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Chilly

07/25/2010 10:29PM

For the bwca I would say green sunfish. Pound for pound it can out duel them all. Of course catching one that weights a pound is another story.

Side note: For fresh water I'd say a steelhead that had in the last 3 days krept up a river and was looking for some action.

"Now days these kids take out everything: radar, sonar, electric toothbrushs" Quint

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wcummin1

07/25/2010 11:01PM

Brookies

The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, and miles to go before I sleep - Robert Frost

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togue

07/25/2010 11:31PM

catfish

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mr.barley

07/26/2010 12:10AM

I second sunfish. Can you imagine what they'd be like if they weighed 4 lbs? Scary tough.

serenity now

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shr2807

07/26/2010 10:33AM

My vote is for catfish.

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jeroldharter

07/26/2010 10:45AM

I suppose I could buy sunfish and brookies if you had said "ounce for ounce." But pound for pound (meaning fish commonly between 1-10 pounds)I would say smallmouth bass. If I had the choice of catching a 5 lb smallmouth, largemouth, walleye, northern pike, or catfish the easy answer would be the smallie.

A 5 pound brook trout would be pretty rare in most areas. I have never caught one that big to compare.

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timatkn

07/26/2010 11:42AM

yep sunfish for sure.

T

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Chilly

07/26/2010 12:15PM

Green Sunfish

"Now days these kids take out everything: radar, sonar, electric toothbrushs" Quint

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QueticoMike

07/26/2010 12:43PM

Bronzebacks

I can be followed on Instagram @queticomike

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ILikePike

07/26/2010 12:54PM

ill go with sunfish too. they still are very fun to catch as they zigzag the whole way in.

“Wilderness is not a luxury but a necessity of the human spirit” -Edward Abbey

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AndySG

07/26/2010 01:52PM

Smallies get my vote. Not only do they pull like a freight train, they frequently go airborne making the fight even more of a challenge. Anybody ever had a cat or sunfish leap 5 feet into the air? I haven't (yet.)

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apugarcia

07/26/2010 02:02PM

Georges St Pierre, no question

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mooseplums

07/26/2010 02:25PM

I say Bluegills, and Smallmouth.
But don't rule out the Common Carp.

"I am haunted by waters"~Norman Maclean "A River Runs Through It"

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fishguts

07/26/2010 04:32PM

I'm with you all on this one, however, once you have had a 35Lb Chinook Salmon take everything you have, muscle you around for a while then just head downstream and break you off, you have a new concept of "powerful".

fishguts

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overthehill

07/26/2010 05:13PM

Have never salmon fished. On bucket list. Yep, sunnies are hell for their size, but a smally (OR carp, now that you mention it) caught from RUNNING RIVER water can sure stack up there in the " per pound" class.

Not to Hurry-Not to Worry

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BWVet

07/26/2010 05:37PM

That is a tough one. I can remember some epic battles with big carp in the MN River. The thing about carp is they make such long runs. When they get to the middle of the river into the current they really know how to use it. Smallies are up there due to the never give up attitude and so are big flathead cats. Talk about hugging the bottom. I have a few stories about big flatheads and sore arms for days.

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myceliaman

07/26/2010 07:23PM

smallies are the champs

There comes a time when the blind man says don't ya see..

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snakecharmer

07/26/2010 08:14PM

Catching a 4lb sunnie would be like pulling in a barn door.

"Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after"
~ Henry David Thoreau

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groupleader42

07/26/2010 09:12PM

Sunfish are great, but river smallies are the best!

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timatkn

07/27/2010 07:55AM

quote snakecharmer: "Catching a 4lb sunnie would be like pulling in a barn door."

Yeah a 4-5 pound Sunny would blow the doors off of a similar sized smally--since we are talking pound for pound.

T

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Basspro69

07/27/2010 09:13AM

Its a dead heat between a Smallmouth Bass and a Chinook Salmon.

" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein. WWJD

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Jeriatric

07/27/2010 09:23AM

American shad

The business of life is the acquisition of memories. In the end that's all there is. ___Mr Carson (Downton Abby)

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gutmon

07/27/2010 10:03AM

Anyone else agree with me that pound for pound a 2 lb smallie fights harder than a 4 lb one?

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charby

07/27/2010 10:12AM

Fighting fish lb for lb?

1. Warmouth
2. Sunfish
3. Bluegill
4. Brook Trout
5. Rainbow
6. Smallmouth Bass
7. Common Carp
8. Largemouth Bass
9. Bullhead
10. Small Channel Cat

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Chilly

07/27/2010 10:14AM

quote gutmon: "Anyone else agree with me that pound for pound a 2 lb smallie fights harder than a 4 lb one?"

Yes! The few 19,20 and 21 inch bass I've caught all tried to jump but were too fat and just barely got out of the water. The big ones stay down more like a Brown Trout I find.

The 2lb bass will jet out of the water like a steelhead and pound for pound are a better fight.

A steelhead will make them all look like wimps though.

"Now days these kids take out everything: radar, sonar, electric toothbrushs" Quint

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bstrege

07/27/2010 10:16AM

FYI - the MN state record green sunfish is 1 pound 4.8 ounces.

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Chilly

07/27/2010 10:20AM

quote bstrege: "FYI - the MN state record green sunfish is 1 pound 4.8 ounces."

Ironically that was in my hometown and I spent some time fishing those gravel pits before it was legal. We caught some green sunfish but didn't know what it was at the time so we named them a "Pangravy" (gravel pit pan fish).

"Now days these kids take out everything: radar, sonar, electric toothbrushs" Quint

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kwiggy

07/27/2010 10:23AM

The salmon in a Grizzly's mouth... dang they can be hard to bring in.

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gutmon

07/27/2010 10:56AM

A laker through the ice can test your mettle...

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Basspro69

07/27/2010 03:40PM

quote gutmon: "Anyone else agree with me that pound for pound a 2 lb smallie fights harder than a 4 lb one?"

Yup I agree, and a 4 pounder fights harder than a 6 pounder .

" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein. WWJD

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AndySG

07/27/2010 04:47PM

quote Basspro69: "
quote gutmon: "Anyone else agree with me that pound for pound a 2 lb smallie fights harder than a 4 lb one?"
Yup I agree, and a 4 pounder fights harder than a 6 pounder ."

Yeah, we all get weaker as we age.

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gutmon

07/27/2010 08:45PM

quote AndySG: "
quote Basspro69: "
quote gutmon: "Anyone else agree with me that pound for pound a 2 lb smallie fights harder than a 4 lb one?"
Yup I agree, and a 4 pounder fights harder than a 6 pounder ."

Yeah, we all get weaker as we age. "

Fatter too- good observation!

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mc2mens

07/27/2010 08:51PM

quote gutmon: "
quote AndySG: "
quote Basspro69: "
quote gutmon: "Anyone else agree with me that pound for pound a 2 lb smallie fights harder than a 4 lb one?"
Yup I agree, and a 4 pounder fights harder than a 6 pounder ."

Yeah, we all get weaker as we age. "

Fatter too- good observation!"

Smarter though - theoretically speaking of course.

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silverback

07/27/2010 09:14PM

Interesting thread. Just as with a smallie, the smaller ones "fight" better than their larger brothers, a larger 4 lb sunny would also be "fatter" and therefore more sluggish. I'm not taking nothing away from the green sunfish, he's a real scrapper, but pound for pound, it's got to be the Muskellunge. Mr Muskie has teeth.

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark too read. Groucho Marx

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lundojam

07/27/2010 09:31PM

pound for pound the best fighter ever was Willie Pep.
Channel cat

"Life is not a beauty contest. It is a fishing contest." --me

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walleye_hunter

07/31/2010 11:25AM

Chilly you have started another interesting post. I bet you are a good teacher that requires your students to think about things that don't have one right answer.

In the BWCA I have never caught a 3# smallmouth that takes as long to catch or runs as much drag as a 3# laker in the spring or winter. So my opinion is that a laker is a superior sport fish to a smallmouth. Additionally, it takes me longer to land a 6# walleye than any 2,3 or 4# smally I have ever caught. 6 plus pound walleyes give a decent battle and fight with a heavy confident pull.

I lived in Alaska for a few years and it is hard to beat the power and urgency that chinook (king) salmon fight with.

"Man's heart away from nature becomes hard." Standing Bear

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Widespreadpanic

07/31/2010 12:01PM

Roberto Duran

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wilfish4food

07/31/2010 12:32PM

Bluegill - hands down!

Chicks Dig Me, Because I Fish!

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mr.barley

07/31/2010 03:44PM

quote Widespreadpanic: "Roberto Duran"

"no mas"....quitter

serenity now

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AndySG

07/31/2010 04:35PM

quote kwiggy: "The salmon in a Grizzly's mouth... dang they can be hard to bring in."

Good one, kwiggy! Reminds me of the time I was shore fishing in Key Largo. Cast my bait out and a Pelican swooped down, grabbed it and started flying off. Pulled awful dang hard until the 25 lb line snapped like a gunshot. I still wonder if the Pelican was hurt. Hope not.

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timatkn

07/31/2010 05:03PM

I've already answered but is is tough. For example walleye vs. smallmouth. An 18 ich smally fights harder than an 18-20 inch walleye yet that walleye is still almost a baby compared to the smally maturation wise. If you look at walleyes and smallys that are equal to maturity fairly close in size (4-6 pound range) the walleye will take longer to land 75% of the time. The smally will put on a better show and jump once or twice but will come in much easier/quicker--while the walleye will pull and stay deep. So probably depends on what you like Showmanship? or fight? I like a little of both.

Interesting some people name lakers. I've had mixed results with them. SOme of my best fights have been lakers around 10-12# and some of them have just felt like reeling in a log.

I suspect Muskie or Salmon would be tough but I have never caught either.

T

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Jeriatric

08/01/2010 01:21AM

I too, was mildly surprised by the mention of lakers. It was only after landing my first laker recently, that I realized that the three "snags" I had had earlier had all been lakers.

The business of life is the acquisition of memories. In the end that's all there is. ___Mr Carson (Downton Abby)

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arctic

08/02/2010 10:36PM

Lake trout, period. Unless, of course, we're fishing a North Shore river in spring. Then the answer would be: steelhead.

“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” -Edward Abbey

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nonamesleft47

08/04/2010 08:53AM

It depends on how you are fishing for the lakers. All of my fish before last year had been trolling a 3 way rig with a spoon.

Last year I found a spot where we could anchor in 10 feet of water and cast into 90. There were two loons out feeding in front of us and I cast between them with a spoon on my first cast. Half way up something bit and started burning drag. I thought for sure one of the loons had grabbed my spoon. After several good runs and alot of head shaking a nice 10 lb laker surfaced. I was pretty suprised as I had visions of trying to unhook a young loon. We fished there several times though the week and all of the fish we caught put up a great fight.

For BWCA I'd have to say laker, smallie, pike and wally. Sorry wally fans, even the large ones I've caught (biggest 29") haven't shown me much as far as fight goes.

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deanalika

08/04/2010 10:22AM

I disagree with you all.... I would say the north American stick fish is the worst.... lost many of hooks to these monsters..

Picture of the monster....ARGHHHH

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BrownTrout01

08/04/2010 10:39AM

quote arctic: "Lake trout, period. Unless, of course, we're fishing a North Shore river in spring. Then the answer would be: steelhead."

I would guess a close cousin... the Atlantic Salmon, but have never fished for them. Then again have not fished for lake trout in the far north either.

Pound for pound bluegill or sunfish seems to be a long standing consensus.

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lbush19d

08/04/2010 05:14PM

quote wilfish4food: "Bluegill - hands down! "

I second the bluegill. Remember the question for "pound for pound" or "ounce for ounce." ;)

That being said the most fun Ive ever had fighting a fish was a 42 inch Pike on a medium 6 1/2 foot casting rod with a 1/2 rattletrap. Intense...

Do not look to the ground for your next step; greatness lies with those who look to the horizon. --Norwegian Proverb

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arctic

08/04/2010 05:32PM

quote BrownTrout01: "
quote arctic: "Lake trout, period. Unless, of course, we're fishing a North Shore river in spring. Then the answer would be: steelhead."

I would guess a close cousin... the Atlantic Salmon, but have never fished for them. Then again have not fished for lake trout in the far north either.

Yeah, from what I've read it would be hard to beat an Atlantic salmon for fighting ability, but I have never fished for them or even seen one. Too bad they are no longer stocked in Lake Superior.

“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.” -Edward Abbey

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BrownTrout01

08/07/2010 01:36PM

Yeah, from what I've read it would be hard to beat an Atlantic salmon for fighting ability, but I have never fished for them or even seen one. Too bad they are no longer stocked in Lake Superior."

Now that sounds like fun!

The panfish near home seem to take me down into the weeds more then the bass.

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Corndog

08/07/2010 03:44PM

Panfish are extra fun on ultra light rods. SO much fun..........

OMG "Corndogged again!" My all time favorite quote.

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fisher

08/09/2010 09:07AM

im gonna have to go with laketrout.
i've never had anything else fight until it spun itself in to a mono filament mummy wrap. im pretty sure that was the only thing that slowed him down.

im the guy the forest service warned you about

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Chilly

08/09/2010 03:53PM

If your after sea shells a mermaid will put up a purdy good fight as well.

"Now days these kids take out everything: radar, sonar, electric toothbrushs" Quint

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blutofish1

08/09/2010 04:23PM

Redear sunfish. A 10 or 11 incher is something to bring in on light tackle.

blutofish

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Corndog

08/09/2010 07:39PM

quote Chilly: "If your after sea shells a mermaid will put up a purdy good fight as well."

Chilly, did you mean see smell from a barmaid? They can put up a good fight.

OMG "Corndogged again!" My all time favorite quote.

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Basspro69

08/09/2010 11:04PM

Only a few times in my life have i had my line completely spooled by a fish, and it was chinooks every time, next time you see a bus driving by hook it and set your drag and see if it stops, that is the fight of a King Salmon ( Chinook ) !

" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein. WWJD

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TheBrownLeader

08/13/2010 02:01PM

I think the Smallmouth is the largest member of the sunfish family. So for those of you that voted Sunfish or Smallmouth, contratulations! You are both right! I would say smallmouth for sure.

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Themyth

08/13/2010 03:22PM

Smallmouth, hands down.

~The Myth

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timatkn

08/13/2010 05:28PM

quote TheBrownLeader: "I think the Smallmouth is the largest member of the sunfish family. So for those of you that voted Sunfish or Smallmouth, contratulations! You are both right! I would say smallmouth for sure."

Same family biologically. Not the same fish though. So I DO NOT vote for the smallmouth bass.

Have you have ever caught a 2 pound smally and a 2 pound sunfish? There is no comparison in my mind.

Just kidding of course. The best fighter is the one currently on the end of my line.

T

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Corndog

08/13/2010 05:38PM

I think Sunny's are pirahna without teeth.

OMG "Corndogged again!" My all time favorite quote.

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golanibutch

08/17/2010 01:43PM

3 lb bluefish anywhere in new england on light gear makes a smallie seem weak.

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Magic

08/17/2010 08:51PM

CATFISH- hands down!! channel or flathead. This a simalar question was posted in another fishing site and Catfish took it. Other fish may have a more dramatic strike/bite but a cat will keep pulling ang pulling.

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Amok

08/19/2010 12:34PM

Sunfish, any variety (bluegill, GREEN sunfish, NOT BASS). I think it's their wide fat bodies that makes them fight the hardest.

Trust, but verify. The Lord will provide !!!!

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billsta

12/22/2010 05:58PM

A little late to this conversation, but it's a good thread so I'll weigh in.
I can understand the pound for pound argument for sunfish. My initial reaction was smallmouth...but it's a tough call.
I'll say one thing with no doubt in my mind: Smallmouth are the most FUN to catch, especially on topwaters!

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PineKnot

12/22/2010 10:14PM

Anyone ever catch stingrays or sheepshead? All over the brackish waters of Mobile Bay. Rays are really tough.

Do what you can, with what you have, where you are -- Teddy Roosevelt

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Arlo Pankook

12/23/2010 07:54AM

Yeah if were talking saltwater stingrays and Redfish get my vote. In the B-dub I would have to say that a two pound Lake Trout on 4# test would be pushing your luck. Whereas a two pound Bluegill or Smallmouth on 4# is no big deal.

All Rapalas that wander are not lost.

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gorytt

12/23/2010 10:38AM

I would have to say a 300 lb. 8 foot river sturgeon that my husband caught on the Columbia River out of Portland Oregon. Was at least a good 30 minutes of fighting. Came out of the water and shook his head like a monster bass. Something we will never forget.
Also everyone should give it a try. I myself never did catch one over 5 or 6 feet but that was plenty big for me.

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BlueWingOlive

12/23/2010 10:40AM

hmmmm.... Well I've never caught a lake trout or walleye, but that'll change next summer! Most of my fishing experience has been salt water, and fly fishing for trout. So with that in mind; I would have to go with bonefish for saltwater (even though I had a 60lb yellow fin almost give me a heart attack last July) and for fresh water brookies (however that might be a bit biased, brookies are probably my favorite fish).

It has always been my private conviction that any man who pits his intelligence against a fish and loses has it coming. ~John Steinbeck

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OffTheBeatenPath

12/23/2010 12:33PM

I love the fight in Pike, but their stamina is pretty week. For my money, I will say Carp. It's hard to imagine how a "turd with fins" is able to put up such a fight!

How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?

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Jeriatric

12/23/2010 03:20PM

The depth of water the fish is hooked in can make a difference. A four pound rainbow or smallie hooked at 40-60 feet water seems to leave the impression of having put up a good fight much more so than the same fish caught in shallow water, despite the occasional jump.

The business of life is the acquisition of memories. In the end that's all there is. ___Mr Carson (Downton Abby)

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gsfisher13

12/24/2010 10:31PM

My vote would be smallies. Caught a couple last summer that put up a great fight and yes the smaller ones (12-14") seemed to fight more than the larger one (18").

I only caught one pike and I gotta say I was seriously disappointed, 22" and it barely fought coming to the boat, didn't even splash me. They'd be at the bottom of my list.

Carp is interesting, the last one I caught was when I was 10 or 11 years old, at the time I thought it was huge and going to pull my arms off :) Guess it's a matter of perspective.

Not all those who wander are lost - J.R.R.Tolkien

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Walleye001

12/26/2010 10:14PM

Smallmouth all way

Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs build the ark, professional build the Titanic.

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marc bates

12/27/2010 03:11PM

I have caught everything talked about on here except the Bonefish. I would agree with the panfish for pound for pound, I would also agree the sunfish is the best out of those. I also 2nd the idea of Carp. I would put them 2nd. I have had some unbelievable fights with Carp in rivers.

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AndySG

12/27/2010 06:56PM

In my opinion, any salt water species, pound for pound, seem to pull twice as hard as any fresh water fish, except for Musky. I caught my first Musky this fall and would say they fight as hard as comparable salt water species.

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kenejosephson

01/01/2011 05:19PM

Arctic Grayling gets my vote

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jkahler

01/01/2011 10:31PM

I'm a diehard musky guy, but smallmouths fight harder & longer. If only they grew to 50lbs...

Chinooks and Steelhead are supposed to be great fighters but I have never fished for them.

Panfish are aggressive, but not a hard fighter like a sm bass in my opinion.

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chadwick

01/06/2011 10:24AM

tuna, no question.

www.chadwicksfishing.com chadwicks fishing guide service, Kenai River guided fishing.

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missmolly

01/06/2011 11:00AM

Striped bass, who fight the tide and are therefore mean and lean, and their cousin, the white bass, which doesn't get near enough recognition. A two-pound white bass will make your rod look like an inverted U. I sometimes catch three of them at a time and that's great fun. I'll pass over a school and will hook two on minnows. Then I'll toss a jig and hook a third. It's a hoot, but it's dancing with devil, since they zig when they fight and can cross lines if you don't separate them at the start.

I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.

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blutofish1

01/09/2011 04:32PM

In my area I'd have to say it's the Wiper.Catch them often while crappie fishing.

blutofish

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wtgmonkey

01/09/2011 05:03PM

Smallrusses for the weight. For straight up fight I'd say carp on light gear.

"Champions are measured by the adversity they overcome"

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wawasee

01/10/2011 08:15AM

Boy I'm gonna say Tammy this girl I dated in high school she wouldn't let me do anything!

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griswold

01/20/2011 08:29PM

Bluegills on the fly rod

Generally speaking, a howling wilderness does not howl: it is the imagination of the traveler that does the howling.~Thoreau

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gsfisher13

01/20/2011 10:13PM

quote wawasee: "Boy I'm gonna say Tammy this girl I dated in high school she wouldn't let me do anything!"

Did you mean to post this in the Pound for pound worst fighter (you)? You need to hit the weight room and man up.

Not all those who wander are lost - J.R.R.Tolkien

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GeoFisher

01/20/2011 10:16PM

Hands down........Hybrid Striped Bass.......

Nothing I've ever caught that is even remotely close.

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lazypaw

01/21/2011 04:18PM

quote Basspro69: "Only a few times in my life have i had my line completely spooled by a fish, and it was chinooks every time, next time you see a bus driving by hook it and set your drag and see if it stops, that is the fight of a King Salmon ( Chinook ) !"

I'll Second that...

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Jeriatric

01/21/2011 08:08PM

quote wtgmonkey: "Smallrusses for the weight. For straight up fight I'd say carp on light gear."

The business of life is the acquisition of memories. In the end that's all there is. ___Mr Carson (Downton Abby)

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AndySG

01/22/2011 02:49PM

quote Jeriatric: "
quote wtgmonkey: "Smallrusses for the weight. For straight up fight I'd say carp on light gear."

"

Now thats One Ugly Fish!!!

Most Disturbing.

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maxxbhp

02/02/2011 09:50PM

This doesn't really apply, but I caught an Amberjack off Orange Beach Alabama back in about 90. It was a company trip, we'd had some to drink, and I literally got scared this thing was gonna pull me out of the boat. Got him in, I'm guessing about 20 pounds, the deck hand says "we gotta throw him back, he's too small".I said, "What?" He said, "Yeh, they get well over 100 pounds." I gave somebody else the rod and found me a chair in the shade

"...And the days I keep my gratitude higher than my expectations, .......well, I have really good days". Ray Wiley Hubbard

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Rich11

02/03/2011 12:37AM

Im not the best fisherman out there, But the biggest fish I ever caugt was a 2 1/2 pound channel cat and I think some of the bigger blue gill ive caught put up a bigger fight

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Arlo Pankook