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plumbbob
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02/04/2014 12:08PM  
I have not been up to the B.W.C.A. for some time now. So I am looking for some helpful tips. When we were there last we used a lot of minnows and a few leaches. But down in Illinois where I live now I use mostly all crank bait. I'm planning a trip in may so any helpful hints would be really great full.
 
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02/04/2014 12:33PM  
In the bwca I prefer leeches over anything else for walleyes . Crank baits have their time and place, but I think a leech will out produce artificial 90% of the time.
 
The Great Outdoors
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02/04/2014 02:29PM  
Yeah, crank baits have their time and place all right.
In the garbage can, anytime,day or night!! :)
 
Jackfish
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02/04/2014 02:38PM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "Yeah, crank baits have their time and place all right.
In the garbage can, anytime,day or night!! :)"

Spoken like a true live bait salesman! Lol (but if I can use leeches, especially for walleyes, I'm using them.)
 
2old4U
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02/04/2014 02:45PM  
Bring the cranks AND the leeches. Minnows can get left behind unless it is a late fall trip then bring them!
 
Basspro69
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02/04/2014 03:14PM  
quote plumbbob: "I have not been up to the B.W.C.A. for some time now. So I am looking for some helpful tips. When we were there last we used a lot of minnows and a few leaches. But down in Illinois where I live now I use mostly all crank bait. I'm planning a trip in may so any helpful hints would be really great full."

What species are you fishing for, are you targeting one species in particular, or does it matter.
 
OldGreyGoose
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02/04/2014 03:42PM  
With all the soft plastics -- Yum, Gulp, Impulse -- imitating live bait, why limit the discussion to just cranks??? --Goose
 
plumbbob
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02/04/2014 04:08PM  
We are heading to Cherokee from Sawbill and then back down through Jack and Kelly so I am hoping to catch a little bit of everything ( lake trout, pike, small mouth and some walleye). Thank you all for your tips and before I moved down out of Minnesota all I used was live bait. The last time I was up there we used live bait and old copper lures (no color) basically what I am asking is what colors are good.
 
02/04/2014 04:15PM  
quote OldGreyGoose: "With all the soft plastics -- Yum, Gulp, Impulse -- imitating live bait, why limit the discussion to just cranks??? --Goose"

agree, I have done extremely well in quetico with 3 to 5 inch twister tails . Great for walleye, Lakers, and on occasion some trophy northerns.
 
OldGreyGoose
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02/04/2014 04:22PM  
I might add that many die-hard walleye fishermen have gone completely to artificial in the past few years, even where live bait is legal, and readily available. --Goose
 
The Great Outdoors
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02/04/2014 04:28PM  
quote Jackfish: "
quote The Great Outdoors: "Yeah, crank baits have their time and place all right.
In the garbage can, anytime,day or night!! :)"

Spoken like a true live bait salesman! Lol (but if I can use leeches, especially for walleyes, I'm using them.)"

That may be true about being a live bait salesman, but I have NEVER advocated the use of crank baits when anyone asked how to catch fish. I want them to catch fish, especially if they have young children with them.

If they ignore my advice and insist on buying crank baits, well, I tried but they didn't listen!! :(

 
QueticoMike
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02/04/2014 05:51PM  
quote 2old4U: "Bring the cranks AND the leeches. Minnows can get left behind unless it is a late fall trip then bring them!"

I agree. If you are not fully confident in your lure fishing then by all means bring some leeches with you as well as lures.
 
mutz
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02/04/2014 06:27PM  
Always live for us if available, but I'm willing to use whatever the fish are biting at the time.
 
Arlo Pankook
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02/04/2014 09:26PM  
quote QueticoMike: "
quote 2old4U: "Bring the cranks AND the leeches. Minnows can get left behind unless it is a late fall trip then bring them!"

I agree. If you are not fully confident in your lure fishing then by all means bring some leeches with you as well as lures."

Ice fishing or severe cold fronts are grounds for live bait :)
 
The Great Outdoors
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02/04/2014 10:52PM  
Ashamed to say that I never use live bait when jigging for lake trout through the ice! :(
 
Basspro69
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02/05/2014 08:10AM  
quote plumbbob: "We are heading to Cherokee from Sawbill and then back down through Jack and Kelly so I am hoping to catch a little bit of everything ( lake trout, pike, small mouth and some walleye). Thank you all for your tips and before I moved down out of Minnesota all I used was live bait. The last time I was up there we used live bait and old copper lures (no color) basically what I am asking is what colors are good."

Gold and Silver mepps spinners, rattle traps gold and silver, little cleos 1/4 or 1/3 ounce silver or silver blue or green combos for lures at that time of year.Jigs tipped with Minnows and leeches will serve you well, or a slip bobber should do the trick. I would use the lures to locate fish and slow down and fish them with live bait.
 
QueticoMike
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02/05/2014 10:02AM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "Ashamed to say that I never use live bait when jigging for lake trout through the ice! :("


Now doesn't that take a load off of your shoulders by being open and honest about actually using something other than live bait? :-)

What kind of jigs are you using for those lakers? Any certain color? What weight? How has your season been?
 
The Great Outdoors
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02/05/2014 03:12PM  
Haven't been out yet, too damn cold and windy! :(
When I do go, I normally use a 3/8th oz. white buck tailed, banana head jig tipped with a Berkley 3 inch Realistic Smelt.
Otherwise, I use any small spoon (1/8 to 1/4 oz.) and a 1 inch Berkley Power Nymph hooked on one of the trebles.
The spoons can be Buckshot Rattle Spoons, Forage Minnows, Kast Masters, Gapen Flicker, Lindy Viking Spoons, etc.
Color of the spoons doesn't seem to matter, the 1 inch Power Nymph used with them appears to be the reason the trout hit.
 
Savage Voyageur
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02/05/2014 05:27PM  
Leeches travel very well and stay alive longer. Jumbo leeches are the way to go.
 
mutz
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02/05/2014 07:41PM  
TGO you might try a number 7 white Swedish pimple tipped with half of a 3 inch blue I prefer the head half. Got three lake trout today.
 
The Great Outdoors
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02/05/2014 09:32PM  
I always fish Burntside for Trout, and smaller lures/bait work the best.
The lake is infested with smelt, to the point of them being stunted.
The Swedish Pimple you described is a bit larger than I like to use for this lake.
 
QueticoMike
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02/06/2014 08:12AM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "Haven't been out yet, too damn cold and windy! :(
When I do go, I normally use a 3/8th oz. white buck tailed, banana head jig tipped with a Berkley 3 inch Realistic Smelt.
Otherwise, I use any small spoon (1/8 to 1/4 oz.) and a 1 inch Berkley Power Nymph hooked on one of the trebles.
The spoons can be Buckshot Rattle Spoons, Forage Minnows, Kast Masters, Gapen Flicker, Lindy Viking Spoons, etc.
Color of the spoons doesn't seem to matter, the 1 inch Power Nymph used with them appears to be the reason the trout hit."


Well if it warms up above 0 and you get out, please post an update. Pictures are always welcomed :)
 
The Great Outdoors
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02/06/2014 02:17PM  
When I get out, I'll let you know how I did.
Pictures may be a problem, as I don't take too many, and when I do, lack the ability to post them with my total absence of computer skills!!
I may have to suck up to Lynn at VNO, to see if I can con her into posting them.
That's gonna kill me!!!!! :)
 
QueticoMike
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02/06/2014 05:10PM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "When I get out, I'll let you know how I did.
Pictures may be a problem, as I don't take too many, and when I do, lack the ability to post them with my total absence of computer skills!!
I may have to suck up to Lynn at VNO, to see if I can con her into posting them.
That's gonna kill me!!!!! :)"


Good luck! With the fish and Lynn :)
 
02/06/2014 05:55PM  
quote walllee: "
quote OldGreyGoose: "With all the soft plastics -- Yum, Gulp, Impulse -- imitating live bait, why limit the discussion to just cranks??? --Goose"

agree, I have done extremely well in quetico with 3 to 5 inch twister tails . Great for walleye, Lakers, and on occasion some trophy northerns."
+1 scented twister tails can out produce leeches and spring/fall leeches can be hard to get. i've mentioned this before 1 of the most under rated lures is a 1/4 jig with a twister tail and add a jig spinner like little joes (experiment) with colors. in very windy conditions bump up to a 3/4 jig head it cast like a bullet, add a 5" tail gives the profile of a larger bait. and as the water warms up sometimes crankbaits will trigger strikes when nothing else does.
 
Chross16
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02/09/2014 07:31PM  
Forgive my ignorance, but when you put a twister tail on a jig do you jig that rig, cast, or troll? Thanks for schooling me!
 
02/09/2014 07:50PM  
There are times to do all that you mentioned. One of my favorite methods is just to drift fish, deadly tactic if the wind is right. I anchor over and around structure a lot also. Casting a jig and twister can produce fish, Just slowly reel it in bumping the bottom as you retrieve the bait. Also vertical jigging right under the boat is a very productive method. Slow trolling is also a favorite.
 
Arlo Pankook
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02/09/2014 08:25PM  
I usually start by rippin it and slow down from there...the fish will tell you what they want.
 
Chross16
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02/10/2014 07:26PM  
right on! thanks. I have not tried that method and I am excited to give it a go this summer! If it ever gets here! :)
 
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