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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Fishing Forum scale 'em or skin 'em |
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01/23/2013 07:15PM
When cleaning fish to eat, do you scale and then fillet your fish or do you fillet and then skin your fillets? I want to try some skin-on fillets this coming season and cook larger size pieces of fish. Normally, I skin our walleyes and make smaller pieces for easier frying. Looking for a change this year and wondering what others usually do.
01/23/2013 09:38PM
I think 25 plus years ago most people scaled crappies and bluegills. Now it seems most take the skin off. I do both on crappies and sunfish,sometimes I will leave the skin on half of them.
Something I am curious about is nutrient content of skin and are contaminants more prevalent in skin?
Small trout I often leave the skin on also.
Something I am curious about is nutrient content of skin and are contaminants more prevalent in skin?
Small trout I often leave the skin on also.
01/23/2013 10:57PM
bought an electic scaler (tub type) from cabellas, now just drop 25 perch or gills in turn it on and 12-14 min. later ready to fillet and debone. takes half the time it used to take and they are better with the skin on in my opinion. walleye still skin and fillet.
01/23/2013 11:22PM
Filet and skin for good-sized fish. I haven't had a batch of pan fish in awhile so I don't know what I'd do for sure. I am guessing I might filet Sacramento perch and scale blue gill and crappie.
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01/24/2013 08:02AM
I fillet Gamefish all the time and panfish most of the time, but every once in awhile I will scale the crappies, then fillet out the bones and leave the skin on, I love that cruch of a crappies skin with cornmeal .
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01/24/2013 09:53AM
We used to just scale our bluegills, then cut the heads off and scrape the guts out with our thumbs before frying, leaving the bones in.
As my father-in-law would say: "Ya get hungry eatin' 'em."
As my father-in-law would say: "Ya get hungry eatin' 'em."
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -- Yogi Berra
01/24/2013 12:10PM
quote PINETREE: "I think 25 plus years ago most people scaled crappies and bluegills. Now it seems most take the skin off. I do both on crappies and sunfish,sometimes I will leave the skin on half of them.
Something I am curious about is nutrient content of skin and are contaminants more prevalent in skin?
Small trout I often leave the skin on also.
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I still gut'n'scale most smaller fish, tastes better IMO and probably results in slightly less wasted meat.
Not sure on the nutrion of the skin proper BUT most of the major fat deposits on fish are right against the skin and that will saturate the skin. Mostly along the backbone, belly, and lateral line. The fat is rich in omega fatty acids and very healthy on it's own. The problem is that PCBs and Dioxins tend to end up in the fat (not really the case with Mercury and some other contamients).
Mercury is very wide spread but PCBs and Dioxins are only in certain bodies of water. I'd check the advisories for your lake/river of choice before eating very many meals including fish skins - especially from larger/fattier fish. I quick scanned and noticed Lac La Croix has having an advisory regarding Dioxins but I did not notice any other Dioxin or PCB related issues in the BW - might be a few I missed though.
01/24/2013 12:36PM
Also -as a broad generalization Dioxins and PCBs are more likely to an issue in larger rivers and lakes. Again that is a broad generalization. Like Mercury they can end up in remote waters but Mercury is much more widespread, mercury ends up in extremely remote lakes. I know I've seen mercury advisories on high mountain lakes that I've backpacked into.
01/26/2013 08:43PM
Mercury in backcountry lakes is a factor of logging disturbing the soil and washing trapped Mercury into lakes...and it takes several lifetimes for it to dissipate. If there has been any logging in the last 100yrs around a lake you are tripping into it will almost always have elevated Mercury levels.
As for scale vs. skin, for me it depends on the fish. Pickeral (walleye to you Yankees :P ) I fillet & skin. But trout & pike I scale and cook with the skin on.
BTW -- Pike has the sweetest white meat this side of Yellow Perch, you just need to learn the 5 Fillet method of cleaning them boneless. Tastier than Pickeral even, just longer to clean.
I never eat bass, but I would skin them. Just to get them to taste less like bass. :D
As for scale vs. skin, for me it depends on the fish. Pickeral (walleye to you Yankees :P ) I fillet & skin. But trout & pike I scale and cook with the skin on.
BTW -- Pike has the sweetest white meat this side of Yellow Perch, you just need to learn the 5 Fillet method of cleaning them boneless. Tastier than Pickeral even, just longer to clean.
I never eat bass, but I would skin them. Just to get them to taste less like bass. :D
03/09/2016 09:23PM
Old but interesting topic. My time does fly since this was originally posted.
Do you eat the skin. I do on sunfish,crappie,a occasional small lake trout or brook trout.
Like I stated previously when younger we always ate panfish with the skin on,than I went into a period I skinned everything and I think most people do now.
I went back to scaling and eating panfish with the skin on.
Also only at home after cleaning the fish I now put them in a salt broth for like 10 minutes to clean slim and things out of the meat. Than rinse and wash completely.
Am I the only one to use salt at all?
had fresh crappie tonight-loved it.
Do you eat the skin. I do on sunfish,crappie,a occasional small lake trout or brook trout.
Like I stated previously when younger we always ate panfish with the skin on,than I went into a period I skinned everything and I think most people do now.
I went back to scaling and eating panfish with the skin on.
Also only at home after cleaning the fish I now put them in a salt broth for like 10 minutes to clean slim and things out of the meat. Than rinse and wash completely.
Am I the only one to use salt at all?
had fresh crappie tonight-loved it.
03/10/2016 07:45AM
skin 'em...even the little members of the Sunfish and Perch families. Don't like the skin. If ya use the smallest Rap filet knife the little ones are easier...not perfect, but a mess of big 'ol Bream---well now, that's just FINE DINING!!!! I know, you Walleye guys are gonna "slice and dice" me, but those little guys are my FAV!!!
03/10/2016 07:50AM
Pinetree, with perch/panfish I fillet, debone then put them in saltwater overnight in the fridge then rinse well in water and vacuum seal. Yesterday I found a bag of perch vacuum sealed april 2014 in the freezer and had them for dinner last night, just as good as fresh caught.
03/10/2016 08:49AM
quote mutz: "Pinetree, with perch/panfish I fillet, debone then put them in saltwater overnight in the fridge then rinse well in water and vacuum seal. Yesterday I found a bag of perch vacuum sealed april 2014 in the freezer and had them for dinner last night, just as good as fresh caught."
You freeze in water they last forever.
03/10/2016 09:03AM
quote Pinetree: "+1quote mutz: "Pinetree, with perch/panfish I fillet, debone then put them in saltwater overnight in the fridge then rinse well in water and vacuum seal. Yesterday I found a bag of perch vacuum sealed april 2014 in the freezer and had them for dinner last night, just as good as fresh caught."
You freeze in water they last forever."
" I want to know Gods thoughts , The rest are details " Albert Einstein. WWJD
03/10/2016 12:38PM
quote Basspro69: "quote Pinetree: "+1"quote mutz: "Pinetree, with perch/panfish I fillet, debone then put them in saltwater overnight in the fridge then rinse well in water and vacuum seal. Yesterday I found a bag of perch vacuum sealed april 2014 in the freezer and had them for dinner last night, just as good as fresh caught."
You freeze in water they last forever."
I have heard this before but my worry would be the time to thaw. I use a vacuum sealer although I probably don't even need to use that since I usually have it consumed within a month or two.
03/10/2016 07:10PM
quote mutz: "I have never had a vacuum sealed fish get freezer burn or anything but 12 to 18 months is as long as I have ever had them. saves a lot of room in the freezer if vacuum sealed rather than in bags of water."+1 yes if you havent eaten them within a year why would you keep them ;) but i do live in a state with limits.
keep your line wet, good things will happen
03/10/2016 11:08PM
quote shock: "quote mutz: "I have never had a vacuum sealed fish get freezer burn or anything but 12 to 18 months is as long as I have ever had them. saves a lot of room in the freezer if vacuum sealed rather than in bags of water."+1 yes if you havent eaten them within a year why would you keep them ;) but i do live in a state with limits.
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Shock
We also have limits, possession limit is two days limit so 100 perch or 200 filets. I normally eat 10-15 filets at a meal if we have company we may eat 50-60 filets. sometime a bag of filets gets pushed to the bottom of the freezer or doesn't get eaten in order it could be year old by the time its eaten. Don't assume someone has over there limit because they have a bunch of fish in the freezer, limits vary from state to state.
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