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04/25/2023 12:17PM
nooneuno: "My grandfather used to say when I die I hope they bury my wife with me, too bad I wont be able to see her face or hear her scream as you throw her in the hole."
That comment kinda leaves me speechless. Some memories are worth forgetting, IMO.
04/27/2023 12:29PM
I hadn't thought about taking anything BW/Q to the grave. Interesting thought, though.
As it stands today (and I'm hoping this doesn't play out for a good 25 years or more), my wife and I both plan on traditional funerals, followed by cremation and burial in the days after the service.
Being cremated makes it pretty tough to be buried with a paddle (for example). Maybe a Tilley hat, map or favorite fishing lure, but it would need to be fairly small to go through the cremation process and fit in the urn.
I've always thought that my son or my buddies could take a trip at some point in the future and deposit a small amount of my cremated remains in a favorite Quetico lake.
As it stands today (and I'm hoping this doesn't play out for a good 25 years or more), my wife and I both plan on traditional funerals, followed by cremation and burial in the days after the service.
Being cremated makes it pretty tough to be buried with a paddle (for example). Maybe a Tilley hat, map or favorite fishing lure, but it would need to be fairly small to go through the cremation process and fit in the urn.
I've always thought that my son or my buddies could take a trip at some point in the future and deposit a small amount of my cremated remains in a favorite Quetico lake.
"Keep close to Nature's heart, yourself; and break clear away, once in a while, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean." ~ John Muir
04/27/2023 03:34PM
I remember at the funeral of my wife's uncle Sigurd, one of the last things all the mourners did was throw a bobber into the grave with his casket. Tight lines, uncle Sig!
"Said one of these men, long past seventy years of age: 'I could carry, paddle, walk and sing with any man I ever saw. I have been twenty-four years a canoe man, and forty-one years in service; no portage was ever too long for me. Fifty songs could I sing. I have saved the lives of ten voyageurs. Have had twelve wives and six running dogs. I spent all my money in pleasure. Were I young again, I should spend my life the same way over. There is no life so happy as a voyageur's life!'"
04/27/2023 04:12PM
I've recently changed my mind regarding cremation and want to have a green burial. No embalming fluids, no casket, no concrete vault, no cremation gases.
My generation hasn't done enough to ensure the future for following generations.
My generation hasn't done enough to ensure the future for following generations.
04/27/2023 06:51PM
The idea that a dead person takes up a plot of land, seems selfish to me. Within a few generations, no one cares anymore, but that deceased person is still taking up that space. If the space is never recycled, eventually the entire earth is taken up by grave sites.
As the population continues to grow, tillable land is going to become more scarce. Perhaps they could at least plant strawberries, or blueberries over the grave sites, or trees or something.
I hate the idea of being buried in something that will take a 100 years to biodegrade if ever. Cremate me and bury my ashes somewhere near my favorite bwca spot.
But my wife says she won't do that. She wants to be able to visit me, and doesn't want me that far away.
As the population continues to grow, tillable land is going to become more scarce. Perhaps they could at least plant strawberries, or blueberries over the grave sites, or trees or something.
I hate the idea of being buried in something that will take a 100 years to biodegrade if ever. Cremate me and bury my ashes somewhere near my favorite bwca spot.
But my wife says she won't do that. She wants to be able to visit me, and doesn't want me that far away.
04/28/2023 12:36AM
analyzer: "As the population continues to grow, tillable land is going to become more scarce. Perhaps they could at least plant strawberries, or blueberries over the grave sites, or trees or something"
I wouldn't worry about that. Do you know there are more golf courses in the USA than there are McDonalds (and I like golf). At least something will grow over my grave.
I wouldn't object, though, to just being tossed into the woods. I have visited open graves in Quetico.
As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly
04/28/2023 06:35AM
analyzer: "I hate the idea of being buried in something that will take a 100 years to biodegrade if ever. Cremate me and bury my ashes somewhere near my favorite bwca spot. "
I, too, hate that idea, but technology has come a long way. Now they can cremate you and infuse your ashes with a tree seed. I wonder if it would be legal to plant that seed in the BW? As long as its a native species, of course.
-Dee
04/28/2023 07:44AM
Cremation emits a lot of harmful emissions... combustion gases, particulate matter, organic pollutants, and heavy metals. And possibly radioactive particles from cremation of deceased patients who have been treated with radioactive substances (e.g., cancer treatments).
Compost me, please. And I like the idea of strawberry plants!
Compost me, please. And I like the idea of strawberry plants!
04/28/2023 05:59PM
bobbernumber3: "I've recently changed my mind regarding cremation and want to have a green burial. No embalming fluids, no casket, no concrete vault, no cremation gases.
My generation hasn't done enough to ensure the future for following generations."
probably not legal in most states
04/28/2023 06:32PM
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While natural burial is legal throughout the United States, specific requirements vary from state to state. For example, some states restrict natural burial to established cemeteries, while others allow it on private land, so long as the site complies with certain regulations and ordinances.
Goggle natural burial services . It is more common than you think.
ockycamper: "bobbernumber3: "I've recently changed my mind regarding cremation and want to have a green burial. No embalming fluids, no casket, no concrete vault, no cremation gases.
My generation hasn't done enough to ensure the future for following generations."
probably not legal in most states"
While natural burial is legal throughout the United States, specific requirements vary from state to state. For example, some states restrict natural burial to established cemeteries, while others allow it on private land, so long as the site complies with certain regulations and ordinances.
Goggle natural burial services . It is more common than you think.
04/28/2023 08:50PM
analyzer: "The idea that a dead person takes up a plot of land, seems selfish to me. Within a few generations, no one cares anymore, but that deceased person is still taking up that space. If the space is never recycled, eventually the entire earth is taken up by grave sites.
As the population continues to grow, tillable land is going to become more scarce. Perhaps they could at least plant strawberries, or blueberries over the grave sites, or trees or something.
I hate the idea of being buried in something that will take a 100 years to biodegrade if ever. Cremate me and bury my ashes somewhere near my favorite bwca spot.
But my wife says she won't do that. She wants to be able to visit me, and doesn't want me that far away."
Here's an idea you might like.
Capsula Mundi
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"Life is not about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." --- George Bernard Shaw
04/29/2023 08:07AM
bobbernumber3: "Cremation emits a lot of harmful emissions... combustion gases, particulate matter, organic pollutants, and heavy metals. And possibly radioactive particles from cremation of deceased patients who have been treated with radioactive substances (e.g., cancer treatments).
Compost me, please. And I like the idea of strawberry plants!"
I can be buried on my land in Maine, so that's what I'm choosing. As Kermit said, "It's good to be green."
I will paddle eternal, Kevlar and carbon.
04/30/2023 12:00AM
Stumpy: "Any BW / Quetico things that you want to be buried or cremated with? Cheerfully speaking."
Memories. Experiences. Relationships. I believe I will be able to take those with me...
Hoping for many more trips with family, friends, or alone before I have to move on.
04/30/2023 08:15AM
mvillasuso: "Donate your organs first.
Have ‘em grind you up as chum.
And let ‘em take you fishing one last time!"
Woah…. That’s quite a visual there. Let’s use grandpa to catch that trophy walleye. “Pass some of that arm over here”. :)
"Life is not about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." --- George Bernard Shaw
04/30/2023 08:41AM
bobbernumber3: "I've recently changed my mind regarding cremation and want to have a green burial. No embalming fluids, no casket, no concrete vault, no cremation gases.
My generation hasn't done enough to ensure the future for following generations."
I know we really need to start thinking about what kind of world we plan to leave Willie Nelson and Keith Richards.
"Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me, can't get fooled again" - W
05/01/2023 03:02AM
Speckled: "bobbernumber3: "I've recently changed my mind regarding cremation and want to have a green burial. No embalming fluids, no casket, no concrete vault, no cremation gases.
My generation hasn't done enough to ensure the future for following generations."
I know we really need to start thinking about what kind of world we plan to leave Willie Nelson and Keith Richards."
LOL !
As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly
05/01/2023 05:47AM
nctry: "Well, seeing how we have one guy buried with his Harley here... I figure if I got buried in my canoe, you’d always know what direction the wind would blow."
True
As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly
05/01/2023 11:27AM
My daughter is a minister. We've talked about this, somewhat seriously, once. I asked her to cremate me and dump my ashes in my favorite lake. It has to be she and her brother using my canoe.... and no bickering. :)
My superhero name is TYPOMAN. Writer of wrongs.
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