I hate using spoons. It seems that they always give my line twist. I have tried nearly all swivles and still get line twist.

What am I doing wrong?

Have you tried good quality ball bearing swivels?

quote KerryG: "Have you tried good quality ball bearing swivels?"

yup. I bought the most expensive ones that I could find. Still twisted bad...

Have you tried a titanium leader that has a quality ball bearing swivel? I can't remember having trouble with this set up.

i've used just averaged priced leaders , never had an issue with line twist , on spoons.

Question for you, do you have a store wind your line on your reels or do you do wind your own line on? I ask this because when I first start winding on the line it is all twisted up, I then flip the full spool and then the twist is gone. It (might) be that you or the store wound the line wrong so it is twisting.

quote Savage Voyageur: "Question for you, do you have a store wind your line on your reels or do you do wind your own line on? I ask this because when I first start winding on the line it is all twisted up, I then flip the full spool and then the twist is gone. It (might) be that you or the store wound the line wrong so it is twisting. "

My first thought also

quote AmarilloJim: "

quote Savage Voyageur: "Question for you, do you have a store wind your line on your reels or do you do wind your own line on? I ask this because when I first start winding on the line it is all twisted up, I then flip the full spool and then the twist is gone. It (might) be that you or the store wound the line wrong so it is twisting. "

My first thought also"

yes. for years, every once in a while i'd have twist problems after re-spooling and didn't know why, until learning that a spinning reel requires that the line be loaded onto the reel the same way it comes off the spool. this may or may not be the prob. first 1/2 of the vid covers it.
Spooling a Spinning Reel

Try using a line with less memory. Some lines get really twisty. If you fish with mono, try XL. Extra limp is usually a bad thing but not with fishing line. Also, try trolling a bit slower and you should not get as much line twist. It's been my experience that fish are more willing to bite spoons that are moving slowly.

^^^ +1 a little off the O.P. many different spoons on the market besides the traditional dare devil , each spoon wobbles a little different at different speeds, i like to see it close to me in the water whether its casting or trolling and see how that particular spoon reacts , a good example is the krocadile spoons , they need a little faster retrieve/troll to get the wobble going.

Question for ya, are you catching fish on those spoons?

Reason I ask is if your drag is set light enough that when fighting a fish your spool is spinning as you're reeling it will cause a lot of line twist.

I've had reels that are extra-twisty; it could be that.
You could also try two swivels 18" apart. That sometimes works.

quote MrFeesh: "Question for ya, are you catching fish on those spoons?


Reason I ask is if your drag is set light enough that when fighting a fish your spool is spinning as you're reeling it will cause a lot of line twist."

Excellent point and often unobserved by the casual angler. Line cannot go out and in at the same time. Massive line twist is the result and eventual tangles and broken lines.

Along the same idea get used to closing your bail on spinning equipment by hand. You put a 1/4 line twist every time you close the bail via the handle.

But back to spoons.......I love fishing spoons especially on the shield. They are not utilized enough IMO. If you REALLY want to eliminate line twist then employ 2 ball bearing swivels. One with a snap to the spoon and a barrel, again ball bearing,

A few thoughts concerning the material between.........pike of course like spoons and if they are likely to be encountered you could make your own leaders via knot-2-Kinky leader material in lighter lb tests for typical smaller spoons but bump the lb test if larger spoons are used.

If using mono or fluorocarbon between snap swivel and barrel swivel keep in mind the amount of force required to set the hook. There will be very little in the way of shock absorbing stretch so you may need to go a bit heavier on the lb test particularly with larger treble hooks. If you want finesse then upgrade the trebles to black nickel (very sharp) or use a single siwash salmon hook which requires less force to set.

Do not be afraid of the visibility of the additional barrel swivel. The resemblance of a small fish (your spoon) chasing its own meal (your barrel swivel) will help provoke a strike.

Lastly do not use tiny terminal equipment. Spoons need freedom to operate.

Maybe try using a braided line?

I used braid and tie on a flouro leader and use a spro snap swivel at the lure. Never had a problem.

quote Mad_Angler: "I hate using spoons. It seems that they always give my line twist. I have tried nearly all swivles and still get line twist.

What am I doing wrong?"

Spoons are meant to wobble, each spoon wobbles at different retrieve or trolling speeds, Typically, if one exceeds the "wobble speed" the wobble turns into a spin. The spinning action will cause line twist, wobble action will not.

Best solution is to not exceed the "wobble speed" for any particular spoon. If you wish to troll at a faster speed select a soon which has a faster "wobble speed". Only trial and error will revel the best speed for any one spoon. It does seem that the wider spoons like a slower speed and the narrow spoons will tolerate a faster speed.

As above....slow down, the wobble is what you want, not the roundly-round stuff.

Missed before but MT is absolutely correct with reeling. I see people do this all the time; reeling while line is going out. It will destroy line quickly.

quote bassnet: "As above....slow down, the wobble is what you want, not the roundly-round stuff."

+1 spoons are generally a cold water presentation , meaning slower than faster , but does produce around the year in right conditions. bigger little cleos --dare devils--doctors-krocadiles all, have a different speed/retrieve that makes them work/produce. i've modified mine.

quote mastertangler:

Along the same idea get used to closing your bail on spinning equipment by hand. You put a 1/4 line twist every time you close the bail via the handle.

Extremely important point !

If you are using a high quality swivel and you're still getting line twist it's a good bet your line is wound onto the reel incorrectly. The best way to check this is when your first winding line onto your reel ,after a few revolutions, open your bail, if it comes off twisted turn the spool of line over and then continue winding it on.

quote bassnet: "As above....slow down, the wobble is what you want, not the roundly-round stuff."

+1