Take a look at an Amok hammock.
So so comfortable. Its not you normal average hammock.
If you do spring or fall camping . Get the highest insulated air mattress .

https://amokequipment.com/products/draumr-5-0-hammock

https://youtu.be/0_3JaJALsq4?si=_tHYFxB1PZ5HTEt7

I have been really happy with mine.

Tryin: "I have been really happy with mine.



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Location, location, location.

I haven't had the opportunity to see one in person. I enjoy rocking in my gathered end warbonnet. Does the front/footbox hit the ground if you're not paying attention or you maybe just hang it out of reach?

I love the option to stick different r-rated pads in there. I imagine there's a learning curve with getting in and not ending up turtled on your back!

Mine won't hit the ground on either end, when hung at my preferred height. Ingress/egress is definitely a learned skill. Requires committing to entry once you begin. But, if my fat self can figure it out in two hangs, so can anyone else. Getting out is easier, just scoot down until the hammock stands you up.

Using different pads isn't as cool as it sounds, you are pretty limited in what will fit and be usable. Most will say just get the Amok pad(s). Whatever pad you use, it HAS to have longitudinal baffles.

It's got a learning curve and a couple limitations, but man, I love it. Lots of room, super flat lay, in-hammock storage, chair mode, etc make up for the vigorous entry. Back to that, a quilt is banger for this hammock. Getting into a regular bag can lead to a fun little see-saw action until you get used to how you balance while moving about. Again not hard for the agile, and if I can do it (6'3", 305lbs) you can too.

I tried one for a brief spell and just didn't like the entry/exit. It was comfortable, though, and I do imagine I'd have gotten used to it over time. Ended up selling it and getting a Warbonnet xlc instead, which fits my particular needs better.

I also tried one, and mostly liked it.

Sold it because it was just a hair too short - at 5'11" I needed the long version.

I could envision getting that one day...it's a quality product.

I would be worried about getting in wrong or moving the wrong way in my sleep and end up flipping the thing. I usually sleep on my side, if I curl up into the fetal position, is that going to shift my center of gravity enough to dump me on my head? If you tilt far enough that you slide at all, and sleeping pads can be slippery, you are probably going to fall all the way to that end.

Plus if that does happen, whether you hit the ground or not, I could see someone easily tearing the bug netting. Unless they have some mechanism to prevent this, I see this as an accident waiting to happen.

Looks nice, cool design, the one thing that I'm not sure about is the fly coverage, the YouTube video says to set it up with the foot of the hammock pointed into the wind and then drop the tarp down at that end. How do you know when you're setting up which direction big winds and horizontal rain might come from. Any of you users had an issue with that.

It's really hard to go over backwards. I'm a very active sleeper and have had no issues. Sitting cross legged in the dark can be tricky, but that's the only time I've grabbed the ridgeline. When you are laying down, you have to tilt so far off level to flip that you will be really uncomfortable before you pass the limit. If there is a tendency, it is to go forward, not back.

I have the standard fly and haven't had any problems with rain. I think a 12x12 would be better, but it's been a non-issue. And that includes a completely exposed pitch on the island site on Gaskin during a wind warning.

I do recommend replacing the stakes if you are going to be in windy conditions on the regular. I buy MSR groundhogs to replace the stakes on every shelter I own. Never had an issue with the Amok stakes, but I'm pretty gun shy after a bad winter storm experience in a dome tent.

I had one but found it sometimes challenging to get into and out of. I’d say that’s due to my lack of coordination and lack of height.

It was comfy once I was in, but it wasn’t right for me.

Good day all,

My son and I both got one a few years back and he will NEVER change again. I loved mine too, but at 66 years of age I have learned NEVER to say NEVER, lol. We are both side sleepers, the Amok accommodated us very well with this. The fly netting was not really any issue except a little hard to bend over and get to the zipper to close it up while in it. Just took getting used to. Same with "placement" in the Amok, scooting your butt up to the right place, readjusting it as the night goes on but not any more then (for me anyway) of waking up to adjust my sleeping bag while in a tent.

The foot box did touch the ground as I was getting out but not for my son. I may be too short or just not limber enough any more. I HIGHLY recommend the winter pad for all trips outside the middle summer. The fact that it slides inside a sleeve in the hammock also kept it in place. We never felt like we were going to go "heels over head" while in it. Getting out in the middle of the night to pee can be daunting but I could not see how I could use a pee bottle, others may be able.

We bought extra large tarps online and had plenty of space to store packs and such under cover. Pulled the front down low as we were facing the water/southwesternly.

All in all a great item!!

Mo63021: "Good day all,


My son and I both got one a few years back and he will NEVER change again. I loved mine too, but at 66 years of age I have learned NEVER to say NEVER, lol. We are both side sleepers, the Amok accommodated us very well with this. The fly netting was not really any issue except a little hard to bend over and get to the zipper to close it up while in it. Just took getting used to. Same with "placement" in the Amok, scooting your butt up to the right place, readjusting it as the night goes on but not any more then (for me anyway) of waking up to adjust my sleeping bag while in a tent.


The foot box did touch the ground as I was getting out but not for my son. I may be too short or just not limber enough any more. I HIGHLY recommend the winter pad for all trips outside the middle summer. The fact that it slides inside a sleeve in the hammock also kept it in place. We never felt like we were going to go "heels over head" while in it. Getting out in the middle of the night to pee can be daunting but I could not see how I could use a pee bottle, others may be able.


We bought extra large tarps online and had plenty of space to store packs and such under cover. Pulled the front down low as we were facing the water/southwesternly.


All in all a great item!! "

Mo63021
What size of tarp do you use with your Amok?
I purchased the hammock this winter without the tarp. I have a Cooke 10’x14’ tarp, will this work?
Carl

RedLakePaddler: "

Mo63021: "Good day all,



My son and I both got one a few years back and he will NEVER change again. I loved mine too, but at 66 years of age I have learned NEVER to say NEVER, lol. We are both side sleepers, the Amok accommodated us very well with this. The fly netting was not really any issue except a little hard to bend over and get to the zipper to close it up while in it. Just took getting used to. Same with "placement" in the Amok, scooting your butt up to the right place, readjusting it as the night goes on but not any more then (for me anyway) of waking up to adjust my sleeping bag while in a tent.



The foot box did touch the ground as I was getting out but not for my son. I may be too short or just not limber enough any more. I HIGHLY recommend the winter pad for all trips outside the middle summer. The fact that it slides inside a sleeve in the hammock also kept it in place. We never felt like we were going to go "heels over head" while in it. Getting out in the middle of the night to pee can be daunting but I could not see how I could use a pee bottle, others may be able.



We bought extra large tarps online and had plenty of space to store packs and such under cover. Pulled the front down low as we were facing the water/southwesternly.



All in all a great item!! "

Mo63021
What size of tarp do you use with your Amok?
I purchased the hammock this winter without the tarp. I have a Cooke 10’x14’ tarp, will this work?
Carl
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We purchased 2- 10ft X 12ft tarps so I would think your current tarp will work fine. The only question is a "rectangle" tarp may have to get creative with how it is hung over your hammock to provide the type of protection you want, wind vs rain. The reason being the shape of the hammock is "bat-wing" shaped not long and narrow. Here is what we purchased:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B088DL6NMT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1