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Getting to Cache Bay Question

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Date/Time: 05/04/2024 03:19PM

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Getting to Cache Bay Question

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kanoes	03/31/2014 07:14PM i have heard she is very understanding. i wouldnt worry.
carmike	03/31/2014 07:06PM Sorry to change topics, but I'm planning my first-ever entry through Cache Bay later this spring and I am curious about what happens if we do get windbound on the way in. If we are forced to camp on American Point, then we'll obviously not be entering on the day on our permit. If this has happened to anyone, is it OK to enter the day after? It seems like the rangers should be understanding about something like this--about not wanting people to take foolish risks paddling in big waves--but rules are rules, I suppose.
billconner	03/30/2014 02:41PM quote kanoes: "quote billgkna11: "But to go from the US into Canada, you will need a Remote Area Border Crossing permit (RABC), which you can order online." order online? thats news to me. do you fax them a copy of the ID they require?" +1 in person at a very few select Canadian customs offices or, more commonly, by mail. RABC
kanoes	03/30/2014 01:37PM quote billgkna11: "But to go from the US into Canada, you will need a Remote Area Border Crossing permit (RABC), which you can order online." order online? thats news to me. do you fax them a copy of the ID they require?
billconner	03/30/2014 01:00PM If you are in the BWCAW you need a permit. If you're getting a tow to Canada, you tow operator is presumed to have a permit which covers you. No exceptions, only scofflaws.
billgkna11	03/30/2014 10:35AM But to go from the US into Canada, you will need a Remote Area Border Crossing permit (RABC), which you can order online.
kanoes	03/20/2014 08:27PM quote SkiNorth: "If you are just passing through the BWCA to get to Canada you do not need a permit." you do if youre paddling (day permit), you dont if youre getting a tow.
SkiNorth	03/20/2014 08:12PM If you are just passing through the BWCA to get to Canada you do not need a permit. If you are going to be staying overnight in the BWCA you need a permit.
bobbernumber3	03/01/2014 08:26AM quote Kiporby: "If it is very windy, sometimes the outfitters will drop you off on American Point instead of Hook Island because it is too dangerous. This happened to us once a few years ago and we ended up camping on American Point that first night because there was no way we could paddle into Cache Bay with that wind. Janice the ranger understands well how the conditions can get out there, so in these cases they go with "safety first" rather than worry about when and where your permit is for. No, you don't need a BWCA permit since they would be dropping you off in Canadian waters / Hook Island." One year, our tow could not get to Hook Island or American Point due to wind. We were dropped off on a BWCA island campsite with no permit and paddled to Cache Bay the next morning. When conditions are bad, "safety first" is more important than permits.
SunCatcher	03/01/2014 05:45AM I personally took a tow to hook island and paddled over to Cache Bay. Had RABC and Passport, and I would not worry about having a BWCA permit...no one will give two hoots if your actually headed to CACHE bay to head into the Q. SunCatcher
tumblehome	02/26/2014 12:14PM quote Kiporby: "If it is very windy, sometimes the outfitters will drop you off on American Point instead of Hook Island because it is too dangerous. This happened to us once a few years ago and we ended up camping on American Point that first night because there was no way we could paddle into Cache Bay with that wind. " That explains the big campsite on the tip of American point where there is no fire grate. I stopped there last year to take a short break. I couldn't figure out why the place was so well used but had no fire grate. -T
Kiporby	02/26/2014 11:48AM If it is very windy, sometimes the outfitters will drop you off on American Point instead of Hook Island because it is too dangerous. This happened to us once a few years ago and we ended up camping on American Point that first night because there was no way we could paddle into Cache Bay with that wind. Janice the ranger understands well how the conditions can get out there, so in these cases they go with "safety first" rather than worry about when and where your permit is for. No, you don't need a BWCA permit since they would be dropping you off in Canadian waters / Hook Island.
Goby	02/26/2014 08:51AM OK, the outfitter set us up, but I was just looking at the maps. They drop us at hook island, so thats Canada, so I'm covered.
billconner	02/25/2014 06:46PM If you paddle in bwca, you need a permit. In factf, if you are in the bwca at all, you need a permit. If you are on a tow, the tow operator has a bwca permit that covers you.
old_salt	02/25/2014 06:35PM You don't need any special permit for the tow or the paddle to ranger station. Once you get to the ranger station your paperwork will need to be in order to get your Q permit. I've done this several times, and as recently as last summer. Questions still? Call your outfitter.
billconner	02/25/2014 06:23PM Carry a blank day paddle pass as a backup. Too easy.
cowdoc	02/25/2014 06:15PM The tow boat drivers have a CanPass. They take you to Hook to get you to Canada. I believe as long as you tow to there, you do not need a BW permit. They will also have to pick you up there, or you would need a BW permit (entry from Canada) if you paddle back through the US/BW. Tell your outfitter your exact plans and they should inform you as to what you need.
GeoFisher	02/25/2014 05:16PM quote Goby: "We're being dropped off by an outfitter at hook island/american point and then paddling to the ranger station. Do we need a BWCA permit for our paddle over to the ranger station? I realize that most of it is over the border, but still. Or is this one of those grey areas and its ok as long as no one takes advantage sort of thing?" They drop you off at Hook Island so you're already in Canada, therefore not day use permit necessary. If they drop you at American Point, I'm not too sure. Later, Geo
Goby	02/25/2014 04:55PM We're being dropped off by an outfitter at hook island/american point and then paddling to the ranger station. Do we need a BWCA permit for our paddle over to the ranger station? I realize that most of it is over the border, but still. Or is this one of those grey areas and its ok as long as no one takes advantage sort of thing?