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motox380
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04/16/2014 02:24PM  
Hi, I am new to BWCA, I was looking for proper ways to clean fish, deal with entrails etc. I assume you clean away from camp or opposite shore. Would like to hear how others do it.
 
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Savage Voyageur
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04/16/2014 02:32PM  
This will get many answers. Some dump the guts on a rock for the Eagles to eat. Some dump the fish guts in the water away from camp. The people in charge of the BWCA want all fish guts taken out in the woods and buried. Thats what we do also. The guts are gone by the morning when we take them out in the woods and bury them. The Problem comes when the guts are dumped on shore near camp or out in the water near camp and it looks like a fish graveyard.
 
Beemer01
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04/16/2014 03:43PM  
Yep. The problem with burying them is that digging deep enough is a real problem and rotting fish by themselves attract Bears.

I clean my fish and take the remains out to black water and dump them - I never toss them into the shallow water by shore.
 
The Great Outdoors
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04/16/2014 03:46PM  
I agree with Beemer01!
Clean the fish and dump the guts in about 6-12 inches of water on some shoreline, away from all campsites.
Now I know there will be some that will not agree, but I have found that they have not spent much time in any wilderness, and don't really know how things work.
Mother Nature lets any fish that dies in the lake, stay in the lake, until it rots or gets eaten.
If it's good enough for her, it should be good enough for anyone!!
 
04/16/2014 03:46PM  
ya its hard to dig in rock. we take guts to an opposite shoreline dump on the rocks for gulls-eagles etc... turtles-crawfish-etc like guts too
 
brantlars
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04/16/2014 03:59PM  
We do the same..dump them in the woods or in water/shoreline far from campsites.

About 8 years ago when they were changing the rules from "put them in the water" to "bury them in the woods " we were at camp and were checked by some USFS people. They chewed our ass for putting the guts on the opposite shoreline. So I said that was what it said to do in the video I watched before getting my permit. They said " well we are changing that because this is not a gulls natural environment". Kinda funny since we were only a couple miles from Seagull Lake!
 
missmolly
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04/16/2014 05:30PM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "I agree with Beemer01!
Clean the fish and dump the guts in about 6-12 inches of water on some shoreline, away from all campsites.
Now I know there will be some that will not agree, but I have found that they have not spent much time in any wilderness, and don't really know how things work.
Mother Nature lets any fish that dies in the lake, stay in the lake, until it rots or gets eaten.
If it's good enough for her, it should be good enough for anyone!!
"


I just heave them out from my campsite into the water, but then I'm fishing where there aren't rules for fish disposal. From the second day on, there's a camp turtle who awaits the next heave and watches me when not eating. I love the camp turtle.
 
starman
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04/16/2014 07:01PM  
If there's a loud group on the lake I'm on I wait until they are out for a paddle and throw the guts in the brush right near their tent. Just seems the most logical for me.
 
Basspro69
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04/16/2014 07:29PM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "I agree with Beemer01!
Clean the fish and dump the guts in about 6-12 inches of water on some shoreline, away from all campsites.
Now I know there will be some that will not agree, but I have found that they have not spent much time in any wilderness, and don't really know how things work.
Mother Nature lets any fish that dies in the lake, stay in the lake, until it rots or gets eaten.
If it's good enough for her, it should be good enough for anyone!!
"
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04/17/2014 01:35PM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "I agree with Beemer01!
Clean the fish and dump the guts in about 6-12 inches of water on some shoreline, away from all campsites.
Now I know there will be some that will not agree, but I have found that they have not spent much time in any wilderness, and don't really know how things work.
Mother Nature lets any fish that dies in the lake, stay in the lake, until it rots or gets eaten.
If it's good enough for her, it should be good enough for anyone!!
"

So which is it...you agree, OR you dump them along the shore??? (Black water is DEEP water...or bog areas.)
 
04/17/2014 01:49PM  
I dump in the water well away from camp. But I first puncture the air bladder to make sure they sink. If not, a carcass may not sink and wind up floating on the surface. Not a problem for a hungry eagle, but may be an unwelcome sight for a passing canoeist.
 
Excarpi
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04/17/2014 02:39PM  
According to the United States Forest Services: Dispose of fish remains by traveling well away from shorelines, campsites, trails, and portages.
Link for info

Personally, we put them on rocks well away from camp. The are gone within a few hours.

Last year on Brule, we were at a campsite where previous visitors put their fish remains about 30 feet behind the fire grate, between camp and the toilet. The remains were pretty fresh, smelly, and maggot covered. The people who stayed at the campsite either stayed there for a long time or were catching more fish that allowed. There were probably 20 piles of fish guts.

 
mutz
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04/17/2014 03:40PM  
We have always put them out on the rocks, they have always been gone the next day.
 
mgraber
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04/17/2014 04:30PM  
Since we are usually in Quetico we follow their rules of putting remains on an exposed rock well away from camp or depositing in deep water. Burying is a bad deal, as it is difficult to get away from camp at times as well as often not having soil over a few inches deep. It is probably no worse than putting on a rock as long as you get them WELL away from any camp. Why draw bears at all if you can help it. The important thing is getting them away from any camp.
 
Jackfish
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04/17/2014 05:00PM  
I have never understood the "bury them in the woods" method. Seems so silly when placing the entrails on a rock guarantees that they'll be gone by morning.

I spend all my time in Q, too, so I know that changes things a little rules-wise, but placing them on a rock or in deep water makes such incredible sense to me.
 
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