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pescador
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10/09/2019 06:29AM
 
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bwcasolo
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10/09/2019 08:15AM
works for me!
 
SevenofNine
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10/09/2019 10:37AM
My buddy and I were up on the Apostle islands camping years ago. There was a hatch of flies and they were a nuisance. One thing I gleaned all those years ago was how much the flies liked the color yellow.
 
unshavenman
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10/09/2019 11:15AM

Happy happy happy!
 
brulu
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10/09/2019 11:26AM
Everyone has their preferences of course which is why different color options are nice when buying a new piece of gear. While yellow is a cheerful color to have around, I don't want my natural light filtered through it under a tarp or inside a tent. A light, neutral, semi-translucent grey (or maybe even white) is my preference for tents and tarps.

I have a Hilleberg tent with a yellow inner (all Hillebergs have a yellow inner tent, and they site the happiness factor as their reason). To me it feels plastic and artificial. I would rather have the natural character of the light on that particular day come through unaltered.

But like I said everyone has their own preferences, and I'm usually the oddball.
 
pescador
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10/09/2019 11:54AM
SevenofNine: "My buddy and I were up on the Apostle islands camping years ago. There was a hatch of flies and they were a nuisance. One thing I gleaned all those years ago was how much the flies liked the color yellow. "

Entomological sticky traps are usually yellow or blue.
I can only guess that the blue trap attracts the sadder bugs. ;~)
 
Flashback
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10/09/2019 11:59AM
It is my opinion that the color of a tarp is of little consequence when it comes to helping a person be a more or less happier person. I would classify any study made on that subject as "bubble gum science".

If you are the type of person that is "generally speaking" a happy person with a positive mental attitude, if you are doing things that you enjoy, and you are enjoying the companionship of people you like, while doing those things ...............the color of your/their tarp doesn't mean squat!

The tarp my wife and I use most often is a 6 panel, 3 colors (blue/yellow/red), special order that I had made by Cook Custom Covers. It makes me happy. The reason it makes me happy has nothing to do with the colors. It makes me happy because it is high quality, and it works as a sun shade or in the foulest(rain/snow/sleet) of weather. It has never failed to do so.

As far as the color yellow goes; I do NOT like yellow canoes at all, and am not that excited about green canoes either. Just a personal preference, and of little consequence in the grand scheme of things................
I do like Gordon Lightfoot's song, Yellow Canoe.
The canary yellow canoe in question(an Old Town) was donated to the Canadian Canoe Museum by Lightfoot.

BOB

P.S. A recent study that I did produced the following "bubble gum" results:
Persons who paddle red canoes are happier people, have more outgoing personalities, have better manners, and are better paddlers. Women who paddle red canoes are prettier, and men who paddle red canoes are more handsome. Red canoe paddlers most often arrive at the takeout faster than the majority of other paddlers, because red canoes are faster. Resell value of red canoes are higher than other colored canoes, and red canoes spend less time sitting on racks in garages/sheds, and more time actually being used.

And if you believe all that; I have a yellow canoe I'd like to sell to you!



 
RTurner
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10/09/2019 08:06PM
Flashback: "
As far as the color yellow goes; I do NOT like yellow canoes at all
"


But how do you feel about yellow submarines?
 
Flashback
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10/09/2019 08:15PM
One sentence will adequately cover my feelings about submarines of "any" color.

" I sincerely have the deepest respect & admiration for Navy submariners".

BOB
 
Minnesotian
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10/10/2019 08:35AM
Flashback: "It is my opinion that the color of a tarp is of little consequence when it comes to helping a person be a more or less happier person.
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Got any evidence to back that up, like say, a survey?

I mean, I get what you say in that when we read that the color yellow is considered a happy color, we all sit around and say "well, duh" or "who would find that out?" or "what is the point of knowing that."

But what you consider "bubble gum science" may be very important to anyone who works with color, like product designers, painters, graphic designers, artists, or tarp designers. This ongoing survey from the University of Lausanne may not affect you on a day to day basis, but when designing an advertising spread, knowing that yellow invokes a feeling of happiness may be very important if you are trying to sell something. In fact, in lighting design for stage theater, Broadway and Branson, color can affect the mood of a scene greatly. For example, here is a general list for colors lighting designers use: Source: Learn Stage Lighting
Red = Anger, Jealousy, Fear
Pink = Love, Light and Airy
Yellow = Poppy, Bright and Happy
Amber = Awakening, Rootsy and Raw
Green = Rootsy, Organic, Calming, Earthy
Aqua = Gentle, Simple, Water
Blue = Water, Night-time, Calm, Sullen
White = Open, Raw, Unfiltered

But here's the thing. How do we know what these colors make people feel if we don't ask them, like in a survey.
To quote from the National Science Foundation "Surveys are the scientific instrument of the social and behavioral sciences. Surveys collect information about people by asking them a structured set of questions and recording the answers. Because they reveal trends and patterns over time, the stored results of the surveys give scientists a record that grows more valuable with each addition."
Surveys give us a base set to understand the behavior of humans.

So, while I understand that it is easy to dismiss that yellow means happiness, and I agree with you that simply surrounding yourself with the color yellow won't make you happy if you aren't already predisposed toward happiness, I think to some extent the color of a tarp someone is sitting under for 8 hours a day in a pouring rain may subtly have an effect on them. Sitting under a darker tarp as opposed to a lighter colored tarp may make it feel like the day is gloomier and taking longer. The feeling you get from sitting in a room painted yellow or a room painted red can affect your mood.

But if the question about how color makes you feel isn't asked and the answers recorded then how can patterns and behaviors be understood and known.

Who cares if you use a straight shaft or a bent shaft paddle for canoeing, both will make you move the canoe, right?
 
AdamXChicago
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10/10/2019 11:28AM
Flashback: "It is my opinion that the color of a tarp is of little consequence when it comes to helping a person be a more or less happier person. I would classify any study made on that subject as "bubble gum science".


If you are the type of person that is "generally speaking" a happy person with a positive mental attitude, if you are doing things that you enjoy, and you are enjoying the companionship of people you like, while doing those things ...............the color of your/their tarp doesn't mean squat!


The tarp my wife and I use most often is a 6 panel, 3 colors (blue/yellow/red), special order that I had made by Cook Custom Covers. It makes me happy. The reason it makes me happy has nothing to do with the colors. It makes me happy because it is high quality, and it works as a sun shade or in the foulest(rain/snow/sleet) of weather. It has never failed to do so.


As far as the color yellow goes; I do NOT like yellow canoes at all, and am not that excited about green canoes either. Just a personal preference, and of little consequence in the grand scheme of things................
I do like Gordon Lightfoot's song, Yellow Canoe.
The canary yellow canoe in question(an Old Town) was donated to the Canadian Canoe Museum by Lightfoot.

BOB

P.S. A recent study that I did produced the following "bubble gum" results:
Persons who paddle red canoes are happier people, have more outgoing personalities, have better manners, and are better paddlers. Women who paddle red canoes are prettier, and men who paddle red canoes are more handsome. Red canoe paddlers most often arrive at the takeout faster than the majority of other paddlers, because red canoes are faster. Resell value of red canoes are higher than other colored canoes, and red canoes spend less time sitting on racks in garages/sheds, and more time actually being used.

And if you believe all that; I have a yellow canoe I'd like to sell to you!



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Horse feathers!
 
Pilgrimpaddler
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10/10/2019 11:30AM
Minnesotian: "Flashback: "It is my opinion that the color of a tarp is of little consequence when it comes to helping a person be a more or less happier person.
"



Got any evidence to back that up, like say, a survey?


I mean, I get what you say in that when we read that the color yellow is considered a happy color, we all sit around and say "well, duh" or "who would find that out?" or "what is the point of knowing that."


But what you consider "bubble gum science" may be very important to anyone who works with color, like product designers, painters, graphic designers, artists, or tarp designers. This ongoing survey from the University of Lausanne may not affect you on a day to day basis, but when designing an advertising spread, knowing that yellow invokes a feeling of happiness may be very important if you are trying to sell something. In fact, in lighting design for stage theater, Broadway and Branson, color can affect the mood of a scene greatly. For example, here is a general list for colors lighting designers use: Source: Learn Stage Lighting
Red = Anger, Jealousy, Fear
Pink = Love, Light and Airy
Yellow = Poppy, Bright and Happy
Amber = Awakening, Rootsy and Raw
Green = Rootsy, Organic, Calming, Earthy
Aqua = Gentle, Simple, Water
Blue = Water, Night-time, Calm, Sullen
White = Open, Raw, Unfiltered


But here's the thing. How do we know what these colors make people feel if we don't ask them, like in a survey.
To quote from the National Science Foundation "Surveys are the scientific instrument of the social and behavioral sciences. Surveys collect information about people by asking them a structured set of questions and recording the answers. Because they reveal trends and patterns over time, the stored results of the surveys give scientists a record that grows more valuable with each addition."
Surveys give us a base set to understand the behavior of humans.


So, while I understand that it is easy to dismiss that yellow means happiness, and I agree with you that simply surrounding yourself with the color yellow won't make you happy if you aren't already predisposed toward happiness, I think to some extent the color of a tarp someone is sitting under for 8 hours a day in a pouring rain may subtly have an effect on them. Sitting under a darker tarp as opposed to a lighter colored tarp may make it feel like the day is gloomier and taking longer. The feeling you get from sitting in a room painted yellow or a room painted red can affect your mood.


But if the question about how color makes you feel isn't asked and the answers recorded then how can patterns and behaviors be understood and known.


Who cares if you use a straight shaft or a bent shaft paddle for canoeing, both will make you move the canoe, right?
"


Careful there, that science can be dangerous stuff!
 
inspector13
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10/10/2019 12:28PM

Bubble gum is right. Soft, malleable, and loses the qualities of its purpose quite fast. Surveys and other types of anecdotal evidence can not only be misinterpreted with all sorts of biases and fallacies but can also contain biases. See link in OP. Besides, if red = Anger, Jealousy, Fear, why is it the primary color of choice for Santa Claus’s attire?

 
GearGuy
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10/11/2019 12:48PM
pescador: "SevenofNine: "My buddy and I were up on the Apostle islands camping years ago. There was a hatch of flies and they were a nuisance. One thing I gleaned all those years ago was how much the flies liked the color yellow. "


Entomological sticky traps are usually yellow or blue.
I can only guess that the blue trap attracts the sadder bugs. ;~)
"


I'm glad you said this. I have a yellow CCS, I soak it in permethrin, and every day there's a new layer of a thousand dead bugs on it, electric-free bug zapper!
 
10/11/2019 02:11PM
inspector13: "
Bubble gum is right. Soft, malleable, and loses the qualities of its purpose quite fast. Surveys and other types of anecdotal evidence can not only be misinterpreted with all sorts of biases and fallacies but can also contain biases. See link in OP. Besides, if red = Anger, Jealousy, Fear, why is it the primary color of choice for Santa Claus’s attire?

"

Do you know how many kids Santa has to deal with??!!!
 
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