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10/31/2023 08:18AM
I never did that, and always wondered why people did until a few years ago when I was camping with my daughter. It was pouring buckets in the morning when we had to pack up, and we and the inside of the tent got drenched as we were taking the tent down. If we'd had a tarp over the tent, we could have stayed dry, and kept the tent dry while packing it up, and only been exposed to the rain while taking down the tarp, which is a much quicker activity.
10/31/2023 09:04AM
RTurner: "I never did that, and always wondered why people did until a few years ago when I was camping with my daughter. It was pouring buckets in the morning when we had to pack up, and we and the inside of the tent got drenched as we were taking the tent down. If we'd had a tarp over the tent, we could have stayed dry, and kept the tent dry while packing it up, and only been exposed to the rain while taking down the tarp, which is a much quicker activity."
This is generally the calculation that I make when deciding whether to set up the tarp or not. Sometimes it's also a question of how fast (and early) that I want to get out of camp the next day as to whether the tarp goes up or stays in the pack.
"It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.”
10/31/2023 09:22AM
If raining in morning, I pack up stuff in tent, haul it under tarp and put it in packs, then I unstake tent and move it under tarp, and take it down there. Inside of tent stays dry...just have to deal with wet rainfly. Tent must be a freestanding type to do this. Helps to pack up semi dry when not using the tarp over tent technique.
"What could happen?"
10/31/2023 11:31AM
Depending on location, I either have the tarp over the firepit or my tent.
Firepit - nothing beats grilling first night steaks over a good fire while it is pouring buckets.
Tent - A lot of nights, especially hot muggy nights, I like just having a screen and not the rainfly on the tent. Having a tarp over the tent protects me just in case a rain event comes whistling through and I am not quick enough to roll out the fly.
"It is more important to live for the possibilities that lie ahead than to die in despair over what has been lost." -Barry Lopez
10/31/2023 04:09PM
This past Sept. I put a tarp over my tent because there was a strong posibility of damaging hail. I was not in the BWCAW, but at the Fall Lake Campground and I had a pretty good tarp in the truck. My reasoning was that the hail stones would at least be slowed down enough to not destroy the tent. Fortunately the hail did not materialize at Fall Lake, but I heard that it did not far away.
10/31/2023 10:50PM
FYI, a lot (maybe all) of the Tarptents are designed so you can pitch or strike them in the rain without getting the inside wet. The outside of the tent will be wet but just roll it up and the inside stays dry. The trick is that there is no separate rainfly that gets taken off before striking the body of the tent. It is all connected.
I've never put a tarp up over our tent. Usually we are with 2 or 3 couples and the tarp is more of a communal spot away from the individual tents.
But I can certainly see a tarp over a tent as pleasant to have a dry spot just outside of the tent and that it could keep a tent extra dry. So, maybe someday I'll try that.
I've never put a tarp up over our tent. Usually we are with 2 or 3 couples and the tarp is more of a communal spot away from the individual tents.
But I can certainly see a tarp over a tent as pleasant to have a dry spot just outside of the tent and that it could keep a tent extra dry. So, maybe someday I'll try that.
10/31/2023 11:40PM
I put a tarp over my tent on a solo trip because of a cramped campsite and bad weather on the way. Since I only have a 14x10 CCS tarp it was plenty big enough to leave the rainfly off of my tent. Couldn't see the stars but it was cool to see around camp. Now when I'm alone I do it most of the time. YMMV
In fact, the setup is one of the reasons I'm looking at a hammock system for next year. :)
In fact, the setup is one of the reasons I'm looking at a hammock system for next year. :)
11/01/2023 12:25PM
I like to keep the tent dry. I know it has a rain fly and it totally works, but the tarp keeps the tent dry, all my gear sits next to the tent, but under the tarp. The ground is dry when I wake in the morning. I've sat in the "front porch" and cooked breakfast many times.
I've never understood the tarp over the firegrate...how do you do it and not get little burn holes in it?
I've never understood the tarp over the firegrate...how do you do it and not get little burn holes in it?
"Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me, can't get fooled again" - W
11/02/2023 07:24PM
YetiJedi: "I put a tarp over my tent on a solo trip because of a cramped campsite and bad weather on the way. Since I only have a 14x10 CCS tarp it was plenty big enough to leave the rainfly off of my tent. Couldn't see the stars but it was cool to see around camp. Now when I'm alone I do it most of the time. YMMV
In fact, the setup is one of the reasons I'm looking at a hammock system for next year. :)"
Found this recent photo from a solo trip with the CCS tarp over my tent. Can't wait for spring!
11/03/2023 11:44AM
I put a tarp over my tent once. It was end of Sept/early October and rained. My tent was over 20 years old and I noticed the water not beading/running off as it traditionally did. I had never added any seam sealing or waterproofing so it looked like it was time. But I was already camping so I put the tarp above. Then we experienced more rain, sleet, hail and snow. So I was glad I did that. Redid seams and waterproofing once I got home.
Otherwise, I don’t - but it is nice to have a tarp set up very close, like a nice big porch.
Otherwise, I don’t - but it is nice to have a tarp set up very close, like a nice big porch.
"Enjoy every sandwich"
11/04/2023 12:06AM
I tend to take two tarps for car and canoe camping. One is a nice nylon tarp that often shelters the entrance to my tent and the area in front. I also take a smaller(8 by 8 or so) cheap plastic tarp, aka a “Menards blue tarp”. This one gets the rough duty like 6a spot to unload to keep the gear from getting muddy or sandy, a spot to sit down for lunch if it’s mucky, and, on occasion, it is set up near the fire. Not directly over it, but maybe the fire pit is along the edge of it, so we can sit under the tarp and tend the fire. At night, we store dry wood under it to start the morning fire. I’ve been gradually moving away from using fires, using camp stoves most of the time. However, after a couple days of rain, the tarp near the fire is also sheltering clothes drying lines, so it’s an essential risk management tool in my gearbox. The extra plastic tarp is cheap, a bit bulky and heavy, but can be a shower privacy booth, all the other things mentioned above, and after it’s too damaged to be reliable, I cut them up into smaller 18” squares to be sat on or used on the ground as a table for lunch on backpacking trips.
11/04/2023 08:04PM
I actually carry 4 tarps. One for the kitchen area and if rain is horrible I'll sneak it over the fire. Never had any issues so far. One is kept stored most of the time and I only have it along as a wind block. The other two go over our hammocks. I don't mind running lines as I don't move a the pace of the younger crowd.
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