’s cool.
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09/02/2024 08:10AM |
Jeriatric: "Is Basspro69 still around?"
Like a lot of previous posters less frequently more sporadically. I hope it’s because he is too busy fishing.
T
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09/02/2024 02:17PM |
Jeriatric: "Is Basspro69 still around?"I think he’s still processing The Minnesota Vikings losses last season and The Green Bay Packers advancing in the Playoffs.
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09/02/2024 08:40PM |
Zulu: "Jeriatric: "Is Basspro69 still around?"I think he’s still processing The Minnesota Vikings losses last season and The Green Bay Packers advancing in the Playoffs.
"
If that post doesn’t get him to respond in a witty way…he isn’t monitoring this site anymore for sure LOL
T
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08/06/2024 08:17AM |
Again great to see some names I have not seen in a while!
Bruce
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08/06/2024 05:45PM |
Tom
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08/06/2024 02:00PM |
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08/06/2024 10:31AM |
Kids grew up and got minds of their own, not as willing to be dragged into the wilderness unless I can corral their +1s into it also. This has caused me to actually plan and execute some "glamping" trips instead and switch to more solo trips for wilderness paddling.
My knees hate me these days and surgery is ahead no doubt, but I've managed to get my kids camping in Michigan or MN state parks, either on the water or paddle-in. Also went to Voyageur's national park a couple years back and hope to do more of that. I like the BWCA-adjacent national forest paddling as well - where I don't need to sweat a permit, but can just paddle in last minute.
I am embarrassed to admit that last year (with my eldest, her childhood friend, and the friend's 4yo) we paddled an 8-person tent into a state park campsite and found a way to set it up just barely fitting between trees. We had air mattresses (this has to be a sin) and battery operated pumps. The young adults brought a REAL cooler, dry ice, smoked salmon, and huge bottles of apple juice (that I would have paid $100 for by the last day). The "kids" even paddled to the park campground and took showers. It was not my idea of a wilderness paddle, but I was indeed pretty comfortable and well-fed. If that's how I now share the woods with my young adult children, I guess I can tolerate it.
Anyway, I love this site and still enjoy lurking, but (as today) I'm trying to earn a buck as a self-employed editor, so dare not spend as much time in fun places like this or other things get delayed.
GLAD FOR ALL OF YOU THAT ARE STILL HERE. Thanks for the updates on others.
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08/06/2024 02:52PM |
Arkansas Man: "Great to see some of the older posters reply! As Pete (Jackfish) said, life changes occur, and priorities become rearranged. I started back in 03, and the BWCA was my get away each year after working in Education all year. However, Now that I'm retired, have 6 grandkids, and we have changed our camping methods (RV) I don't trip as much as I used to. Still have all the equipment though. Some medical issues have caused some modifications as well. I need to bring my 11-year-old grandson up and do a trip.
Again great to see some names I have not seen in a while!
Bruce"
Nothing like tripping with the grandkids. It's the best! My five grandsons always tell their friends that it's the best part of their summer! You can't make any better memories than time in God's creation with your favorite people.
And they're starting to do a lot more of the work as they're getting older and stronger and I keep heading further into the "old fart" category!
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08/06/2024 04:35PM |
This will be my last year doing that on a regular basis. I may volunteer a little in the next couple years but at 61 it is getting a little hard on my body.
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08/06/2024 05:57PM |
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08/11/2024 05:43PM |
nctry: "bwcadan: "I post less than I used to. With over 10 years here and over 77 in real life, I think I qualify as an Older Member. My tripping stopped 2 years ago which was with my oldest son and 3 grand kids. I will only resume when I can go/take some one to be my sherpa and medical advisor."
Gotta be a typo… I wouldn’t even see you as 67… "
Thanks: your script may need checking for your glasses.
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08/11/2024 07:16PM |
I am hopefully not done tripping in the BWCA but my trips will be different due to health constraints. But that's ok, some day I won't be able to go at all and I dread that day. More easy first day in with minimal portaging, basecamp and daytrips. That's about all I got left in me but can still be an amazing experience.
I've been around long enough to remember many of the "old timers" that are no longer with us, and some that are still around but just not present much. I appreciate them but also appreciate all of those that are with us and of course the moderators(and Adam)that have done an incredible job keeping this going and on track.
Funny to think that a website could be such a big part of my life but then I realize, it's not the website, it's the community. Thanks.
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08/12/2024 08:03AM |
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08/26/2024 10:52PM |
Life caught up with me! I was very active prior to my daughter being born… she’s 10 now! I also went back to school and got my NP. I still go north every year at least once, but my “social media time” has greatly dwindled :)