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Boundary Waters Quetico Forum Gear Forum Fuel canisters vs hot truck |
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04/16/2023 01:29PM
Can I safely keep butane/propane canisters in a parked truck? In case of a fire ban, I want to have my canister stove and fuel available, but prefer not to take it. I'm concerned with how hot it can get in the cab or topper. Should I just stash it in the woods at the EP?
04/16/2023 03:00PM
A couple times I have left a single butane canister (full) in a cooler in a vehicle, but the vehicle was a color that doesn't get crazy hot. Both times were late summer and in a northern area.
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TZ
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04/16/2023 07:44PM
I'd definitely find a place to stash the canisters. I don't know the upper limits of the canisters but it is easy math to calculate the risk of losing a canister of fuel compared to the potential cost of repairing damage related to an exploded canister.
I have zero actual knowledge to apply to the problem but... you know, Murphy's Law and such.
Good Luck
I have zero actual knowledge to apply to the problem but... you know, Murphy's Law and such.
Good Luck
04/17/2023 09:12PM
Yes, a canister will explode in the truck if the ambient temperature exceeds the recommended range. It might not be a fireball, but the release of pressurized gas will blow out the car windows.
Instead of stashing them in the woods, you could put them under the vehicle.
"It is more important to live for the possibilities that lie ahead than to die in despair over what has been lost." -Barry Lopez
04/18/2023 07:49AM
Minnesotian: "It might not be a fireball, but the release of pressurized gas will blow out the car windows. "
I'd be amazed by this. But the release of pressurized gas, if ignited, would be a mess.
Store the canisters in the back of your truck.
04/18/2023 02:37PM
Blatz: "Does a fire ban mean no stoves?"
A fire ban means you can only use a gas stove with a shutoff valve. No fires, twig stoves, alcohol stoves, etc.
If you left the gas stove at home and a ban was instituted during your travels to the BW (some of us live far away), then you would not be prepared for the ban.
04/30/2023 06:13PM
a friends son had a few iso butane cans rolling around in the back window of his car for most of the summer. they were swollen but never ruptured.
i would take a can or 2 with me , just as a nice to have. you can boil coffee water on the trail or have it in case of a rain out. they weigh nothing and take up almost as much space.
i was cooking some noodles the other day , in the house. even at 50 degrees, it was tough to keep lit on a cold counter top. i dont ever burn full throttle, i crack it and light it and sure if the flame didnt snuff out , without adjusting the valve. the house was just at that sweet spot of almost to cold. it was a brand new sterno can.
i would take a can or 2 with me , just as a nice to have. you can boil coffee water on the trail or have it in case of a rain out. they weigh nothing and take up almost as much space.
i was cooking some noodles the other day , in the house. even at 50 degrees, it was tough to keep lit on a cold counter top. i dont ever burn full throttle, i crack it and light it and sure if the flame didnt snuff out , without adjusting the valve. the house was just at that sweet spot of almost to cold. it was a brand new sterno can.
05/01/2023 01:57PM
boonie:
If you left the gas stove at home and a ban was instituted during your travels to the BW (some of us live far away), then you would not be prepared for the ban. "
Also true if a fire ban is put in place during your trip and a ranger sees and notifies you. Whether that means carrying a gas stove as a backup depends on the length of your trip, the apparent likelihood of a ban when you enter, and your tolerance for risking not being able to cook.
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