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06/19/2017 02:06PM  
Hi All,

Does anyone know what this is? We found this about 100yards behind our campsite on Good Lake. Looks like it's been here a while and there is no trail nearby.
 
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06/19/2017 02:31PM  
That's really interesting. My first hope was that it was a still but there's no copper a coil. My second thought was a rocket stove, but it doesn't look like a fire has been lit in there.

It looks like parts are PVC plastic, and were those bags/bottles there or did you set them down to take the photo? Any other details?
 
06/19/2017 02:38PM  
The plastic wash bottle and bag were lying next to the unit when we found it.
I was thinking maybe a forest service well of some sort, but there were not any markings on the unit. It is entirely made out of schedule 40 PVC and painted.

It was found approximately 100 yards east into the woods off of the latrine on the eastern-most campsite on Good Lake. There was no distinguishsble trail, we just happened to come across it as we were bushwacking.
 
Hub
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06/19/2017 02:41PM  
It almost looks like a PVC spud cannon, but it wouldn't work with a door.
 
mastertangler
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06/19/2017 02:45PM  
That my friend is a ventilation shaft. If you can find the door you will find 20 years worth of canned peaches.

Never to late to get ready ;-)
 
06/19/2017 02:52PM  
I'm intrigued.
What is a ventilation shaft doing here? Did you already know this existed here?
 
MikeinMpls
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06/19/2017 03:03PM  
quote Skarc75: "I'm intrigued.
What is a ventilation shaft doing here? Did you already know this existed here?"


What is lot of the stuff I find doing there? Someone apparently had a need for a ventilation shaft at some time. I've often been out tripping and said to myself: "man, I wish I had a PVC ventilation shaft right now!" Just kidding with you.

I have a list of BWCA stuff, junk, things, like this. It is a long list, and gets longer every trip I take. There is sooooo much interesting stuff in the woods, much of it old garbage for lack of a better word. I'm sure 99.9% of trippers in the BWCA never venture far enough from camp or a portage to find little goodies in the woods.

Nevertheless, nice find. I will be in that area in a month and I intend to look if the campsite isn't occupied.

Mike
 
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06/19/2017 03:20PM  
Why would you have a door on a ventilation shaft? It looks like someone could of been using it to store food. The campsite I came to in the middle of May looked like it had been used all winter as a camp. Who ever was there really made a mess of the campsite. It could of been used as a winter storage thingy.
Mike
 
06/19/2017 03:24PM  
 
Whatsit
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06/19/2017 03:32PM  
It looks like those bottles would fit nearly perfect in it which again makes me think it's used for some sort of storage thingy
 
06/19/2017 03:38PM  
It looks like an overgrown Philmont sump with a door. Was it capped on top?
 
06/19/2017 04:01PM  
It seems a very odd shape for any type of food storage, and why stand it on end?

The guy lines out and the changing diameter of the pipes make me think it is meant to have air flow of some kind. Not messy enough to be a meth lab. How about an illegal back woods fish smoker? Fish hang in the top, sterno with wood chips below, and it all cooks overnight away from the tent??
 
06/19/2017 04:31PM  
Hmmm... I like that theory. I could definitely see that.
That wash bottle still throws me off. It's typically used for analytical water testing.
 
Whatsit
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06/19/2017 04:34PM  
quote Jaywalker: "It seems a very odd shape for any type of food storage, and why stand it on end?


The guy lines out and the changing diameter of the pipes make me think it is meant to have air flow of some kind. Not messy enough to be a meth lab. How about an illegal back woods fish smoker? Fish hang in the top, sterno with wood chips below, and it all cooks overnight away from the tent??"

I don't know, just a crazy vent pipe with a door in my opinion. But what do I know
 
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06/19/2017 04:37PM  
Looks to me like a monitoring well. Do you know how deep it went?
 
06/19/2017 05:11PM  
Yes it could be used to monitor the rate water absorbs into the soil or something. A scientific instrument could have been housed behind the trap door. Geotechnical or something.

I believe there is a large underground mine proposed in the area but that is south of there outside the BWCA and most likely doesn't have anything to do with this device.

It looks like a large marijuana bong too.

It's very intriguing. Thanks for posting.
 
06/19/2017 05:31PM  
Biologist's bug collector? How deep was it? Very strange. When "ventilation pipe" was brought up I instantly pictured someone buried underground with that piping in air. haha Wow...vivid imagination.

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06/19/2017 05:40PM  
When I heard ventilation tube I thought of how hostages are sometimes kept buried underground in remote places like that school bus full of children in California years ago. Who knows, maybe Jimmy Hoffa is under there living on pasta and water.
 
Grandma L
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06/19/2017 05:48PM  
Are you sharing this "find" with the Forest Service? they might be interested.

Yup, the shortage of rangers is producing some strang things and some damaged sites!
 
06/19/2017 06:02PM  
I actually did email the info to the Kawishwi Ranger Station along with pictures.
Let's see if they get back to me with a response!

i really wish I spent more time and gathered more details. (The mosquitos were horrendous back there). I did not check the depth or try to move any parts around.
I was kinda thinking someone on here would know exactly what this is!
 
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06/19/2017 06:46PM  
I've seen 2 of these up there. Can't remember which lakes. Always felt that they were some sort of old/forgotten science experiment. No idea what they were monitoring/collecting.
 
06/19/2017 07:48PM  
It's a mosquito trap. Open the door and load the reservoir with brewers yeast, water and sugar. Close the door and seal it. The yeast begins making CO2 which attracts the Mosquitoes. The fly down through the top into the liquid where they meet their demise.

Don't laugh. It's as good as any of your lame ideas. LOL.

Terry
 
drrick
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06/19/2017 07:58PM  
Did you see any cameras in the trees monitoring this object?
 
Alan Gage
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06/19/2017 08:08PM  
Venting an old latrine site? Access door to monitor how quickly things are breaking down?

Alan
 
06/19/2017 08:21PM  
If it was on "High Lake", I would take a wild guess that is a giant bong.

Tomster
 
06/19/2017 08:24PM  
quote quark2222: "If it was on "High Lake", I would take a wild guess that is a giant bong.


Tomster"


I'm going to feel really stupid if I find out this is just a huge bong....
 
06/19/2017 09:37PM  
quote BSW: "Biologist's bug collector? How deep was it? Very strange. When "ventilation pipe" was brought up I instantly pictured someone buried underground with that piping in air. haha Wow...vivid imagination.
~"


It does look like some of the images that pop up when one types in Aphid Suction Trap into google images.
 
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06/19/2017 10:31PM  
If the Kawishiwi Ranger District doesn't get back to you, try contacting the Forest Supervisor's Office ("SO") in Duluth - if it's a piece of scientific equipment deployed in the wilderness, the researchers would need a permit, but that's typically handled by the SO, not the district.
 
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06/20/2017 07:13AM  
I'm with some of the others who think it is some sort of device to trap insects in for a study. As they would be attracted to come in from the top and the collection jar or bottle would be down where the door on the side is. Although I don't understand it being so tall though from the bottle up to the top.
 
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06/20/2017 08:31AM  
I just have to say I'm amazed that nobody has identified exactly what that is...me included obviously, I have no idea. I just know I am typically amazed at the breadth of knowledge around here and figured someone would have identified it almost immediately, if not personally installed it!

the mystery continues....
 
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06/20/2017 10:25AM  
Remote bank drive through teller.
 
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06/20/2017 01:42PM  
Tiny cell tower
 
06/20/2017 02:14PM  
I certainly like the idea of the mosquito trap station. I also liked Ellahallely's idea of a well monitoring station, but was troubled with two things: (A) why would anyone want to monitor ground/well water there? and (B) how and when would they have brought in the equipment to drill? Would there be any reason for an old well on that lake? As a variant on the well idea, maybe its a station to collect data on the gases rising from an old latrine? From time to time hang a mini-gas chromatograph thingy in there and take readings to see how the old "contents" are changing?
 
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06/20/2017 04:17PM  
So far, my money is on it being some sort of suction trap for some sort of entomological study.
 
06/20/2017 07:32PM  
doesn't someone have an app for their extremely smart phone... post the photo in the app and, BAM, the answer pops up?
 
marsonite
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06/21/2017 07:05AM  
If it is some sort of scientific sample collecting device (my vote), it's funny it was never removed. Maybe they lost one, or quit grad school, or something?

The other funny thing is why locate it behind a campsite. Wouldn't you want it where the public wouldn't be stumbling on it?

I'm very curious. Hopefully someone comes along and tells us what it is.
 
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06/21/2017 07:42AM  
Start digging and see what's underneath - a vent for a gold mine!
 
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06/21/2017 08:16AM  
Neat find and thanks for posting! I don't know what it is, but sure am curious.
Was it set on the ground? (with some guide rope?) as it appears or was it dug into the ground or affixed to the ground at all? If it were any legit study it would be labeled and likely not a DIY/homemade contraption. What is on the top? cork/foam filter/plug?
 
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06/21/2017 11:27AM  
quote Skarc75: "Hi All,

Does anyone know what this is? We found this about 100yards behind our campsite on Good Lake. Looks like it's been here a while and there is no trail nearby. "
 
06/21/2017 02:39PM  
My first reaction was Mosquito Trap...but not sure.
 
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06/21/2017 03:00PM  
it's a dew/rain catcher
 
06/21/2017 03:38PM  
killing the ongoing quote. I return you to your regularly formatted canoe board.
 
06/21/2017 05:20PM  
quote aholmgren: "Neat find and thanks for posting! I don't know what it is, but sure am curious.
Was it set on the ground? (with some guide rope?) as it appears or was it dug into the ground or affixed to the ground at all? If it were any legit study it would be labeled and likely not a DIY/homemade contraption. What is on the top? cork/foam filter/plug?"


I feel dumb for saying this, but I guess I never even checked to see whether the shaft runs below grade or not...
I did check for any markings, as I thought if this were a study of some sort, there would most-likely be a forest service emblem or something. But there were no markings. I found it odd that they would just leave a bag and bottle lying on the ground nearby if this were a sanctioned study...

The top had some sort of plastic funnel.

I did contact the forest service and they have indicated that they are looking into it and will respond back... I will update if they get back to me.
 
06/21/2017 05:46PM  
Bear bait contraption?
Or some other animal?
 
06/21/2017 06:36PM  
A prepper's ventilation pipe that provides air for an underground bunker, filled with food, guns and ammo. You'd be rich had you done a little digging. ;-)
 
06/21/2017 08:40PM  
It may be a little far fetched but this could be the secret location where the inner baffle of the Minnesota Vikings Horn is being repaired. It's a large nordic horn that blows when the Vikings make great plays or their opponents bungle and this device could be part of it! I know the horn got a workout in 2016 when the team had a 5 game winning streak before it broke. Also BassPro69 announced he was "Heading to the Gunflint Batman" a few weeks ago which could be a secret code and he is involved with the project.........or just a coincidence.

Whatever the object is I haven't been in this much suspense since we waited to find out who shot J.R.!
 
06/22/2017 06:24AM  
quote Oisinirish: "Bear bait contraption?
Or some other animal?"

Some kind of disguised bear bait station was also the first thing that came to my mind.
 
MikeinMpls
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06/22/2017 08:35AM  
I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.

How's that sound?

Mike
 
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06/22/2017 09:38AM  
I'm very curious. Looking forward to learning more about this one...
 
06/22/2017 09:43AM  
quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.


How's that sound?


Mike"


If it's buried treasure, we split the proceeds?!
 
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06/22/2017 11:40AM  
Maybe a corn feeder for deer? Illegal and lazy, if so..
 
06/22/2017 12:42PM  
quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.


How's that sound?


Mike"


It occurs to me that this might be an entrance to the Black Lodge, so be careful. You don't happen to only have one arm, do you?

Daniel
 
MikeinMpls
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06/22/2017 02:24PM  
quote dew042: "
quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.



How's that sound?



Mike"



It occurs to me that this might be an entrance to the Black Lodge, so be careful. You don't happen to only have one arm, do you?


Daniel"


I have two arms.

Mike
 
MikeinMpls
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06/22/2017 02:25PM  
quote Skarc75: "
quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.



How's that sound?



Mike"



If it's buried treasure, we split the proceeds?!"


OK, though I don't know how much digging I'll be doing. I've been finding and snooping stuff in the BWCA for a long time. This will be another challenge.

Mike
 
06/30/2017 12:40PM  
UPDATE:

Well... Minor update:

The Superior Nat. Forest Headquarters Office in Duluth got back to me today. They are puzzled as to what this is.
They have forwarded the pictures and location to Superior National Forest Law Enforcement.

I expect they will be paddling to Good Lake this weekend - sirens blaring. :)
 
CrookedPaddler1
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06/30/2017 02:10PM  
I will throw in my 2 cents. It is a bear baiting contraption. put a small stove or can of Sterno in the bottom, with small pot of honey or maple syrup. Close the door and let it simmer. The tubes would cause the scent to go up and disperse better than if it were just simmering on the ground!
 
Grandma L
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06/30/2017 03:26PM  
We will be watching for the official answer.
Could it be a fish smoker?
 
DrBobDg
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06/30/2017 07:54PM  
The plot thickens..............


dr bob
 
marsonite
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06/30/2017 08:20PM  
quote Grandma L: "We will be watching for the official answer.
Could it be a fish smoker?"


I thought of that, but made out of PVC? And what's with the guy lines. And why paint it camo? Really strange.
 
06/30/2017 08:25PM  
It's a bank drive through deposit thing. I'm glad to know it's there. I' m expecting a check during my trip and didn't know what to do with it.
 
Motox3802
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06/30/2017 08:57PM  
I thought maybe was somthing to store drugs in,
But if it's open on top that wouldn't make sense.
I'm sure there's stuff coming from Canada into Mn thru Bwca
And reverse, hard to get caught.
I once found stash of about 4 dozen brand new mason jars stashed
In woods near an entry point. But never heard back from law enforcement.
 
offroadjeeper
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07/02/2017 05:06PM  
quote Motox3802: "I thought maybe was somthing to store drugs in,
But if it's open on top that wouldn't make sense.
I'm sure there's stuff coming from Canada into Mn thru Bwca
And reverse, hard to get caught.
I once found stash of about 4 dozen brand new mason jars stashed
In woods near an entry point. But never heard back from law enforcement.
"
Just empty mason jars, nothing in them?
 
motox380
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07/02/2017 07:51PM  
Yes, jars empty still in packaging.
They were stashed with some other camping things.

 
Moss Tent
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07/02/2017 08:02PM  
My first question was, what were you doing a full 100 yards behind your campsite where there are no trails nearby? That's a long way in the bush.

How about a rainwater collection apparatus? That would account for the funnel on top, and the guy wires to keep it oriented vertically. Tube is to secure and stabilize the collection vessel and minimize evaporation. Contraption is large due to extended study period or anticipated heavy rain events.
 
Moss Tent
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07/02/2017 08:06PM  
And paint coat would be to minimize visual intrusion into natural landscape as a condition of study approval.
 
Savage Voyageur
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07/02/2017 09:48PM  
Looks like one of those new remote marijuana dispensing stations the state is testing.
 
07/02/2017 10:10PM  
quote Moss Tent: "My first question was, what were you doing a full 100 yards behind your campsite where there are no trails nearby? That's a long way in the bush.


How about a rainwater collection apparatus? That would account for the funnel on top, and the guy wires to keep it oriented vertically. Tube is to secure and stabilize the collection vessel and minimize evaporation. Contraption is large due to extended study period or anticipated heavy rain events."


I really like to explore when I get the chance. I don't typically wander too far, however, this area makes for fairly easy walking through the woods and I keep my gps handy.
 
offroadjeeper
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07/02/2017 10:17PM  
I did a little exploring last week on our island site. I had noticed a wooden post with a reflector on it from our boat the day before. The reflector was stamped USFS 1968 I think. 2 ft from that was a 3.5 inch round metal pipe (like a water pipe) sticking out of the ground, about 4-5in above ground with a cap on it. The pipe was maybe 10ft from the shore line. The cap had the same date on it as did the post. I think it Read something along the lines of USFS CADASTRAL SURVEY 1968. Forgot my camera when I went exploring so no pics unfortunately. Definitely can find some interesting things if you look. I'm completely stumped at what you stumbled upon though.
 
gymcoachdon
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07/03/2017 09:58AM  
My initial thought was insect trap. A quick google search found this:


Looks similar enough for me!
 
07/03/2017 02:24PM  
quote gymcoachdon: "My initial thought was insect trap. A quick google search found this:



Looks similar enough for me!"


Party pooper. Lol.
 
07/03/2017 05:21PM  
quote gymcoachdon: "My initial thought was insect trap. A quick google search found this:



Looks similar enough for me!"


Still skeptical. Those traps appear to require a fan and electricity, and ours doesn't have a gasket on the door - hence the bugs could just get out on the edges of the door.

My money is still on Aliens.

Daniel
 
Atb
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07/03/2017 06:56PM  
Does it happen to have this logo on it:

 
gymcoachdon
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07/03/2017 08:23PM  
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:


"


Now I'm just totally Lost...
 
gymcoachdon
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07/03/2017 08:23PM  
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:


"


Now I'm just totally Lost...
 
Atb
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07/03/2017 10:14PM  
quote gymcoachdon: "
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:



"



Now I'm just totally Lost..."



Exactly:)
 
MikeinMpls
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07/04/2017 10:41AM  
quote offroadjeeper: "I did a little exploring last week on our island site. I had noticed a wooden post with a reflector on it from our boat the day before. The reflector was stamped USFS 1968 I think. 2 ft from that was a 3.5 inch round metal pipe (like a water pipe) sticking out of the ground, about 4-5in above ground with a cap on it. The pipe was maybe 10ft from the shore line. The cap had the same date on it as did the post. I think it Read something along the lines of USFS CADASTRAL SURVEY 1968. Forgot my camera when I went exploring so no pics unfortunately. Definitely can find some interesting things if you look. I'm completely stumped at what you stumbled upon though. "


The woods are a gold mine of junk and stuff, much of it historical (meaning older, but still junk). Most people miss it because you often have to wander off and bushwhack a bit.

Mike
 
MikeinMpls
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07/04/2017 10:45AM  
quote Skarc75: "UPDATE:


Well... Minor update:


The Superior Nat. Forest Headquarters Office in Duluth got back to me today. They are puzzled as to what this is.
They have forwarded the pictures and location to Superior National Forest Law Enforcement.


I expect they will be paddling to Good Lake this weekend - sirens blaring. :)"


If the cops are going to investigate, I will bet they are going to either take in with them or dismantle it. I'll still look for it in a couple of weeks, but if you or anyone else hears more, please let me know, as I don't much want to look for something that isn't there anymore.

Mike
 
07/05/2017 10:23AM  
LOL, I immediately thought the same thing when I read the first post. Is there someone in there punching in numbers? 4...8...15....16....23....42....

JD
 
07/05/2017 06:43PM  
I'm sticking with "The Big Bong Theory".

Tomster
 
PuffinGin
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07/06/2017 08:43AM  
quote Skarc75: "UPDATE:

I expect they will be paddling to Good Lake this weekend - sirens blaring. :)"


Gee, I would sincerely hope not w/ sirens blaring, Skarc75. ;)
 
07/06/2017 09:57AM  
quote gymcoachdon: "
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:

"


Now I'm just totally Lost..."

By any chance are you confusing Dharma, the Hindu/Buddhist teachings related to cosmic order, with DARPA, the secretive US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency?
 
07/06/2017 10:51AM  
quote Jaywalker: "
quote gymcoachdon: "
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:


"



Now I'm just totally Lost..."

By any chance are you confusing Dharma, the Hindu/Buddhist teachings related to cosmic order, with DARPA, the secretive US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency?"


Pretty sure its DHARMA is referencing the TV show Lost, ripe with conspiracy and a secretive fringe science organization. They have a underground bunker, hence the reference to a ventilation stack.

Daniel
 
SaganagaJoe
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07/06/2017 11:00AM  
quote quark2222: "I'm sticking with "The Big Bong Theory".


Tomster"


LOL
 
billconner
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07/06/2017 12:42PM  
quote SaganagaJoe: "
quote quark2222: "I'm sticking with "The Big Bong Theory".



Tomster"



LOL"


I agree. As a child of the 60's this is a simple, easy, and obvious answer.
 
07/06/2017 12:42PM  
quote dew042: "
quote Jaywalker: "
quote gymcoachdon: "
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:

"


Now I'm just totally Lost..."

By any chance are you confusing Dharma, the Hindu/Buddhist teachings related to cosmic order, with DARPA, the secretive US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency?"


Pretty sure its DHARMA is referencing the TV show Lost, ripe with conspiracy and a secretive fringe science organization. They have a underground bunker, hence the reference to a ventilation stack.

Daniel"

Ah, I stand corrected! I never watched the show so missed the reference.
 
07/06/2017 01:11PM  
Obviously, a bong for the Border Patrol. With ZERO action in roadless areas along the northern border, agents have found an alternative way to spend their time...

I would suspect that some Forest Service folks spend time there, too, considering they never seem to catch folks trashing campsites.
 
The Great Outdoors
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07/06/2017 06:35PM  
Just talked to a friend of mine that worker for the Forest Service for about 40 years and here is what he had to say about said contraption:

Looks like part of an old weather station. This would be part of the precipitation gauge. Most likely it's metal not PVC.
The rain gauge on top would automatically dump when it filled and the information would be recorded on a paper scroll kept on an instrument inside the door. It would also record temp. and barometric pressure. You would wind up the old ones and they could run a couple of weeks or more. The info. was graphed with pens. The new ones have solar panels and data recorders.
Research may have put it out there and whoever was doing the study didn't go and get it and nobody remembered it was out there. The expensive, delicate stuff seems to be gone.

And now we know the rest of the story!!!
 
07/06/2017 07:49PM  
That sounds like a good explanation to me.
Now that we know what it used to be, it can be converted into a bong and filled with Northern Lights.
 
07/06/2017 10:25PM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "Most likely it's metal not PVC."


The OP did say it was entirely made out of schedule 40 PVC and painted..... Just sayin'
 
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07/07/2017 04:00AM  
And the FS employee said it is MOST LIKELY (but not definitely) made of metal.............just sayin' :)
 
07/07/2017 08:16PM  
quote The Great Outdoors: "Just talked to a friend of mine that worker for the Forest Service for about 40 years and here is what he had to say about said contraption:


Looks like part of an old weather station. This would be part of the precipitation gauge. Most likely it's metal not PVC.
The rain gauge on top would automatically dump when it filled and the information would be recorded on a paper scroll kept on an instrument inside the door. It would also record temp. and barometric pressure. You would wind up the old ones and they could run a couple of weeks or more. The info. was graphed with pens. The new ones have solar panels and data recorders.
Research may have put it out there and whoever was doing the study didn't go and get it and nobody remembered it was out there. The expensive, delicate stuff seems to be gone.


And now we know the rest of the story!!!"


This 28 year Forest firefighter is not buying the above explanation.
Not saying the above is incorrect, I'm just scratching my head with the explanation.

What was described above, sounds to me like a Thermo-hygrograph.
I used these many times as late as the 1996, and kept one on my desk as a museum piece when I worked for the USFS out of Isabella in the early 2,000's.

You would wind them up and they would graph out the temperature and humidity on a scroll for at least a week.
We used a Rain guage away from the Thermo-hygrograph to capture perticipation.
We would use this information to guage when conditions were compatible to conduct fire operations.

Temp and Humidity information need to be gathered 4.5 feet above ground, to be accurate. (Same as where the National Weather Service gathers their info) this contraption is not capable of that, which is why I am suspicious of the explanation.

I have only been in the buisness for 28 years not 40, and will give the benefit of the doubt to your Ranger friend.

Thermo-hygrograph
 
muddyfeet
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07/17/2017 11:44PM  
quote mirth: "
killing the ongoing quote. I return you to your regularly formatted canoe board."

How did you do that? I encounter this quite a bit here.
 
MikeinMpls
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07/18/2017 09:42AM  
I'm going in at Wood Lake on Saturday and I plan on exploring this on Sunday or Monday. Does anyone know if this thing is still there? I am wondering if the USFS took it away.

Mike
 
07/18/2017 11:52AM  
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quote muddyfeet: "
quote mirth: "
killing the ongoing quote. I return you to your regularly formatted canoe board."

How did you do that? I encounter this quite a bit here.
"


I know you emailed me, but for the sake of everybody else.... when quoting another person's post it get's "encapsulated" within the "< quote >" tag which ends with "< /quote >". I broke the formatting here so the board software wouldn't read them and try to execute it as code. In real life there aren't any quotation marks or spaces between the to kill the ongoing nonsense.


That being said - Mike I'd be curious to see if its still there too. My guess is it probably is... USFS has bigger things to do than investigate random hardware in the woods. :)
 
07/18/2017 03:02PM  
MikeinMpls -

The forest service has not gotten back to me. My directions were fairly vague, so I highly doubt they've removed it...

The best direction I can give you is that I found this about 100 yards Northeast of campsite 2048. Break east off of the latrine path, and you're in range. It does not stick out, and you have to be almost on top of it to notice it.
 
07/18/2017 03:41PM  
They probably won't get to it. Years ago I informed them about a really bad infestation of invasive tansy on an island campsite in Disappointment Lake. THE USFS said they would take care of it. Two years later it was still there.

 
firemedic5586
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08/08/2017 02:17AM  
Tag for outcome.
 
The Great Outdoors
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08/08/2017 05:13AM  
quote LindenTree3: "
quote The Great Outdoors: "Just talked to a friend of mine that worker for the Forest Service for about 40 years and here is what he had to say about said contraption:



Looks like part of an old weather station. This would be part of the precipitation gauge. Most likely it's metal not PVC.
The rain gauge on top would automatically dump when it filled and the information would be recorded on a paper scroll kept on an instrument inside the door. It would also record temp. and barometric pressure. You would wind up the old ones and they could run a couple of weeks or more. The info. was graphed with pens. The new ones have solar panels and data recorders.
Research may have put it out there and whoever was doing the study didn't go and get it and nobody remembered it was out there. The expensive, delicate stuff seems to be gone.



And now we know the rest of the story!!!"



This 28 year Forest firefighter is not buying the above explanation.
Not saying the above is incorrect, I'm just scratching my head with the explanation.


What was described above, sounds to me like a Thermo-hygrograph.
I used these many times as late as the 1996, and kept one on my desk as a museum piece when I worked for the USFS out of Isabella in the early 2,000's.


You would wind them up and they would graph out the temperature and humidity on a scroll for at least a week.
We used a Rain guage away from the Thermo-hygrograph to capture perticipation.
We would use this information to guage when conditions were compatible to conduct fire operations.


Temp and Humidity information need to be gathered 4.5 feet above ground, to be accurate. (Same as where the National Weather Service gathers their info) this contraption is not capable of that, which is why I am suspicious of the explanation.


I have only been in the buisness for 28 years not 40, and will give the benefit of the doubt to your Ranger friend.


Thermo-hygrograph "


That's exactly what I said above, maybe not with as much clarity as needed. You echoed the conversation I had with him!!
 
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08/08/2017 03:17PM  
It's painted to be camouflaged. Most likely built somewhere else and transported in vs. carrying in the tools and supplies to build it. With the guy wires it was obviously intended to be there for a while. The various sizes of PVC and the various fittings must play a significant role otherwise they would have just used a single piece of PVC pipe and capped it off. If it's 100 yards off the latrine trail, it's meant to be hidden.
 
BuckFlicks
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08/08/2017 04:14PM  
quote Alan Gage: "Venting an old latrine site? Access door to monitor how quickly things are breaking down?


Alan"


This was my thought.
 
BuckFlicks
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08/08/2017 04:21PM  
quote gymcoachdon: "
quote Atb: "Does it happen to have this logo on it:



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Now I'm just totally Lost..."


So were the show runners the last three seasons.

The show was a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
timf1981
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08/10/2017 11:36PM  
You LOST me
 
timf1981
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08/10/2017 11:36PM  
Air shaft for underground science station on "LOST.

Or a part of SkyLab.
If you are younger than 50. You are probably thinking . What is SkyLab:)
 
08/11/2017 01:55PM  
quote dew042: "
quote MikeinMpls: "I'll be in the area in a month. I'll get to the bottom of the mystery. I will report my findings.



How's that sound?



Mike"



It occurs to me that this might be an entrance to the Black Lodge, so be careful. You don't happen to only have one arm, do you?


Daniel"


Awesome Twin Peaks reference! Are you enjoying the new season? It's not really the same old Twin Peaks but in my opinion David Lynch shits gold so I've been loving it
 
08/11/2017 03:05PM  
quote NoahDaBoa:
Awesome Twin Peaks reference! Are you enjoying the new season? It's not really the same old Twin Peaks but in my opinion David Lynch shits gold so I've been loving it"


Very much enjoying it, although frequently I wonder if David Lynch is messing with us on some scenes. The Audrey stuff, so far, for example.

Very pleased its standing on its own. Artistically and intellectually challenging, not just a nostalgia-fest. Some of the best characters are out, or passed, I miss Catherine & Pete Martell and the original Sheriff Truman.

Daniel
 
firemedic5586
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08/11/2017 03:27PM  
Could it be a Henway by chance?
 
08/11/2017 04:03PM  
What's a Henway?? ;)
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I used to paddle crooked, but now I'm a straight man...
 
BuckFlicks
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08/11/2017 04:12PM  
quote timf1981: "Air shaft for underground science station on "LOST.


Or a part of SkyLab.
If you are younger than 50. You are probably thinking . What is SkyLab:)"


I'm 47... I remember the summer Skylab fell to earth, it seems like that was all that was in the news the whole summer. I was visiting my grandmother in Colorado and she wouldn't let me play outside for a couple days. They lived on a mountain with a good deal of land and I loved just being outside at their house ... I was going stir crazy.
 
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