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the new ice age

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Date/Time: 05/04/2024 03:51PM

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the new ice age

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arctic	06/21/2014 05:37PM What's really amazing to me is that there has has not been a single month where the worldwide monthly average temperature was below the 20th century average--since 1985!!
WhiteWolf	06/21/2014 09:00AM quote tumblehome: "WW, It's interesting that my city (Duluth) is the coldest below normal anywhere in the world. I didn't need the map to know that since my furnace is on this AM and it's 47' outside. I'm not so good at extrapolating data from those maps. It looks like the northern pole region is cooking." Yeah-- when winters are cold over NA in the regions shown above to the extent they where-- the Arctic is going to be nearly 100% of the time above normal. Just how the patterns work-- however- 3-4C above normal in the Arctic in the winter when avg temps are in the -30C to -35C range is still damn cold. One thing that is common in every one of the above maps and the reason why the winter was so cold in this part of the land and why Alaska and the Arctic was warm is the very warm water in the NE Pacific South of AK and West of the Canadian Coast. This formed a long lasting Low pressure in that area that in turn formed a "ridge" or high pressure to its east in NW Canada. This funneled below normal temps to our region and above normal temps into much of AK and the Arctic.
tumblehome	06/21/2014 08:46AM WW, It's interesting that my city (Duluth) is the coldest below normal anywhere in the world. I didn't need the map to know that since my furnace is on this AM and it's 47' outside. I'm not so good at extrapolating data from those maps. It looks like the northern pole region is cooking.
WhiteWolf	06/21/2014 01:55AM For some reason I can't find a world map that has DEC-FEB,,(Met Winter) so I will list each month worldwide. NA WINTER-- DEC 2013- Worldwide JAN 2014- WOrldwide Feb 2014- Worldwide Year to date- WOrldwide
jeroldharter	06/21/2014 01:13AM You were damaging the environment and interfering with global warming. That ice did not exist. If it did, it was indirect evidence of warmer temperatures.
Ho Ho	06/20/2014 11:00PM I think this is the same ice patch on May 19. We were surprised to see it since it faced southwest. The other places we saw big patches of ice in Quetico (this was the biggest however) also seemed to have water flowing near them. I thought that would make them melt faster, but there may have been a thaw-freeze cycle at work that created melt-resistant ice. PS - The existence of ice in Quetico on May 19 has nothing to do with what's happening on a global scale. Because if you look at the globe, Agnes Lake (though kind of big from a canoer's perspective) is really quite a small part of it.
arctic	06/20/2014 10:16PM quote Eyedocron: "Don't forget that this happened despite "global warming" " Yup, especially since the Upper Midwest was one of the only cold places last winter--everywhere else was abnormally warm...
Eyedocron	06/20/2014 09:59PM Don't forget that this happened despite "global warming"
OldFingers57	06/20/2014 06:27PM Hope your tongue didn't get stuck to that block of ice you had your lips against.
OldFingers57	06/20/2014 02:03PM My wife and I were up hiking on the Superior Hiking Trail at the same time and found several places with ice along the trail or the rivers and streams. This one was along the Gooseberry River just down from Fifth Falls
tumblehome	06/20/2014 12:14PM There's a north cliff on Wine Lake that always hangs on to its ice well after everything else is gone. A steady trickle of water all winter leads to giant icicles that are big and thick enough to melt last. It's always cool to see that stuff late in spring. Tom
WhiteWolf	06/20/2014 11:54AM I think that is the latest into the year I have seen pics on here of people finding snow/ice in the BW/Q. I camped at Trails End that Fri, May 30th. It was 85F when we arrived.
Springer2	06/20/2014 10:21AM When we drove through Duluth May 26 there was a raft of mini-icebergs floating in Lake Superior, and even after several days of temps in the upper 80's on May 30th we discovered this hanging glacier in the east channel of Agnes Lake a few miles north of Louisa Falls. It kept our food cold for a couple extra days and made for some refreshing cocktails as well.