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01/13/2013 12:13AM
I'm compiling a list of lures for my fist trip in early July. Right now I have:
1. Dardevle Spoons
2. Bomber Model A
3. Storm Thunderstick
4. Rattletraps
5. War Eagle Nighttime Spinnerbait
6. Zara Spook
What else do you think I will need? What are some of your favorites?
1. Dardevle Spoons
2. Bomber Model A
3. Storm Thunderstick
4. Rattletraps
5. War Eagle Nighttime Spinnerbait
6. Zara Spook
What else do you think I will need? What are some of your favorites?
01/13/2013 08:26AM
Over the years I've simplified the tackle I bring with me to spoons and jigs. I don't use a net and lip the bass or gill the bigger pike and lakers and don't want to hook myself trying to land a fish. I know the Rapalas are great fish catchers but I leave them all home - there are just too damn many hooks and don't want to get my fingers close to them.
That said, I like Daredevils and Silver Minnows tipped with a tail or cut bait in the shallows, and Little Cleos or jigs with twister tails when fishing deeper.
Small and simple tackle box and ALWAYS catch plenty of fish.
That said, I like Daredevils and Silver Minnows tipped with a tail or cut bait in the shallows, and Little Cleos or jigs with twister tails when fishing deeper.
Small and simple tackle box and ALWAYS catch plenty of fish.
Wilderness both captivates your soul and sets it free :)
01/13/2013 07:04PM
quote Arlo Pankook: " "
Why stop with only three treble hooks - go all in with flatfish with spreader bar. Keep the safety glasses handy.
more hooks than you can count on both hands
Wilderness both captivates your soul and sets it free :)
01/14/2013 08:36AM
Jitterbug
Tail Dancer
Little Cleo
Mann's baby one crank bait
I've only been to the BWCA the last three years and these are the only hard baits I have caught fish on so far.
Tail Dancer
Little Cleo
Mann's baby one crank bait
I've only been to the BWCA the last three years and these are the only hard baits I have caught fish on so far.
"My greatest fear is that when technology surpasses human interaction we have raised a generation of idiots" Albert Einstein
01/14/2013 09:25AM
Rapala Deep Tail Dancer Clown Flash size 7
Rapala Minnow Rap Deep Runner Silver size 9
I'm considering eliminating every other bait on a future trip and cutting my tackle box weight by 90%...
Rapala Minnow Rap Deep Runner Silver size 9
I'm considering eliminating every other bait on a future trip and cutting my tackle box weight by 90%...
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Yogi Berra
01/14/2013 10:13AM
I am down on treble hooks. Seems like a lot of damage done to the fish. Given the conservation aspect of fishing in BWCA and Quetico I would not use them. Also, a fair number of fish caught on treble hooks aren't even hooked in the lip - more like flossing than fishing.
Seems like a pain to replace the hooks though. I would just not take any. Nothing like a treble hook to get buried in the skin and maybe ruin a trip too.
Seems like a pain to replace the hooks though. I would just not take any. Nothing like a treble hook to get buried in the skin and maybe ruin a trip too.
01/14/2013 11:45AM
Definatly, take some Storm HOT-N-TOT's. I take several of these. I catch lakers and big pike on these in the summer time trolling in deep water. This lure just works and works well in Quetico. For novice fisherman you can not beat a few Rat-L-Traps. Throw them and wind them back in. You will catch everything on them and you can chunk them a mile in the wind and cover some water.
Most important HAVE FUN! That is what it is all about. On any cast you can catch the fish of a lifetime up there, that thought almost makes me shake each time I go there. Good times!
Most important HAVE FUN! That is what it is all about. On any cast you can catch the fish of a lifetime up there, that thought almost makes me shake each time I go there. Good times!
01/14/2013 06:25PM
I do not canoe in Quetico without the following:
Deep Husky Jerks, 19' depth, glass perch and blue/silver
1/4 and 3/8 oz chartruese spinnerbaits
Any Rapala type lure that swims 4-8 feet, bass and glass perch pattern
For several years now, I've gone barbless. Works just as well, it's simple to remove trebles from fish, and I don't worry about snagging the net or burying the trebles in myself or paddling partners...
Deep Husky Jerks, 19' depth, glass perch and blue/silver
1/4 and 3/8 oz chartruese spinnerbaits
Any Rapala type lure that swims 4-8 feet, bass and glass perch pattern
quote jeroldharter: "I am down on treble hooks. Seems like a lot of damage done to the fish. Given the conservation aspect of fishing in BWCA and Quetico I would not use them. Also, a fair number of fish caught on treble hooks aren't even hooked in the lip - more like flossing than fishing.
Seems like a pain to replace the hooks though. I would just not take any. Nothing like a treble hook to get buried in the skin and maybe ruin a trip too."
For several years now, I've gone barbless. Works just as well, it's simple to remove trebles from fish, and I don't worry about snagging the net or burying the trebles in myself or paddling partners...
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are -- Teddy Roosevelt
01/14/2013 09:02PM
Thanks for the suggestions, Now I have another question. I am not a big Rapala guy, mainly because of price. Although I think I may spend some more money for a once in a lifetime trip. For deep diving husky jerks/crankbaits in general, How do you retrieve them if they get hung up? I would hate to lose the ONE fish catching lure of the trip to a stump. Also, are there any cheaper alternatives to some of the Rapala lures?
01/14/2013 09:20PM
quote flyrodman: "Thanks for the suggestions, Now I have another question. I am not a big Rapala guy, mainly because of price. Although I think I may spend some more money for a once in a lifetime trip. For deep diving crankbaits/crankbaits in general, How do you retrieve them if they get hung up? I would hate to lose the ONE fish catching lure of the trip to a stump."
First, stand up in your canoe and waive your rod back and forth like an orchestra conductor. Then bend the rod like in a "C" shape and strum the line like a harp.
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
In all seriousness, try to pull from different angles and bring backup lures. Some people swear by those lure retrievers but I have never tried one.
All Rapalas that wander are not lost.
01/14/2013 11:05PM
Rapala original minnow #9 or 11 in silver, gold, perch
Rapala shad rap #5 in goldfish
While not technically a hard bait - 1/16 or 1/8 oz jig with white 2" or 3" twister tail.
Those will do the trick. If all else fails try an all orange plain #4 Mepps. That will get you a northern (and even a walleye once).
Rapala shad rap #5 in goldfish
While not technically a hard bait - 1/16 or 1/8 oz jig with white 2" or 3" twister tail.
Those will do the trick. If all else fails try an all orange plain #4 Mepps. That will get you a northern (and even a walleye once).
Find a Listening Point and visit often. Develop a Land Ethic and strive to live it.
01/15/2013 10:56AM
quote flyrodman: "Thanks for the suggestions, Now I have another question. I am not a big Rapala guy, mainly because of price. Although I think I may spend some more money for a once in a lifetime trip. For deep diving husky jerks/crankbaits in general, How do you retrieve them if they get hung up? I would hate to lose the ONE fish catching lure of the trip to a stump. Also, are there any cheaper alternatives to some of the Rapala lures?"
Deep diving lures generally don't get hung up all that bad. If they do it is usually a rock. just back up, maybe circle a bit and it will usually come off. Not that many logs deep for it to get hung up on.
A couple of other tricks that sometimes work is to get right over the lure and stick the rod straight down towards the lure and move the rod in a circle with tight line. Sometimes also you can have a tight line, rod about 45 deg angle, and while the line is tight, grab the line with one finger half way between the rod and first rod eye, let go and keep the line tight.
I use Rapalas and diving wally divers 2-3 days every week all summer and lose maybe one lure a year, that often to a pike since I don't use leaders.
We always have time and money for what's important to us
01/15/2013 01:05PM
quote flyrodman: "Thanks for the suggestions, Now I have another question. I am not a big Rapala guy, mainly because of price. Although I think I may spend some more money for a once in a lifetime trip. For deep diving husky jerks/crankbaits in general, How do you retrieve them if they get hung up? I would hate to lose the ONE fish catching lure of the trip to a stump. Also, are there any cheaper alternatives to some of the Rapala lures?"
Another trick I use on snags, besides paddling around and trying to pull from the opposite direction, is to pull tight to create a bend in the rod (gauged according to line strength of course), and then release the pressure suddenly. I use this tactic as a last resort but sometimes this acts like a spring and the lure may come loose at least enough to then paddle around and try pulling from opposite direction again.
Unfortunately, over many years of trying many different lures, I have found that not many minnow bait type lures are superior to Rapalas. Saying that however does not mean you can't catch fish with other lures though. Pick up one or two raps and maybe some cheaper lures as well. Sometimes (a lot of times) presentation is more important than exact lure - although we like to think the best presentation, combined with the best lure will work better :)
I'm sure you'll catch fish and have a good time no matter what.
Moonman
02/11/2013 10:45AM
Add a couple of different sizes of topwaters, including poppers. Nice when they'll take a large one, but sometimes only the tiniest will do it. Chug Bug, PopRs etc. Swim a jig n grub for most everything. Keep in mind the pike will chew up the best of the lures.
02/11/2013 11:19AM
1. Daredevils/five of diamonds
2. Mepps #2,#3,and #4.
3. Rattle trap silver/blue
4. rooster tails black/purple and chartruese
5. Chatterbaits 1/2 and 3/4 oz white and chartruese
6. worms-n-harness purple-brown
7. purple taildancer
8. assorted jigs 1/4 oz
9. rapala crank baits.
Daredevils for Pike,
Mepps for Pike,largemouth, and smallmouth
Rattletraps for largemouth and smallies
rooster tail for largemouth, smallies, and perch
Chatterbaits for all of the above and Lakers (They work great).
Worms for bass and Walleyes.
Purple taildancer for Pike, bass, and walleyes.
Jigs for walleyes, perch and whitefish
Crankbaits for Bass
2. Mepps #2,#3,and #4.
3. Rattle trap silver/blue
4. rooster tails black/purple and chartruese
5. Chatterbaits 1/2 and 3/4 oz white and chartruese
6. worms-n-harness purple-brown
7. purple taildancer
8. assorted jigs 1/4 oz
9. rapala crank baits.
Daredevils for Pike,
Mepps for Pike,largemouth, and smallmouth
Rattletraps for largemouth and smallies
rooster tail for largemouth, smallies, and perch
Chatterbaits for all of the above and Lakers (They work great).
Worms for bass and Walleyes.
Purple taildancer for Pike, bass, and walleyes.
Jigs for walleyes, perch and whitefish
Crankbaits for Bass
CRUTCH 5
02/23/2013 04:56PM
I bought most of the stuff for my trip today during the sales going on at bass pro. This is what I have ended up with so far:
Rapala Shad Rap x2
Rapala DT 16
Rapala DT 14
Rapala Husky Jerk x2
Smithwick Suspending Super Rogue
Reef Runner
Bomber Long A
Mag Wart
Wiggle Wart x2
Mepps Aglia #5
BPS Tourney Series Micro Spin x2
Bomber Slab Spoon x2
Dardevle Spoon Blue/Chrome
Blue Fox Strobe Spoon
The Rapala DT's and Shad Raps were on sale for $5 bucks, who could refuse that offer? Still havent gotten everything I want though. I am going to go back to get Super Spots, Zara Spooks, Poppers, and Spinnerbaits.
Rapala Shad Rap x2
Rapala DT 16
Rapala DT 14
Rapala Husky Jerk x2
Smithwick Suspending Super Rogue
Reef Runner
Bomber Long A
Mag Wart
Wiggle Wart x2
Mepps Aglia #5
BPS Tourney Series Micro Spin x2
Bomber Slab Spoon x2
Dardevle Spoon Blue/Chrome
Blue Fox Strobe Spoon
The Rapala DT's and Shad Raps were on sale for $5 bucks, who could refuse that offer? Still havent gotten everything I want though. I am going to go back to get Super Spots, Zara Spooks, Poppers, and Spinnerbaits.
02/23/2013 07:55PM
quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics.
Moonman."
Thanks for reminding me. How does one fish jigs? Do you just cast and retrieve?
02/23/2013 09:04PM
quote flyrodman: "quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics.
Moonman."
Thanks for reminding me. How does one fish jigs? Do you just cast and retrieve?"
That is the question for the ages. A good jig fisherman could outfish an average fisherman 10-1. Seriously.
Basically, first step is to adapt your jigging presentation to the fish mood - you can start with aggressive hops along bottom. They will hit it as the jig is falling after the hop and you will feel the fish the next time you hop or jig the lure.
Most times they are not super aggressive and this is where experience comes in. I like gentle hops most of the time, with definite pauses between jigging motions 3-5 slow seconds. Maintain a tight line always. If you have a good, fast action, sensitive jigging rod, especially with a small diameter braid (say PowerPro 8 or 10lb with a 3 foot flourocarbon leader), you will easily feel the lite tap tap of a hit.
I usually set the hook right away. Sometimes they are biting very lightly and it pays to let them chew on it for a second or so before setting the hook. Some guys keep the bail open, just holding the line with a finger and will give a bit of line before setting the hook (I seldom do this though). A stinger hook can help in this situation as well.
If you are tipping your jig with half a worm or leech, you will really up your catch rate if the fish are not overly aggressive. Concentrate on the pause. They will follow the jig and tip down and inhale your bait/jig when it is sitting still on the bottom. Keep a tight line and be ready for that tap tap.
Sometimes a real deadly technique is to slowly drag your jig on bottom with no hops at all. Also a lot of times (when the fish are fairly aggressive), a fish will hit your jig as it is falling to the bottom on the initial cast. Be ready for that. A lot of guys miss those hits because they are thinking about their retrieve, or looking at their finder etc etc.
Honestly a jig is like an information gathering tool. Besides live bait (hook and split shot) a jig probably outfishes all other baits combined. Hope this helps.
Moonman
02/24/2013 04:46AM
quote PineKnot: "I do not canoe in Quetico without the following:
Deep Husky Jerks, 19' depth, glass perch and blue/silver
1/4 and 3/8 oz chartruese spinnerbaits
Any Rapala type lure that swims 4-8 feet, bass and glass perch patternquote jeroldharter: "I am down on treble hooks. Seems like a lot of damage done to the fish. Given the conservation aspect of fishing in BWCA and Quetico I would not use them. Also, a fair number of fish caught on treble hooks aren't even hooked in the lip - more like flossing than fishing.
Seems like a pain to replace the hooks though. I would just not take any. Nothing like a treble hook to get buried in the skin and maybe ruin a trip too."
For several years now, I've gone barbless. Works just as well, it's simple to remove trebles from fish, and I don't worry about snagging the net or burying the trebles in myself or paddling partners..."
+1 all my plugs have crimped barbs and plugs with 3 hooks end up with 2. Rattle traps only one in back. What I also tried a couple of years ago is going with a wide gap circle hook to replace the trebles. Works great!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/snook_/Fishing%20Pictures/P1010280.jpg
Not familiar with how freshwater fish attack plugs but snook usually go for head first attack, notice circle hook perfect hook set.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a206/snook_/Fishing%20Pictures/Second2.jpg
BTW, thanks for posting pics of your fav lures, I am taking notes :-)
02/24/2013 08:48AM
I just picked up a perch design shad rap 5 yesterday. I think it will be one of my favorites this summer along with my perch design little cleo. What little experience I have has taught me that perch design is the ticket for targeting walleye. Some people talk about the benefit of showing fish something they've never seen before but it seems that there is more benefit to showing them something mimicking what they eat everyday, and walleye eat a lot of perch.
02/24/2013 08:01PM
When I first tried barbless on topwater plugs, I did lose a few fish. After a couple more trips I figured out that any slack in the line and having drag set too tight resulted in lost fish. I also switched from braid to mono on plug rod (for elasticity) just to overcome technical error on my part.
Now, use braid on plug rod and I crimp the barb on all lures including jigs when on wilderness trips. Very few if any fish are lost even when trolling. Easy to remove hook from fish and less damage to them and me. Just practice a bit before your trip.
Now, use braid on plug rod and I crimp the barb on all lures including jigs when on wilderness trips. Very few if any fish are lost even when trolling. Easy to remove hook from fish and less damage to them and me. Just practice a bit before your trip.
02/25/2013 01:29PM
quote flyrodman: "quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics.
Moonman."
Thanks for reminding me. How does one fish jigs? Do you just cast and retrieve?"
try cast and retrieve first. you'll be surprised how many you get, and still keep snags to a minimum.
02/25/2013 03:02PM
quote Moonman: "quote flyrodman: "quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics.
Moonman."
Thanks for reminding me. How does one fish jigs? Do you just cast and retrieve?"
ages. A good jig fisherman could outfish an average fisherman 10-1.
Moonman."
+1
" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein. WWJD
03/01/2013 03:11PM
If you like top-water fishing, try picking up a skitter pop, or something like that. I was up there in early July last year and it was awesome morning and evening for bass and pike.
Everyone else on here covered anything else I would've suggested. Good time of year to be up there, enjoy the trip!!
Everyone else on here covered anything else I would've suggested. Good time of year to be up there, enjoy the trip!!
03/01/2013 11:37PM
quote Basspro69: "quote Moonman: "quote flyrodman: "quote Moonman: "That looks like a great start. Don't forget a couple original floating raps, size 9 or 11, in perch and natural. Also some jigs - can be bucktails (my fav) or plastics.
Moonman."
Thanks for reminding me. How does one fish jigs? Do you just cast and retrieve?"
ages. A good jig fisherman could outfish an average fisherman 10-1.
Moonman."
+1"
+2 Got to remember that simple and less is almost always better for everything in life!
Find a Listening Point and visit often. Develop a Land Ethic and strive to live it.
03/04/2013 01:20PM
Walleye
- J9 3 1/2 inch gold jointed Rapala
- 4 3/4 inch gold husky jerk
- Berkley or Gulp leeches ( if in Quetico, if not get real thing )
Pike
- Bullfrog or leopard frog colored Lucky 13
- Pop-R
- Dardevle spoon 3 1/2 and 4 1/2 inch red and white
- Mepps size 5 blade with bucktail
Trout
- 3 1/4 inch hammered silver Dr. Spoon
- 4 1/2 inch nickel plated daredevle spoon
- One ounce white hair or plastic jig
Smallmouth
- Zulu soft plastic jerk bait ( any plain or combo of pearl color )
- Pop-R - shad colored
- Double willow blade chartreuse spinner bait
- Pumpkin green tubes
- J9 3 1/2 inch gold jointed Rapala
- 4 3/4 inch gold husky jerk
- Berkley or Gulp leeches ( if in Quetico, if not get real thing )
Pike
- Bullfrog or leopard frog colored Lucky 13
- Pop-R
- Dardevle spoon 3 1/2 and 4 1/2 inch red and white
- Mepps size 5 blade with bucktail
Trout
- 3 1/4 inch hammered silver Dr. Spoon
- 4 1/2 inch nickel plated daredevle spoon
- One ounce white hair or plastic jig
Smallmouth
- Zulu soft plastic jerk bait ( any plain or combo of pearl color )
- Pop-R - shad colored
- Double willow blade chartreuse spinner bait
- Pumpkin green tubes
I can be followed on Instagram @queticomike
03/04/2013 01:34PM
I forgot to mention I have written an article called Grand Slam Lures ( for fishing Quetico ) if you would like to read a copy send an email to queticomike@yahoo.com and title the email "Grand Slam" and I will send you a copy. Good luck this year!
I can be followed on Instagram @queticomike
05/03/2013 11:05AM
quote flyrodman: "Beachcamper, have you lost any fish do to debarbing hooks? I am unsure whether to do it or not."
Flyrodman,
Debarb some of your hooks. Fish. If you are losing fish this means you are not using line tension and rod flex appropriately. There should only be a negligible difference in hook holding from barbed to barbless if done right. Your rod bend and reading the fish is far more important for retention. Sure helps to have barbless if you ever stick yourself too! Hope this helps.
05/03/2013 11:55AM
My preferences, in order:
Topwaters (Spook, chug bug, pop r, torpedo, Sammie (banana shape), buzzbait)
Jigs/twist tails/tubes
Soft stick worms (zero, senkos, dingers), finesse worms, zulu
Jerkbaits (rapala, bomber, pointer)
Spinnerbaits (white, chartreuse, black, pumpkin), chatterbait
Diving crankbaits (Rebel craws and whatever looks good)
Lipless crankbaits (rattle trap, rattlin rap, clackin rap, etc)
Spoons
Bring more or less, as suits you. Popular colors, sizes. Fish a lot. Report on your success. Have fun!
Topwaters (Spook, chug bug, pop r, torpedo, Sammie (banana shape), buzzbait)
Jigs/twist tails/tubes
Soft stick worms (zero, senkos, dingers), finesse worms, zulu
Jerkbaits (rapala, bomber, pointer)
Spinnerbaits (white, chartreuse, black, pumpkin), chatterbait
Diving crankbaits (Rebel craws and whatever looks good)
Lipless crankbaits (rattle trap, rattlin rap, clackin rap, etc)
Spoons
Bring more or less, as suits you. Popular colors, sizes. Fish a lot. Report on your success. Have fun!
05/04/2013 01:03PM
Hands down my go to confidence bait that catches everything that swims is the Husky Jerk. Black/gold for walleyes, bass and northern. Purpledescent for early season lakers or stream trout.
For versitility you can't go wrong. You can twitch and pause it erratically, crank it slow near the surface, or troll it. Plus it suspends which can trigger less aggresive fish when you pause it for several seconds righ in their strike zone.
For versitility you can't go wrong. You can twitch and pause it erratically, crank it slow near the surface, or troll it. Plus it suspends which can trigger less aggresive fish when you pause it for several seconds righ in their strike zone.
05/23/2013 12:39AM
Hard to beat a husky jerk. Every type of fish seems to love it. I have caught walleyes, pike and smallmouth bass. The bass color, perch, blue top and chrome sides, black top grey sides, and fire tiger all work well. It also seems to run at the perfect depth and you can cast it, jerk it, or just troll it while you are paddling. Great action for trolling slow, medium or fast.
Shad Raps work well.
Daredevils. Seems like the black and white worked the best.
Buzzard which is the noisy top water spinner makes quite a racket and pike attack it.
Large inline spinner baits work well for large pick also.
Large Suick. While this thing takes up a lot of room in your tackle box, I have the large one that is 9 or 10 inches. Cast it, jerk, pause, jerk, pause and the pike destroyed it.
Shad Raps work well.
Daredevils. Seems like the black and white worked the best.
Buzzard which is the noisy top water spinner makes quite a racket and pike attack it.
Large inline spinner baits work well for large pick also.
Large Suick. While this thing takes up a lot of room in your tackle box, I have the large one that is 9 or 10 inches. Cast it, jerk, pause, jerk, pause and the pike destroyed it.
06/29/2013 01:03PM
As you can see, there are not many lures that are NOT listed. Don't worry about draining the bank account. Even if you don't make it as a fisherman you can still make it as a "collector."
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