Boundary Waters Quetico Forum :: Fishing Forum :: Favorite Hard Baits for Summer
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crutch5 |
2. white chatter bait 3. blue and silver rattle trap 4. mepps #3 5. floating raps 6. purple tail dancer 7. standard black and bronze raps |
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beachcamper |
Now, use braid on plug rod and I crimp the barb on all lures including jigs when on wilderness trips. Very few if any fish are lost even when trolling. Easy to remove hook from fish and less damage to them and me. Just practice a bit before your trip. |
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QueticoMike |
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flyrodman |
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joetrain |
Zaraspook Rapala tail dancer 1oz. Red eye ~JOE~ |
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Moonman |
Black Jiterbug Perch or natural #11 rapala (original) Black bucktail jig (usually tipped with piece of worm) Perch Shad rap Moonman. |
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flyrodman |
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georgelesley |
quote flyrodman: "Thanks for the suggestions, Now I have another question. I am not a big Rapala guy, mainly because of price. Although I think I may spend some more money for a once in a lifetime trip. For deep diving husky jerks/crankbaits in general, How do you retrieve them if they get hung up? I would hate to lose the ONE fish catching lure of the trip to a stump. Also, are there any cheaper alternatives to some of the Rapala lures?" Deep diving lures generally don't get hung up all that bad. If they do it is usually a rock. just back up, maybe circle a bit and it will usually come off. Not that many logs deep for it to get hung up on. A couple of other tricks that sometimes work is to get right over the lure and stick the rod straight down towards the lure and move the rod in a circle with tight line. Sometimes also you can have a tight line, rod about 45 deg angle, and while the line is tight, grab the line with one finger half way between the rod and first rod eye, let go and keep the line tight. I use Rapalas and diving wally divers 2-3 days every week all summer and lose maybe one lure a year, that often to a pike since I don't use leaders. |
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Frenchy19 |
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Arlo Pankook |
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flyrodman |
1. Dardevle Spoons 2. Bomber Model A 3. Storm Thunderstick 4. Rattletraps 5. War Eagle Nighttime Spinnerbait 6. Zara Spook What else do you think I will need? What are some of your favorites? |
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PineKnot |
Deep Husky Jerks, 19' depth, glass perch and blue/silver 1/4 and 3/8 oz chartruese spinnerbaits Any Rapala type lure that swims 4-8 feet, bass and glass perch pattern quote jeroldharter: "I am down on treble hooks. Seems like a lot of damage done to the fish. Given the conservation aspect of fishing in BWCA and Quetico I would not use them. Also, a fair number of fish caught on treble hooks aren't even hooked in the lip - more like flossing than fishing. For several years now, I've gone barbless. Works just as well, it's simple to remove trebles from fish, and I don't worry about snagging the net or burying the trebles in myself or paddling partners... |
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Arlo Pankook |
quote flyrodman: "Arlo, are both of the purple and white colored ones Deep Tail Dancers? " The purple one on the left is a minnow rap. |
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RoundRiver |
quote Basspro69: "quote Moonman: "quote flyrodman: "quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics. +2 Got to remember that simple and less is almost always better for everything in life! |
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QueticoMike |
- J9 3 1/2 inch gold jointed Rapala - 4 3/4 inch gold husky jerk - Berkley or Gulp leeches ( if in Quetico, if not get real thing ) Pike - Bullfrog or leopard frog colored Lucky 13 - Pop-R - Dardevle spoon 3 1/2 and 4 1/2 inch red and white - Mepps size 5 blade with bucktail Trout - 3 1/4 inch hammered silver Dr. Spoon - 4 1/2 inch nickel plated daredevle spoon - One ounce white hair or plastic jig Smallmouth - Zulu soft plastic jerk bait ( any plain or combo of pearl color ) - Pop-R - shad colored - Double willow blade chartreuse spinner bait - Pumpkin green tubes |
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sinking3 |
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QueticoMike |
quote sinking3: "Can i ask, where do you find the dr spoons in hammered silver?" Here is a link.......... Dr. Spoon |
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lundojam |
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Basspro69 |
quote Moonman: "quote flyrodman: "quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics. +1 |
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fishnnut |
Shad Raps work well. Daredevils. Seems like the black and white worked the best. Buzzard which is the noisy top water spinner makes quite a racket and pike attack it. Large inline spinner baits work well for large pick also. Large Suick. While this thing takes up a lot of room in your tackle box, I have the large one that is 9 or 10 inches. Cast it, jerk, pause, jerk, pause and the pike destroyed it. |
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jeroldharter |
Seems like a pain to replace the hooks though. I would just not take any. Nothing like a treble hook to get buried in the skin and maybe ruin a trip too. |
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dhuff2483 |
Most important HAVE FUN! That is what it is all about. On any cast you can catch the fish of a lifetime up there, that thought almost makes me shake each time I go there. Good times! |
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JackpineJim |
quote Arlo Pankook: " " Why stop with only three treble hooks - go all in with flatfish with spreader bar. Keep the safety glasses handy. more hooks than you can count on both hands |
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Gravy33 |
Tail Dancer Little Cleo Mann's baby one crank bait I've only been to the BWCA the last three years and these are the only hard baits I have caught fish on so far. |
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schweady |
Rapala Minnow Rap Deep Runner Silver size 9 I'm considering eliminating every other bait on a future trip and cutting my tackle box weight by 90%... |
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joefbtg28 |
Heddon Tiny Torpedo (silver or frog) Hula Popper Rapala Original Floater (silver or gold) Bomber Square Bill (small in craw color) Rapala Husky Jerk Firetiger Spoon That sounds nice, I'll have that. |
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joefbtg28 |
quote flyrodman: "Beachcamper, have you lost any fish do to debarbing hooks? I am unsure whether to do it or not." Flyrodman, Debarb some of your hooks. Fish. If you are losing fish this means you are not using line tension and rod flex appropriately. There should only be a negligible difference in hook holding from barbed to barbless if done right. Your rod bend and reading the fish is far more important for retention. Sure helps to have barbless if you ever stick yourself too! Hope this helps. |
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toddhunter |
Topwaters (Spook, chug bug, pop r, torpedo, Sammie (banana shape), buzzbait) Jigs/twist tails/tubes Soft stick worms (zero, senkos, dingers), finesse worms, zulu Jerkbaits (rapala, bomber, pointer) Spinnerbaits (white, chartreuse, black, pumpkin), chatterbait Diving crankbaits (Rebel craws and whatever looks good) Lipless crankbaits (rattle trap, rattlin rap, clackin rap, etc) Spoons Bring more or less, as suits you. Popular colors, sizes. Fish a lot. Report on your success. Have fun! |
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WilyMinnow |
For versitility you can't go wrong. You can twitch and pause it erratically, crank it slow near the surface, or troll it. Plus it suspends which can trigger less aggresive fish when you pause it for several seconds righ in their strike zone. |
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flyrodman |
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Jeriatric |
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flyrodman |
Rapala Shad Rap x2 Rapala DT 16 Rapala DT 14 Rapala Husky Jerk x2 Smithwick Suspending Super Rogue Reef Runner Bomber Long A Mag Wart Wiggle Wart x2 Mepps Aglia #5 BPS Tourney Series Micro Spin x2 Bomber Slab Spoon x2 Dardevle Spoon Blue/Chrome Blue Fox Strobe Spoon The Rapala DT's and Shad Raps were on sale for $5 bucks, who could refuse that offer? Still havent gotten everything I want though. I am going to go back to get Super Spots, Zara Spooks, Poppers, and Spinnerbaits. |
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Moonman |
quote flyrodman: "quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics. That is the question for the ages. A good jig fisherman could outfish an average fisherman 10-1. Seriously. Basically, first step is to adapt your jigging presentation to the fish mood - you can start with aggressive hops along bottom. They will hit it as the jig is falling after the hop and you will feel the fish the next time you hop or jig the lure. Most times they are not super aggressive and this is where experience comes in. I like gentle hops most of the time, with definite pauses between jigging motions 3-5 slow seconds. Maintain a tight line always. If you have a good, fast action, sensitive jigging rod, especially with a small diameter braid (say PowerPro 8 or 10lb with a 3 foot flourocarbon leader), you will easily feel the lite tap tap of a hit. I usually set the hook right away. Sometimes they are biting very lightly and it pays to let them chew on it for a second or so before setting the hook. Some guys keep the bail open, just holding the line with a finger and will give a bit of line before setting the hook (I seldom do this though). A stinger hook can help in this situation as well. If you are tipping your jig with half a worm or leech, you will really up your catch rate if the fish are not overly aggressive. Concentrate on the pause. They will follow the jig and tip down and inhale your bait/jig when it is sitting still on the bottom. Keep a tight line and be ready for that tap tap. Sometimes a real deadly technique is to slowly drag your jig on bottom with no hops at all. Also a lot of times (when the fish are fairly aggressive), a fish will hit your jig as it is falling to the bottom on the initial cast. Be ready for that. A lot of guys miss those hits because they are thinking about their retrieve, or looking at their finder etc etc. Honestly a jig is like an information gathering tool. Besides live bait (hook and split shot) a jig probably outfishes all other baits combined. Hope this helps. Moonman |
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beachcamper |
quote PineKnot: "I do not canoe in Quetico without the following: +1 all my plugs have crimped barbs and plugs with 3 hooks end up with 2. Rattle traps only one in back. What I also tried a couple of years ago is going with a wide gap circle hook to replace the trebles. Works great! http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/snook_/Fishing%20Pictures/P1010280.jpg Not familiar with how freshwater fish attack plugs but snook usually go for head first attack, notice circle hook perfect hook set. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/snook_/Fishing%20Pictures/Second2.jpg BTW, thanks for posting pics of your fav lures, I am taking notes :-) |
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flyrodman |
quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics. Thanks for reminding me. How does one fish jigs? Do you just cast and retrieve? |
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flyrodman |
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georgelesley |
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Rich11 |
Shad raps Thunder sticks Those are all the originals but one of my new favorites are the scum frogs. Love seeing bass nail them on top of lilly pads. Makes me really hate ice! |
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Arlo Pankook |
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flyrodman |
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Moonman |
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MeatGun |
Rapala original floating Shad Rap Shallow shad rap If you are thinking of Pike Mepps #4 and 5 Preparing for the trip is so fun! Enjoy |
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JackpineJim |
That said, I like Daredevils and Silver Minnows tipped with a tail or cut bait in the shallows, and Little Cleos or jigs with twister tails when fishing deeper. Small and simple tackle box and ALWAYS catch plenty of fish. |
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bassnut |
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Bdubguy |
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overthehill |
Origional Rapala Jitterbugs, ChugBugs Mepps Deep Rebel Craw |
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Arlo Pankook |
quote flyrodman: "Thanks for the suggestions, Now I have another question. I am not a big Rapala guy, mainly because of price. Although I think I may spend some more money for a once in a lifetime trip. For deep diving crankbaits/crankbaits in general, How do you retrieve them if they get hung up? I would hate to lose the ONE fish catching lure of the trip to a stump." First, stand up in your canoe and waive your rod back and forth like an orchestra conductor. Then bend the rod like in a "C" shape and strum the line like a harp. Sorry, I couldn't resist. In all seriousness, try to pull from different angles and bring backup lures. Some people swear by those lure retrievers but I have never tried one. |
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RoundRiver |
Rapala shad rap #5 in goldfish While not technically a hard bait - 1/16 or 1/8 oz jig with white 2" or 3" twister tail. Those will do the trick. If all else fails try an all orange plain #4 Mepps. That will get you a northern (and even a walleye once). |
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Moonman |
quote flyrodman: "Thanks for the suggestions, Now I have another question. I am not a big Rapala guy, mainly because of price. Although I think I may spend some more money for a once in a lifetime trip. For deep diving husky jerks/crankbaits in general, How do you retrieve them if they get hung up? I would hate to lose the ONE fish catching lure of the trip to a stump. Also, are there any cheaper alternatives to some of the Rapala lures?" Another trick I use on snags, besides paddling around and trying to pull from the opposite direction, is to pull tight to create a bend in the rod (gauged according to line strength of course), and then release the pressure suddenly. I use this tactic as a last resort but sometimes this acts like a spring and the lure may come loose at least enough to then paddle around and try pulling from opposite direction again. Unfortunately, over many years of trying many different lures, I have found that not many minnow bait type lures are superior to Rapalas. Saying that however does not mean you can't catch fish with other lures though. Pick up one or two raps and maybe some cheaper lures as well. Sometimes (a lot of times) presentation is more important than exact lure - although we like to think the best presentation, combined with the best lure will work better :) I'm sure you'll catch fish and have a good time no matter what. Moonman |
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crutch5 |
2. Mepps #2,#3,and #4. 3. Rattle trap silver/blue 4. rooster tails black/purple and chartruese 5. Chatterbaits 1/2 and 3/4 oz white and chartruese 6. worms-n-harness purple-brown 7. purple taildancer 8. assorted jigs 1/4 oz 9. rapala crank baits. Daredevils for Pike, Mepps for Pike,largemouth, and smallmouth Rattletraps for largemouth and smallies rooster tail for largemouth, smallies, and perch Chatterbaits for all of the above and Lakers (They work great). Worms for bass and Walleyes. Purple taildancer for Pike, bass, and walleyes. Jigs for walleyes, perch and whitefish Crankbaits for Bass |
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Solobob1 |
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toddhunter |
quote flyrodman: "quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics. try cast and retrieve first. you'll be surprised how many you get, and still keep snags to a minimum. |
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bfurlow |
Everyone else on here covered anything else I would've suggested. Good time of year to be up there, enjoy the trip!! |